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Just to add another perspective here - I'm a tax professional who works with a lot of LLCs making S-Corp elections. The advice about skipping Form 8832 is correct for your situation. An LLC with multiple members defaults to partnership taxation, and Form 2553 effectively changes that classification directly to S-Corporation. However, I want to emphasize timing is crucial. If you've already missed the 2 months and 15 days deadline for this year, don't panic. You have two options: file for late election relief (which requires demonstrating reasonable cause) or make the election effective for next year by filing before December 31st. One thing I often see new S-Corp elections miss is ensuring all members sign the consent statement on Form 2553. Make sure everyone who has any ownership interest signs, even if they joined after formation. Also, be very careful about the tax year selection - many people accidentally select the wrong effective date. The reasonable compensation issue mentioned earlier is real and important. Plan to pay yourself at least what you'd pay an unrelated employee to do your job. Document your reasoning and keep records of comparable salaries in your industry and location.
This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! As someone new to this whole process, I really appreciate the professional perspective. One question - when you mention filing for next year by December 31st, does that mean we could file Form 2553 in November or December of this year to be effective for the 2025 tax year? Also, regarding the reasonable compensation documentation, do you recommend any specific resources for researching comparable salaries? I want to make sure we're being thorough from the start rather than scrambling later if we get audited.
Yes, exactly! You can file Form 2553 anytime during 2024 to make it effective for the 2025 tax year. Just make sure to clearly indicate on the form that you want the election to be effective beginning January 1, 2025. For salary research, I typically recommend using multiple sources: Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS.gov) for occupational employment statistics, PayScale, Glassdoor, and industry-specific salary surveys. Robert Half and other staffing agencies also publish annual salary guides that are well-regarded by the IRS. The key is to document that you looked at multiple sources and can justify your compensation based on factors like experience, education, geographic location, and company size. Also keep records of job postings for similar positions in your area - screenshot them and save the URLs. If you ever face an audit, having this documentation package ready shows you made a good faith effort to determine reasonable compensation.
I went through this exact same process with my consulting LLC last year and wanted to share what worked for me. The advice about skipping Form 8832 and going directly to Form 2553 is spot on - that's exactly what we did. One thing I'd add is to be really careful about the effective date you choose on Form 2553. We initially made the mistake of selecting the wrong tax year and had to file an amended election. Also, make sure you have your EIN ready before filing - you can't complete the form without it. Since you mentioned starting in March, you're likely looking at making the election effective for 2025 now. The good news is this actually gives you time to plan for the payroll requirements that come with S-Corp status. You'll need to set up payroll processing and understand the quarterly employment tax obligations before the election becomes effective. Don't underestimate the administrative burden that comes with S-Corp elections - quarterly payroll taxes, annual W-2s for yourself, and more complex bookkeeping. But the self-employment tax savings can definitely make it worthwhile if your business income is substantial enough.
This is really valuable insight, especially about the administrative complexity that comes with S-Corp status. I hadn't fully considered the quarterly payroll obligations and additional bookkeeping requirements. Could you share what payroll service you ended up using? I'm trying to weigh whether to handle this in-house or outsource it from the start. Also, when you mention "substantial enough" income to make the self-employment tax savings worthwhile, is there a rough threshold where it typically makes sense? I want to make sure we're not creating unnecessary complexity for minimal tax benefit. The point about having time to plan since we're looking at 2025 effectiveness is reassuring - gives us a chance to get our systems in place properly.
@c242593d9e42 I'd be curious to hear about your payroll service recommendation too. We're in a similar boat trying to decide between QuickBooks Payroll, Gusto, or just having our CPA handle it all. From what I've researched, the general rule of thumb seems to be that S-Corp election makes sense when your net business income is around $60K+ annually, since that's roughly where the self-employment tax savings start to outweigh the additional payroll costs and complexity. But I'd love to hear real-world experience on this threshold. Also, did you run into any issues with state-level requirements? I know some states don't automatically recognize federal S-Corp elections and require separate filings.
Has anyone tried handling this by separating the transactions? Like paying for business travel with cash, then reimbursing yourself personally with miles for other trips? Seems like that might solve the problem.
That approach could work! Business expenses paid with cash = legitimate deduction. Then using your points for personal travel is just a personal transaction the IRS doesn't care about.
I dealt with this exact situation when I started my consulting business! The key thing to understand is that the IRS looks at actual cash outflow, not the "value" of rewards used. Here's what I learned from my tax attorney: When you use personal miles/points for business travel, you can't deduct anything because there's no actual business expense - you're essentially using a personal asset (the miles) that you already "paid for" through past personal spending. However, don't forget about the ancillary costs! If your husband paid any booking fees, taxes, or upgrade costs when redeeming those miles, those actual cash payments can be deducted as legitimate business expenses. For future planning, consider doing what Mateo suggested - pay cash for business travel (fully deductible) and save your personal miles for vacations. This maximizes your tax benefits while keeping everything clean and audit-proof. Also keep detailed records showing the business purpose of any travel, regardless of how you paid for it. The IRS will want to see that it was genuinely business-related.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm just starting to navigate business taxes myself and the distinction between actual cash outflow vs. using rewards makes total sense now. One follow-up question - when you say "ancillary costs," does that include things like seat selection fees or baggage fees that might get charged even when using miles? I'm trying to understand exactly what counts as a legitimate cash expense in these situations. Also, do you happen to know if there are any special record-keeping requirements for documenting that the travel was business-related when you use alternative payment methods like miles?
Has anyone else had their earned income credit amount change when they amended their tax return? I originally filed with just my W-2 income but then realized I needed to add my DoorDash earnings from last year, and it actually increased my EIC.
Just wanted to add that you should definitely keep good records of all your gig work expenses throughout the year! Things like phone bills (portion used for work), insulated bags for food delivery, and of course your mileage can all be deducted. Since you're getting the earned income credit, you want to make sure you're not missing out on legitimate deductions that could save you even more money. I use a simple spreadsheet to track everything monthly - makes tax time so much easier. Also, don't forget that as a student, you might qualify for education credits too if you paid tuition or had other qualifying education expenses!
Just wanted to add something that might help with your planning - since you're dealing with such a large carryforward amount, you might want to consider the timing of future equipment purchases carefully. We were in a similar situation two years ago and learned that you can actually elect OUT of Section 179 for specific assets in future years if it makes sense strategically. This way, if you have a lower equipment purchase year coming up, you could use your carryforward on those purchases while taking regular depreciation on any new equipment. Also, keep in mind that the Section 179 limits increase periodically for inflation adjustments. The $1,080,000 limit and $2,700,000 phase-out threshold you mentioned will likely be higher in future years, which could help you utilize more of that carryforward sooner than you think. One more thing - make sure you're tracking the carryforward amount properly on your books. We had to reconstruct our records when we realized we weren't maintaining the detailed asset-by-asset carryforward tracking that made year-end tax prep much more complicated than it needed to be.
This is really helpful advice about electing out of Section 179 for strategic purposes! I hadn't realized that was even an option. Can you clarify - when you elect out for specific assets, does that mean you're essentially choosing regular MACRS depreciation for those items instead? And is this something you decide asset-by-asset or do you have to make the election for your entire tax year? Also, your point about the inflation adjustments is encouraging. Do you happen to know how often they typically adjust these limits? It would be great to factor potential limit increases into our multi-year planning.
This is such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who went through a similar situation with heavy equipment purchases last year, I wanted to share a few additional considerations that helped us navigate the carryforward complexity. First, don't overlook the business income limitation aspect - even if you get past the investment threshold in future years, your Section 179 deduction (including carryforwards) is still limited to your taxable business income. We found that planning around this limitation was just as important as tracking the investment ceiling. Second, consider the interplay with state taxes early in your planning. Some states conform to federal Section 179 rules, others don't, and some have their own unique limitations. This can create some interesting planning opportunities if your state has different rules. Finally, one thing that really helped us was creating a multi-year equipment purchase forecast. Since Section 179 carryforwards don't expire, we mapped out our expected equipment needs for the next 3-5 years and modeled different scenarios for when we could actually utilize the carryforward. This helped us make better decisions about financing timing and whether to accelerate or defer certain purchases. The good news is you haven't lost the deduction - it's just a matter of strategic timing to maximize its benefit!
This is excellent strategic advice! The business income limitation is something I've been worried about but hadn't fully factored into our planning yet. We had a strong year income-wise, but with the economic uncertainty, I'm not sure if we'll maintain the same level of taxable income to actually utilize the carryforward even when we get under the investment threshold. Your idea about creating a multi-year equipment forecast is brilliant - I'm definitely going to work on that. We're in a growth phase so our equipment needs are somewhat predictable, and it would be really helpful to see different scenarios mapped out over the next few years. Quick question on the state tax piece - we're in Texas, so no state income tax to worry about there. But for others reading this, how do you typically find out about your specific state's conformity rules? Is there a good resource, or do you just have to dig through each state's tax code? Thanks for the comprehensive insights - this whole thread has been incredibly helpful for thinking through all the moving pieces!
Oliver Schulz
This is such a relief to read! I'm currently in week 3 of the 570/971 waiting game (filed Feb 15th, codes appeared March 1st and March 3rd respectively) and was starting to panic that something was seriously wrong with my return. Seeing your timeline and everyone else's experiences gives me hope that this might resolve itself soon without me having to call and wait on hold for hours. The way you described it as "tax jail" made me laugh - that's exactly how it feels! I've been obsessively checking my transcript twice daily like it's going to magically change between morning and afternoon. Thanks for sharing your success story and giving the rest of us stuck in processing limbo some much-needed optimism! š¤
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Mateusius Townsend
ā¢I'm so glad to see I'm not the only one going through this exact situation! I filed on February 20th and got my 570 code on March 5th, then the 971 appeared on March 7th. I've been checking my transcript obsessively too - sometimes even at 3am when I can't sleep because I'm worried about it! š Reading everyone's experiences here is honestly the first time I've felt hopeful in days. The "tax jail" description is perfect - that's exactly what this feels like. Fingers crossed we both see those magical 571 codes soon!
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Ezra Beard
This gives me so much hope! I'm currently on day 16 of my own 570/971 journey - filed January 30th, got the 570 on February 18th and 971 on February 25th. I've been checking my transcript religiously and starting to worry that maybe my situation is different from everyone else's. What really resonates with me is your description of checking the mailbox religiously for a notice that never comes - I've been doing the exact same thing! My mail carrier probably thinks I'm stalking them at this point š The "tax jail" and "processing purgatory" descriptions are spot on. It's wild how the IRS can just freeze your refund without any real explanation and then magically release it weeks later. Thanks for sharing your timeline - it helps to know that even after 3+ weeks, things can still resolve on their own. Hoping to join the "571 club" very soon!
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