


Ask the community...
I just went through this exact situation last month! The IRS will definitely send your verification letter to the address on your 2023 tax return (the one you filed February 3rd), not what's currently showing on their website. Their online portal can take 4-6 weeks to update after processing, so don't worry about the address mismatch you're seeing there. Since you filed over two months ago, your return should be fully processed and the letter will go to your filing address. I waited about 8 days for mine to arrive. If you need faster access, you could try the ID.me verification route through their website - it's instant and bypasses the mail entirely. Just make sure someone can check the mailbox at your filing address if you're not there regularly. The letter comes in a standard white Treasury envelope, so it's pretty easy to spot.
This is super reassuring to hear from someone who just went through it! I'm actually in almost the exact same timeline - filed early February and have been stressing about this address mismatch for weeks. Quick question: when you did the ID.me verification, did you need any specific documents or was your driver's license sufficient? I'm tempted to try that route since waiting for mail always makes me nervous. Also, did the Treasury envelope have any other markings that made it obvious it was the verification letter? I live in an apartment complex and sometimes mail gets mixed up, so I want to make sure I don't miss it. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear!
I dealt with this same issue about 6 months ago when I moved mid-tax season. The good news is that the IRS will send your verification letter to the address on your most recently filed return - so in your case, it should go to whatever address you used when you e-filed on February 3rd. The website showing your old address is totally normal; their online systems are notoriously slow to update and can lag behind their actual processing systems by weeks or even months. Since you filed over 2 months ago, your return should definitely be processed by now. I'd also suggest trying the ID.me verification option if you need immediate access - it's much faster than waiting for mail and doesn't depend on which address they have on file. The whole process took me about 20 minutes and I was able to access my account right away. Just make sure you have a current photo ID handy for the verification process.
Thanks for mentioning the ID.me option! I'm actually new to dealing with IRS issues and didn't even know that was a possibility. Is there any downside to using ID.me versus waiting for the mail? Like, does it create any complications with your account later or is it pretty much the same as using the mailed verification code? I'm leaning towards trying it since I'm getting anxious about the mail situation, but want to make sure I'm not creating more problems for myself down the road.
I just went through this exact same situation with my single-member LLC last month! After getting conflicting advice from multiple sources, I ended up scheduling a consultation with an Enrolled Agent who specializes in small business taxes. Here's what they confirmed for me: Since your SMLLC is a disregarded entity, you should use: Payer Name: Daniel Whitaker (your personal name) Payer TIN: Your LLC's EIN The reasoning is that as a disregarded entity, you're personally responsible for the tax obligations, but the EIN maintains the business connection for tracking purposes. This approach also aligns with how most business banking and payment processing systems work. One thing that really helped me was making sure this matches how I've been handling everything else - my business bank account, contractor payments, and previous tax filings all use the LLC's EIN. This creates consistency across all my business records, which my EA said is exactly what you want if you ever face an audit. The key is being consistent with whichever approach you choose. Since you mentioned you've been running the LLC for 2 years, make sure your 1099-NEC filing approach aligns with how you've been handling your Schedule C filings and business banking. That consistency will serve you well with the IRS!
This is really helpful, Kevin! I'm in a similar boat with my SMLLC and was getting overwhelmed by all the different advice out there. Your point about consistency across all business records makes total sense - I hadn't really thought about how important it would be to have everything align if there's ever an audit. Quick question: when you say "previous tax filings," are you referring to how you report the business income on your personal Schedule C? I want to make sure I understand how the EIN usage on 1099-NECs should connect to my personal tax return filing.
I had this exact same confusion when I first started filing 1099-NECs for my SMLLC! After going through multiple sources and even calling the IRS, here's what I learned: For a single-member LLC that's a disregarded entity, you should use: **Payer Name:** Daniel Whitaker (your personal name) **Payer TIN:** Your LLC's EIN The logic is straightforward: since your SMLLC is disregarded for federal tax purposes, YOU are the taxpayer making these payments. However, you still use the LLC's EIN because that's the business identifier tied to your contractor payments and business operations. This approach maintains consistency with how your business banking and payments have been structured while properly reflecting your tax status as a disregarded entity owner. One critical tip: make sure this aligns with how you've been handling your Schedule C filings. When you report your business income and expenses (including these contractor payments) on Schedule C, everything should tie together cleanly. The most important thing is consistency across all your filings. Whatever approach you choose, stick with it to avoid creating red flags during any potential IRS review. Given that you've been operating for 2 years, you want your 1099-NEC approach to match your established business practices and previous tax filings.
This is exactly the clarity I needed! I've been spinning my wheels on this for weeks. Your explanation about using personal name + LLC EIN makes perfect sense, especially the point about maintaining consistency with Schedule C filings. I'm relieved to finally have a clear answer that aligns with multiple sources in this thread. Thanks for breaking down the logic so clearly - it really helps to understand WHY this approach works rather than just being told what to do.
I'm going through exactly the same issue right now! My tax code just changed from 1275L to 1104L without any explanation, and I was really worried about what it meant until I found this incredibly helpful discussion. After reading through everyone's experiences, I'm planning to check my Personal Tax Account first thing tomorrow using the "View your tax code calculation" section that so many people have recommended. I think it might be related to a company laptop that I use for both work and personal use, or possibly a small training allowance I receive quarterly - I never realized these kinds of benefits could affect tax codes! The timing pattern everyone's mentioned is really interesting - it definitely seems like HMRC is doing more comprehensive reviews of employee benefits recently. While it's frustrating to have these unexpected changes, it's incredibly reassuring to see from all these comments that there's usually a logical explanation once you understand what's happening. This thread has been more helpful than hours of searching through HMRC's official guidance! Thank you to everyone who's shared their experiences and solutions - you've given me the confidence to tackle this systematically rather than just panicking about the change. The advice about checking online first before attempting those dreaded phone calls is definitely the way to go!
I'm in exactly the same boat! My tax code just dropped from 1275L to 1102L last week and I was completely clueless about what triggered it. Reading through this entire thread has been such a relief - it's amazing how many different workplace benefits can cause these changes that we never think about! Your mention of the company laptop is really interesting because I have a similar setup where I use my work laptop for some personal stuff too. I never considered that could be treated as a taxable benefit! I also have a small professional development allowance that comes through quarterly - it's only about £100 each time but over the year that adds up. The systematic review theory really makes sense given how many people are experiencing these changes around the same time. It's almost like HMRC has suddenly gotten much better at tracking down all these small benefits that might have slipped through the cracks before. I'm definitely following everyone's advice about checking the Personal Tax Account breakdown first - the horror stories about 90+ minute phone waits are enough to put anyone off! This whole discussion has been incredibly reassuring and educational. Thanks for adding your experience to what's become such a valuable resource for all of us dealing with these confusing changes!
I'm dealing with a very similar situation - my tax code just changed from 1275L to 1126L and I was completely confused until I found this thread! Reading through everyone's experiences has been incredibly enlightening and reassuring. Like many others here, I had no idea that so many workplace benefits could trigger these tax code changes. I'm now wondering if it might be related to a small car allowance I receive monthly (about £80) or possibly the annual eye test vouchers my company provides. It's amazing how these seemingly minor perks can add up to significant adjustments in your personal allowance over the course of a year. The pattern of recent changes that multiple people have mentioned definitely suggests HMRC is conducting more systematic reviews of employee benefits. It's both frustrating and somewhat comforting to know this appears to be happening across many companies rather than being something specific to individual circumstances. I'm absolutely going to check my Personal Tax Account using the "View your tax code calculation" section that everyone's recommended before even considering calling HMRC. After reading about those 90+ minute wait times, the online approach sounds infinitely more appealing! This community discussion has been far more helpful than any official guidance I could find. Thank you to everyone who's shared their specific situations and solutions - it's given me confidence to approach this methodically rather than just worrying about the change. For anyone else in a similar boat, it's clear that starting with the online account breakdown is definitely the way to go!
Your car allowance is very likely the culprit behind your tax code change! I had a similar experience with a monthly travel allowance that suddenly appeared on my tax code calculation after being overlooked for months. £80 per month adds up to £960 annually, which would definitely explain a significant portion of your personal allowance reduction. What I found really helpful when I checked my Personal Tax Account was that it not only showed which benefits they'd included, but also broke down exactly how they calculated the annual value. In some cases, HMRC actually overestimates these allowances because they assume they're fixed monthly payments rather than variable amounts based on actual usage. The eye test vouchers are another good catch - even small annual benefits like that can contribute to the overall adjustment. It's incredible how these workplace perks that seem so minor individually can really add up when HMRC calculates them over a full tax year! I definitely agree about checking the online account first. The breakdown there is usually comprehensive enough to answer most questions without having to endure those awful phone queues. Hope you get clarity on your situation quickly!
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - when you transfer your IRA to another broker, make sure you request a DIRECT TRANSFER rather than taking a distribution and redepositing it yourself. With a direct transfer, the money goes straight from one custodian to another without passing through your hands, so there's no tax impact and no reporting requirement. If you withdraw the money yourself, even if you redeposit within 60 days, it gets reported to the IRS as a distribution and recontribution, creating unnecessary paperwork and potential for error. Most brokers make the direct transfer process pretty easy - usually just a form from the receiving broker.
Does the same apply for Roth IRAs too? I'm planning to move both my traditional and Roth to a different broker next month.
Yes, absolutely the same applies for Roth IRAs. Always do a direct transfer rather than taking possession of the funds yourself. The process is essentially identical - the receiving broker will usually have a form for you to complete that authorizes them to request the transfer from your current broker. One additional tip for Roth IRAs - while the basis tracking isn't as critical for tax purposes at withdrawal (since qualified withdrawals are tax-free), you still want to make sure your contribution history transfers correctly, especially for tracking the 5-year rules that apply to Roth accounts. Some brokers are better than others at maintaining this history during transfers.
Great question! I went through a similar transfer from Schwab to E*TRADE last year and was worried about the same thing. The good news is that for traditional IRAs with only deductible contributions, you don't need to track cost basis since all withdrawals will be taxed as ordinary income regardless. However, I'd strongly recommend creating your own records anyway - it's been incredibly helpful for me to have a clear history of all contributions, especially when dealing with any rollover from old 401(k)s. Keep track of contribution dates, amounts, and whether they were deductible or non-deductible (you'd know about non-deductible ones because you would have filed Form 8606). When you do the transfer, make sure it's a direct trustee-to-trustee transfer so the money never touches your hands - this avoids any tax reporting complications. Most brokers handle this smoothly, but having your own backup records gives you peace of mind for when you start taking distributions in 15 years.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the Form 8606 you mentioned - is there any way to go back and file it for previous years if I realize I made non-deductible contributions but didn't file the form at the time? I'm starting to worry that I might have missed filing this in a couple of years when my income was right at the deduction limit.
Eduardo Silva
I've been in almost exactly your situation! Started my small farm operation two years ago while working full-time, and the tax implications were definitely confusing at first. Here's what I learned that might help: You can absolutely claim startup expenses even without revenue, but the IRS will look closely at whether you're operating with genuine profit intent versus just having an expensive hobby. The good news is that agriculture gets more favorable treatment than most other businesses because the IRS recognizes farms typically take several years to become profitable. For your $17,500 tractor, Section 179 expensing could be a game-changer. Since you have W-2 income from your regular job, you might be able to deduct the entire purchase price this year rather than depreciating it over 5-7 years. This can significantly reduce your overall tax burden. The most important thing is documentation. Start keeping detailed records now: separate business bank account, written business plan (doesn't need to be fancy), photos of property improvements, and logs of time spent on farm activities. I also recommend starting a farm journal documenting daily activities, learning experiences, and business decisions - this really helps demonstrate legitimate business intent. Don't worry about the "hobby farm" classification if you're genuinely working toward profitability. The fact that you're systematically preparing infrastructure and gaining livestock experience shows real business purpose. Just make sure you can prove it through your record-keeping and business-like approach to the operation.
0 coins
Ava Martinez
ā¢This is really reassuring to hear from someone who's been through the exact same situation! I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with claiming these startup expenses. One thing I'm curious about - when you started your farm journal, did you go back and try to reconstruct activities from before you started keeping it, or did you just begin from that point forward? I've been working on my property for about 8 months now but haven't been documenting daily activities beyond basic expense tracking. Also, for the business plan, how detailed did you make yours? I'm wondering if I should include things like market research on local egg/goat product demand, or if a simpler outline of my goals and timeline would be sufficient for IRS purposes. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's incredibly helpful to know that others have successfully navigated this transition from startup phase to legitimate farm business!
0 coins
Ethan Wilson
ā¢Don't worry about reconstructing past activities in detail - just start your farm journal from now and maybe add a summary entry covering the major work you've done in those 8 months (like "January-August: Cleared 3 acres of overgrown area, repaired barn roof, installed 500ft of fencing, purchased initial livestock"). The IRS cares more about consistent documentation going forward than having every single day accounted for retroactively. For the business plan, keep it practical rather than overly complex. Include your basic goals (target products, timeline to first sales, projected growth), simple financial projections showing when you expect to become profitable, and your marketing approach (even if it's just "local farmers markets and direct sales"). Market research can be as simple as noting prices at local farmers markets or what similar operations in your area are doing. The key is showing you've thought through this as a real business venture, not creating an MBA-level document. A 2-3 page plan covering your vision, timeline, and basic financial expectations will be more than sufficient for IRS purposes. What matters most is that it demonstrates genuine intent to operate profitably rather than just enjoying farm life as an expensive hobby.
0 coins
Melody Miles
I'm in a very similar situation and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I started my small farm operation about 6 months ago on 12 acres, also while working my regular full-time job. Like you, I'm still in the heavy startup phase - clearing land, building infrastructure, and learning with a few starter animals. One thing that really helped me was getting clear on the difference between startup costs and ongoing operating expenses. Items like your tractor, fencing materials, and building repairs are generally considered capital investments that you'll depreciate or expense under Section 179. But don't forget about the smaller ongoing expenses that are immediately deductible - things like feed, veterinary care, fuel, small tools, educational materials, and even mileage for farm-related trips to the feed store. I'd also recommend looking into your state's beginning farmer programs. Many states offer tax incentives, reduced-rate loans, or other benefits specifically for new agricultural operations. In my state, I qualified for a property tax reduction just by filing an agricultural use application, even though I'm not selling anything yet. The consensus here about documentation is absolutely right. I started photographing all my property improvements and major purchases, and keeping a simple weekly log of farm activities. It takes just a few minutes but creates a clear paper trail showing this is a legitimate business venture, not a hobby. Good luck with your farm startup!
0 coins