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One thing I'd be concerned about is potential issues with other family members. When my grandfather passed, we found cash hidden in his home and it caused a HUGE family fight even though it wasn't nearly as much as you're talking about. If there's no documentation stating it was meant specifically for you, other family members might feel entitled to a portion, especially when it's such a large amount. Have you discussed this with your parents or siblings? It might be worth having those conversations before making any deposits, just to keep family relationships intact.
This is such an important point. My family literally stopped speaking to each other for years over a similar situation with my grandmother's jewelry. Even though she told me verbally certain pieces were for me, without it in writing, it became a nightmare.
This is a complex situation that requires careful handling. First, I'd strongly recommend consulting with both a tax professional and an estate attorney before making any deposits. Here's why: The timing is crucial - since your grandfather passed 8 years ago, there may be statute of limitations issues that could work in your favor, but you need professional guidance to understand the implications. For the bank deposit, you're absolutely right that they'll file a CTR for amounts over $10k, but this isn't inherently problematic if you can document the source. I'd suggest preparing a written statement explaining: - When and where you found the money - Your grandfather's background (the Colombian business sale) - Any witnesses to his verbal statements about leaving you his "special savings" Consider having a family meeting before proceeding. Even if your grandfather verbally indicated this was for you, other family members may have legitimate concerns about such a large undisclosed asset from the estate. The IRS will likely have questions about why this money is surfacing now, but being proactive and transparent will help. A tax professional can help you prepare the proper documentation and determine if any estate tax issues need to be addressed. Don't rush this process - taking time to handle it properly will save you potential headaches later.
This is really solid advice. I'm curious though - when you mention "statute of limitations issues that could work in your favor," what exactly does that mean? Are you saying that after a certain number of years, the IRS can't come after you for taxes that should have been paid on the estate? And if so, would that apply to this situation since the money was essentially "hidden" and not part of the original estate filing?
I'm so glad I found this thread! I was having a complete meltdown thinking I'd somehow failed to pay my property taxes even though I've been religiously making my mortgage payments with escrow all year. Reading everyone's experiences has been incredibly reassuring. After following the advice here, I checked my county's property tax website and confirmed that zero payments were received in 2023 for my property. Then I dug into my mortgage account and found the escrow analysis section - turns out they collected $3,847 throughout the year but won't actually pay the county until January 28, 2024. What's been most helpful is understanding that this timing mismatch is completely normal and I'm not losing my deduction - it's just shifting to next year's tax return when the payment is actually made. I wish mortgage companies were more transparent about how escrow disbursement schedules work versus the tax calendar year. For anyone else dealing with this, the county property tax website really is the fastest way to get clarity. Most have a simple payment history lookup where you can see exactly what (if anything) was paid and when. That plus your mortgage escrow analysis will tell you the whole story. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - you've saved me from hours of unnecessary stress and phone calls!
I'm so relieved to find others going through the exact same thing! I was literally losing sleep over this, convinced I'd somehow screwed up my property taxes despite making every mortgage payment on time. Just checked my county's website following everyone's advice - zero payments in 2023, just like so many others here. Found my escrow analysis buried in my mortgage account dashboard and it shows they'll disburse in February 2024. It's honestly mind-boggling that this timing issue isn't better explained when you sign up for escrow. The most reassuring part has been learning that the deduction isn't lost, just delayed. As a first-time homeowner, I had no idea this was normal! Thank you to everyone who took the time to explain their situations - this thread should be required reading for anyone with an escrow account. Going to bookmark this discussion in case I need to reference it again next year. You've all been lifesavers!
I'm going through the exact same situation right now! Just received my 1098 and was shocked to see absolutely nothing listed for property taxes despite faithfully paying into escrow all year through my mortgage company. Reading through all these experiences has been incredibly eye-opening - I had no idea this timing mismatch between escrow collection and actual disbursement was so common. Like many others here, I was starting to panic thinking I'd somehow missed paying my property taxes or made some terrible mistake. Following the advice in this thread, I immediately checked my county's property tax website and confirmed zero payments were received in 2023 for my property. Then I found my mortgage account's escrow analysis section (buried pretty deep in the online portal) and discovered they collected about $4,100 throughout 2023 but won't actually pay the county until February 15, 2024. It's honestly frustrating that mortgage companies don't clearly explain this when you set up escrow. They make it sound like everything is handled seamlessly, but they don't mention that the collection and payment schedules often don't align with the tax calendar year. Would have saved me (and clearly many others) a lot of unnecessary stress! The biggest relief has been learning that this doesn't mean losing the deduction - it just shifts to next year's 1098 when the payment is actually made. As a first-time homeowner, I really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their experiences and solutions. This thread has been incredibly valuable!
Welcome to the "confused about property taxes not showing on 1098" club! Your experience sounds exactly like what so many of us have gone through. It's honestly shocking how common this timing issue is, yet mortgage companies do such a poor job explaining it upfront. I'm glad you found the escrow analysis section in your mortgage portal - that really seems to be the key piece of information that clarifies everything. February 15th disbursement makes total sense for why nothing showed up on your 2023 1098. As a fellow first-time homeowner, I totally understand the panic! I spent a whole weekend convinced I'd somehow ruined my taxes before finding this thread. The good news is you're definitely not alone, and you haven't made any mistakes - this is just how the system works (unfortunately). One thing that might help going forward: now that you know your mortgage company's disbursement schedule, you can plan ahead for next year's taxes knowing roughly when to expect the property tax deduction to actually appear. It takes some of the guesswork out of tax planning!
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the timing of when you need to file these forms. Since your husband received the inheritance in March 2024, you'll need to report the foreign account on your 2024 FBAR (due April 15, 2025, with automatic extension to October 15, 2025). Also, be aware that even though the inheritance itself doesn't require Form 3520, if that Chilean account generates more than $10 in interest during 2024, you'll need to report that interest income on your 2024 tax return. The interest is taxable to the US even if it stays in the Chilean account. If you're unsure about any of the requirements, consider consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international tax issues. The penalties for not filing FBAR or incorrectly reporting foreign income can be substantial, so it's worth getting it right the first time. Better to spend a few hundred on professional advice than face potential penalties later.
This is really helpful timing information! I'm new to dealing with foreign accounts and had no idea about the FBAR automatic extension to October. That gives us some breathing room if we can't get everything together by April 15th. Quick question - you mentioned that interest over $10 needs to be reported. Is that $10 total for the year, or $10 per transaction? The account has been earning a small amount of interest each month, probably around $15-20 total for the year so far. Want to make sure I understand the threshold correctly. Also, does anyone have recommendations for finding a tax professional who specializes in international issues? My regular CPA admitted they don't handle much foreign account reporting and suggested I find someone with more experience in this area.
@Ethan Brown The $10 threshold is total for the year, not per transaction. So if your account earned $15-20 total in interest for 2024, you ll'need to report that on your tax return. Even small amounts of foreign interest income are taxable in the US. For finding an international tax specialist, I d'recommend checking with your state CPA society - they often have referral services where you can search by specialty. The American Institute of CPAs AICPA (also) has a directory where you can filter for international tax expertise. Look for someone who specifically mentions FBAR, Form 8938, and international compliance experience. You can also search for Enrolled "Agents EAs" (who) specialize in international tax - they re'federally licensed tax practitioners and often have deep IRS knowledge. Many EAs focus specifically on the complex international reporting requirements since regular CPAs sometimes avoid this area due to its complexity.
One additional point to consider - since your husband is a dual citizen and the inheritance came from his Chilean mother, you should also verify whether there are any ongoing Chilean tax obligations related to maintaining that bank account. Some countries require annual declarations of foreign-held assets by their citizens, even if they live abroad. Also, if you decide to eventually transfer that money to a US account, be prepared for additional reporting requirements. Large international wire transfers ($10,000+) trigger Currency Transaction Reports (CTRs) at US banks, and you'll want to have all your inheritance documentation ready to explain the source of funds to avoid any suspicious activity reports. Consider setting up a simple tracking system now for any transactions in that account - deposits, withdrawals, interest payments, fees, etc. This will make next year's tax preparation much smoother and ensure you don't miss reporting any taxable events. A basic spreadsheet with dates, amounts, and exchange rates used will save you hours later.
This is really comprehensive advice! I hadn't thought about the potential reporting requirements when we eventually move the money to a US account. We were planning to transfer most of it later this year to help with a down payment on a house. The point about Chilean tax obligations is especially important - I should probably contact a Chilean tax advisor to make sure we're compliant on both sides. Does anyone know if dual citizens typically need to file annual tax returns in both countries, or does it depend on income/residency status? Also, @Kiara Greene, when you mention setting up a tracking system - should I be tracking the USD equivalent of all transactions, or keep it in Chilean pesos and convert at the end of the year? I want to make sure I'm doing the exchange rate calculations correctly from the start.
This is exactly the kind of detailed breakdown I was looking for! Thank you @Kingston Bellamy for the specific thresholds. Based on what you've shared, it sounds like I really only need to worry about Louisiana and New Mexico from my list, and even then the enforcement risk seems minimal for such small amounts. I think I'm going to take the practical approach and file in Louisiana and New Mexico just to be safe (since they seem to be the most strict), but skip Ohio, Oklahoma, and Pennsylvania since I'm clearly below their thresholds. One follow-up question - do you know if these state thresholds get updated regularly? I want to make sure I'm working with current information before making my final decision.
Great question about threshold updates! State filing thresholds can change annually, though they don't always do so. Most states announce changes as part of their annual tax law updates, usually published between December and February for the following tax year. For the most current information, I'd recommend checking each state's Department of Revenue website directly, as they typically post current year filing requirements in their nonresident tax guides. You can also look at the state-specific instructions that come with popular tax software - they're usually updated with the latest thresholds. That said, the thresholds @Kingston Bellamy mentioned align with what I've seen for recent tax years, so you're probably working with good current info. Your practical approach of filing in LA and NM while skipping the others where you're clearly below thresholds sounds very reasonable given the tiny amounts involved.
Just wanted to chime in as someone who's been through the MLP tax nightmare multiple times. The advice here is solid, but I'd add one more consideration: if you're planning to invest in MLPs again in the future, it might be worth establishing a filing pattern now even for small amounts. Some states have "lookback" provisions where if you file in one year, they expect you to file in subsequent years even if your income drops below thresholds. This is particularly true for Louisiana and New Mexico. If this was truly a one-time mistake and you're never touching MLPs again, then the practical approach of only filing where enforcement is likely makes sense. But if there's any chance you might end up with MLP income again, consider whether starting a filing relationship with these states now is worth the hassle to avoid complications later. Also, since you mentioned the tax due would be $0 in all states anyway, you might want to check if any of these states charge filing fees for nonresident returns. Some states have minimum fees (usually $25-50) even when no tax is owed, which could make the "file everywhere to be safe" approach more expensive than you'd expect.
This is really helpful advice about the lookback provisions - I hadn't considered that angle at all! Since this was definitely a one-time mistake (lesson learned about MLPs!), I think I'm comfortable with the practical approach of minimal filing. Good point about the filing fees too. I should definitely check if Louisiana and New Mexico charge minimum fees before I decide to file there "just to be safe." If they're charging $25-50 each for a $0 tax liability, that would definitely tip the scales toward not filing at all given the tiny income amounts and low enforcement risk. Do you happen to know off the top of your head which states typically charge these minimum filing fees for nonresident returns?
Miguel Ortiz
I went through this exact same situation two years ago and it was incredibly stressful. Here's what I learned that might help you: The key is understanding that once the IRS confirms the deposit went to the account number listed on your return, they consider their obligation fulfilled. At that point, it becomes a civil matter between you and whoever received your funds. You mentioned Chase hasn't returned the money - this is actually crucial. If the account exists and is active, the account holder legally has possession of funds that don't belong to them. You may need to take legal action against the account holder directly. I'd recommend: 1. Get written confirmation from the IRS that the refund was deposited to the wrong account due to an error on your return 2. Demand Chase provide you with information about the account holder (they may resist, but you have legal grounds since it involves your money) 3. Consider small claims court against the account holder if they won't return the funds voluntarily In my case, once I threatened legal action against the person whose account received my refund, they cooperated with the bank to return the money. The whole process took about 6 weeks, but I did get my full refund back. Don't give up - $5,400 is worth fighting for, and you do have legal recourse here.
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Geoff Richards
ā¢This is really helpful, thank you! I hadn't considered the legal angle of going after the account holder directly. Can you share more details about how you got Chase to provide information about the account holder? I'm assuming they initially said they couldn't share that due to privacy policies. Also, when you threatened legal action, did you actually have to file anything in court or did just the threat work? I'm trying to figure out if I need to budget for attorney fees on top of everything else.
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Debra Bai
ā¢Getting Chase to provide account holder information required persistence and the right legal language. I started by filing a formal written complaint with Chase's executive customer service, citing the Uniform Commercial Code provisions that require banks to assist in recovering misdirected funds. I also referenced the fact that retaining funds that don't belong to you constitutes unjust enrichment under most state laws. Initially they refused, but when I mentioned I was prepared to subpoena the information through small claims court, they became more cooperative. I never actually had to file - just showing them I understood the legal process and was serious about pursuing it was enough. I drafted a demand letter that my friend who's a paralegal helped me write, which probably made it look more official. The key is demonstrating that this isn't just a banking error you're hoping they'll fix out of goodwill, but a legal matter where you're prepared to use the court system if necessary. Most banks will work with you once they realize you're not going away and understand your legal rights. You shouldn't need an attorney for this - small claims court is designed for people to represent themselves, and the filing fees are usually under $100.
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Malia Ponder
I've been through a similar situation with a misdirected refund, and I want to emphasize something that hasn't been fully addressed here: time is critical in these cases. The longer the funds sit in the wrong account, the harder it becomes to recover them, especially if the account holder starts using the money. One approach that worked for me was escalating within the IRS by specifically requesting to speak with the "Erroneous Refund Unit" - this is a specialized department that handles these exact situations. When you call the IRS, don't just ask for general refund help; ask to be transferred directly to this unit. They have more tools and authority to work with banks on recovery. Also, document everything meticulously. Keep records of every phone call, reference numbers, agent names, and dates. This documentation becomes crucial if you need to escalate to the Taxpayer Advocate Service or pursue legal remedies. One thing I learned: if the account is closed or invalid, the funds typically bounce back to the IRS within 5-10 business days. But if it's an active account (which sounds like your case), the bank has no obligation to return the funds without proper legal pressure or intervention from the IRS. The suggestions about congressional intervention and using your accountant's professional channels are excellent - definitely pursue those simultaneously rather than trying one approach at a time.
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Ella rollingthunder87
ā¢This is excellent advice about the Erroneous Refund Unit - I wish I had known about this specific department earlier in my process! The point about time being critical is so important. I'm definitely going to call them today and ask to be transferred directly to that unit rather than getting bounced around to different general refund departments. Your suggestion about pursuing multiple approaches simultaneously makes a lot of sense too. I've been trying one thing at a time and waiting for results, but given how long this has already taken, I should probably contact my congressman's office AND have my accountant use their professional channels while also pushing harder with the IRS specialized unit. One question - when you spoke with the Erroneous Refund Unit, did they have different procedures or forms compared to the standard refund trace process? I'm wondering if I need to start over with new paperwork or if they can work with the trace I already initiated.
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