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Just to add some clarity for anyone following this thread - the original poster's situation is straightforward, but I want to emphasize that non-resident tax rules can have surprising exceptions. For example, if your cousin had been a "dual-status alien" (resident for part of the year), or if he had any US business activities beyond just holding investments, the analysis would be completely different. Also, some states have their own rules for non-residents that can catch people off guard. The good news is that based on what you've described - Australian resident, no US presence, simple stock sales through a brokerage - you're definitely on the right track with just filing the 1040NR and Schedule OI. The capital gains sourcing rules are pretty clear in this case. One small tip: make sure you keep good records of the stock transactions even though you're not reporting them as taxable income. If the IRS ever questions the return, having documentation of purchase dates, sale dates, and amounts will help explain why the gains weren't subject to US tax.

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This is really helpful context! As someone new to dealing with non-resident tax issues, I appreciate you highlighting the potential complications that could change everything. The dual-status alien scenario is something I hadn't even considered - good to know that could completely flip the analysis. Your point about state rules is interesting too. I assume most states follow federal treatment for non-residents, but are there particular states that are known for having their own quirky rules about this stuff? Just want to make sure we're not missing anything on the state level. Also, regarding the record-keeping - should we be documenting anything specific about his residency status (like proof he wasn't in the US) or is the fact that he fails the substantial presence test sufficient documentation?

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Great questions! Regarding state rules, most states do follow federal treatment, but California is notorious for having its own approach to non-resident taxation. California can tax non-residents on California-source income even when the federal government wouldn't tax it. Fortunately, for stock sales, this usually isn't an issue unless the non-resident has other California connections. New York also has some unique rules, particularly around partnerships and S-corps, but again, for straightforward stock sales by a non-resident, it typically follows federal treatment. For documentation of residency status, keeping records of his substantial presence test failure is smart. This could include passport stamps showing entry/exit dates, employment records from Australia, or even something as simple as his Australian tax returns showing he was an Australian tax resident during the relevant period. The IRS rarely asks for this level of detail on routine non-resident returns, but having it available gives you confidence in your filing position. The key is being able to demonstrate he had no meaningful US presence or business activities beyond the passive investment account.

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I went through something very similar with my brother-in-law from New Zealand last year. He had around $8,000 in capital gains from selling some Apple and Microsoft stock through E*Trade, and I was completely confused about the filing requirements. After doing a ton of research and even consulting with a CPA who specializes in international tax, I can confirm what others have said here - you're absolutely doing this correctly. The key insight is that capital gains from stock sales are sourced to the seller's residence for tax purposes, not where the company is headquartered or where the brokerage is located. Since your cousin is an Australian tax resident and has no US trade or business, those gains are foreign-sourced and not subject to US taxation. The 1040NR and Schedule OI are all you need to file. One thing I learned that might be helpful - even though the brokerage didn't send a 1099-B, you should still report the transaction details on your own records. We created a simple spreadsheet showing purchase dates, sale dates, number of shares, and gain/loss amounts. The IRS didn't ask for it, but having that documentation gave us peace of mind that we could support our filing position if needed. Also, make sure your cousin files his Australian tax return properly since those gains will likely be taxable there under their capital gains tax rules.

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I've been doing backdoor Roth conversions for several years now and wanted to share a few additional tips that might help. First, timing matters - I always make my non-deductible IRA contribution in January and then convert it within a few days to minimize any market gains that could complicate the tax reporting. Second, if you have any existing traditional IRA balances with pre-tax money (from old 401k rollovers, etc.), you'll need to deal with the pro-rata rule. This can make backdoor Roth conversions much more complicated because the IRS treats all your traditional IRA accounts as one big pot when calculating taxable portions of conversions. For TurboTax specifically, I've found their "Life Events" section often has a backdoor Roth interview that walks you through both the contribution and conversion reporting. It's usually under something like "Retirement" or "IRA Contributions and Conversions." The software does a pretty good job of generating the correct Form 8606 once you answer their questions accurately. One last thing - don't stress too much about getting the amendment filed immediately. The IRS is generally understanding about Form 8606 corrections since they know this is a complex area. Just make sure you get it sorted before you file your 2024 return that will report the conversion portion.

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Leila Haddad

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This is incredibly helpful, especially the point about timing! I'm new to this process and hadn't considered how quickly I should convert after making the contribution. When you mention converting "within a few days," is there a specific window that's optimal, or is it more about just minimizing any gains/losses in the account? Also, your point about the pro-rata rule is something I definitely need to understand better. I do have an old 401k rollover sitting in a traditional IRA from a previous job. Should I be looking into rolling that back into my current employer's 401k before doing the backdoor Roth conversion to avoid complications? I want to make sure I'm not creating a bigger tax mess for myself. Thanks for the tip about the "Life Events" section in TurboTax too - I'll definitely look for that when I'm ready to file!

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Evelyn Kim

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Great question about timing! There's no official IRS window, but converting quickly (within days or weeks) minimizes market movements that could create taxable gains. If your $6,500 grows to $6,520 before conversion, you'd owe tax on that $20 gain. Some people convert the same day, but a few days is totally fine. Regarding the pro-rata rule - yes, you're absolutely right to be concerned! If you have pre-tax money in any traditional IRA, the IRS calculates the taxable portion of your conversion across ALL your traditional IRA accounts. So if you have $20,000 in pre-tax funds and add $6,500 non-deductible, only about 25% of your conversion would be tax-free. Rolling that old 401k money into your current employer's 401k (if they accept rollovers) is actually a smart move that many people use to "clear the runway" for clean backdoor Roth conversions. Just make sure your current 401k has decent investment options before moving the money there. The key is to have zero or minimal pre-tax traditional IRA balances on December 31st of the year you do the conversion - that's when the IRS takes the "snapshot" for pro-rata calculations.

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I've been following this thread closely since I'm in a similar situation with my backdoor Roth IRA. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is what happens if you discover you need to amend multiple years of returns for missing Form 8606 filings. I realized I've been making non-deductible IRA contributions for the past 3 years but never filed Form 8606 for any of them! Now I'm worried about how to unwind this mess and get my basis tracking correct before doing any conversions. Has anyone dealt with amending multiple years at once? I'm wondering if I should tackle them one year at a time or if there's a more efficient approach. Also concerned about whether the IRS will hit me with penalties for the late Form 8606 filings, even though my actual tax liability didn't change since these were non-deductible contributions. Any advice would be really appreciated - this thread has already been super helpful for understanding the process!

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I went through a similar situation with multiple missed Form 8606 filings! The good news is that the IRS typically doesn't impose penalties for late Form 8606 filings when there's no additional tax owed, since these are non-deductible contributions. For efficiency, I'd recommend filing the standalone Form 8606 for each year rather than doing full amended returns. You can prepare all three forms at once and mail them together with a cover letter explaining the situation. Make sure to clearly mark each form with the correct tax year and sign each one. The key is getting your basis established before doing any conversions. I actually used one of the tools mentioned earlier in this thread (taxr.ai) to help me calculate the correct basis amounts for each year and ensure I wasn't missing anything. It was worth it to avoid any mistakes that could cost me later. Start with your earliest year first and work forward chronologically. This way your basis builds correctly year by year. Keep copies of everything and consider getting confirmation from the IRS that they've processed all the forms before proceeding with conversions.

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I totally understand the panic you're feeling! I went through something similar when I was setting up my consulting business last year. I actually made an even more embarrassing mistake - I accidentally wrote my personal SSN instead of leaving it blank for the business entity section and didn't catch it until after I'd already faxed it. From what I've learned through that experience and talking to other small business owners, the IRS is surprisingly forgiving with these kinds of administrative oversights on SS4 forms. The date field, while included on the form, isn't one of the critical elements that would cause an automatic rejection. The key things they really care about are having a complete signature, accurate business information, and proper entity classification. As long as you've got those covered (which it sounds like you do), you should be in good shape. My recommendation would be to wait about 2-3 weeks and then call to check on the status rather than immediately resubmitting. That way you can confirm they received it and are processing it normally. If for some reason there is an issue, they can guide you on the best way to handle it at that point. Don't beat yourself up too much about this - these forms can be tricky even when you're being super careful. The fact that you triple-checked everything else shows you were being thorough. Best of luck with your new side business!

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Sara Unger

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Holly, thank you for sharing your story! It actually makes me feel so much better knowing that even more significant mistakes (like the SSN mix-up) can get worked out. I'm definitely learning that the IRS seems to be more understanding about these administrative errors than I initially thought. Your advice to wait and call for status rather than immediately panic-resubmitting really resonates with me. I think I was so focused on trying to "fix" it immediately that I didn't consider that might actually create more problems. I'll definitely follow the 2-3 week timeline you and others have suggested. It's also reassuring to hear from someone who successfully got through a similar situation. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and the encouragement about not beating myself up over it!

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Kayla Morgan

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Hey Sarah! I totally get that sinking feeling when you realize you missed something important on official paperwork. I went through a similar panic when I submitted my SS4 form for my freelance business and realized I had made a mistake with one of the fields. From everything I've read and experienced, the missing date really shouldn't be a deal-breaker for your EIN application. The IRS processes thousands of these forms and they're much more concerned with having your signature (which validates your authority to request the EIN) and complete business information than they are about the date field. That said, I understand wanting certainty, especially when you need that EIN for your bank account. My suggestion would be to wait about 2-3 weeks before taking any action. If you haven't heard anything by then, call the IRS Business & Specialty Tax Line to check on your application status rather than immediately resubmitting. This way you can confirm they received it and avoid any potential confusion from duplicate submissions. I know the waiting is stressful when you're eager to get your business up and running, but try not to stress too much about this particular mistake. You clearly put a lot of care into getting everything else right, and that attention to detail will serve you well as you grow your side business. Good luck!

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Nolan Carter

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I can completely relate to this worry! I went through the exact same panic when I started helping my elderly parents with their finances through Cash App. I was depositing cash from my own savings to help them pay bills online, and I was terrified I'd created some kind of tax mess. After researching extensively and even calling the IRS (took forever to get through!), I learned that what we're doing is completely normal and not taxable at all. You're essentially just digitizing physical cash you already own - it's no different from depositing cash at an ATM into your regular bank account. The key thing to remember is that the IRS distinguishes between "your own money" and "income from others." When you deposit your pocket money into Cash App, you're just moving YOUR money from one form to another. No new income is being created, so there's nothing to tax. The $600 threshold for 1099-K forms only applies to payments you RECEIVE from other people for selling goods or providing services. Your own deposits don't count toward this at all. So even if you deposited $5,000 of your own cash, that wouldn't trigger any tax reporting as long as you weren't also receiving payments from others. You're being a good family member helping out, and you definitely don't need to stress about the tax implications of these deposits!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really comforting to know I'm not the only one who went through this exact worry. The fact that you actually called the IRS and got confirmation makes me feel so much better about the whole situation. I love how you put it - "digitizing physical cash you already own" - that's such a perfect way to think about it. I was getting so caught up in all the technical aspects of payment app reporting that I lost sight of the basic principle that this is just my own money in a different format. Your point about the $5,000 example really drives it home too. Even large amounts of your own cash deposits wouldn't be taxable because the source is what matters, not the amount. I feel like I can finally stop worrying about this and just focus on helping my family without the tax anxiety hanging over me. Really appreciate you taking the time to share such detailed reassurance!

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I just wanted to chime in as someone who was in almost the exact same situation! I was depositing my own cash into Cash App to help my roommates with shared expenses, and I was so worried about whether I'd accidentally created taxable income. After doing a lot of research and talking to my accountant during tax season, I can confirm what everyone else is saying - depositing your own physical cash into Cash App is absolutely not a taxable event. You're not earning new income, you're just converting cash you already had into digital form. The easiest way I learned to think about it is this: imagine you had $850 in your wallet and you went to your bank and deposited it. Would that be taxable? No way! Cash App works the same way - it's just a digital wallet instead of a physical bank account. The $850 you've deposited over the past few months is still the same $850 you had before, just in a different format. Since it was your money to begin with, there's no new income being created and nothing for the IRS to tax. You can rest easy knowing you haven't messed anything up tax-wise!

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Paolo Romano

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This whole thread has been incredibly helpful! I had the exact same confusion with my E*Trade 1099-B and was leaning toward answer (b) before reading everyone's explanations. What really clicked for me was understanding that E*Trade is essentially doing the math for you behind the scenes. When they show that $839,230 cost basis, they've already factored in all the wash sale adjustments that happened throughout the year. So that $89,700 "Wash Sale Loss Disallowed" figure represents adjustments that are already reflected in your cost basis - it's not something you need to add separately. I think the confusion comes from the fact that this column exists at all. It feels like it should be part of the calculation somehow, but really it's just there for transparency so you can see how much in losses were disallowed during the tax year. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences with E*Trade support, the IRS, and tax professionals. It's reassuring to see the same answer confirmed through multiple sources. I'm definitely going with the $37,220 realized gain amount when I file!

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Amy Fleming

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Absolutely agree with your explanation! I went through this same confusion last year and it really does come down to understanding that E*Trade is handling all the wash sale calculations automatically in the background. What helped me was thinking about it this way: the "Wash Sale Loss Disallowed" column is like a receipt showing you what adjustments were made, but those adjustments have already been applied to your cost basis. It's similar to how a store receipt might show you the original price, the discount applied, and the final price - you wouldn't add the discount back to the final price because it's already been subtracted. The fact that multiple people in this thread got the same confirmation from E*Trade support, IRS agents, and tax professionals really gives me confidence that $37,220 is definitely the right answer. It's such a relief to have this cleared up before filing season gets too stressful!

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Malik Thomas

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This has been such a valuable thread! I'm dealing with the exact same E*Trade 1099-B situation and was completely lost until reading everyone's explanations. What really helped me understand this was the analogy about the receipt - the "Wash Sale Loss Disallowed" column is like documentation showing what adjustments were made, but those adjustments are already incorporated into the cost basis figure. E*Trade has done all the heavy lifting by automatically adjusting the cost basis upward to account for disallowed wash sale losses. I was initially leaning toward answer (b) and adding the $89,700 to the realized gain, but now I clearly see that would be double-counting. The $37,220 realized gain is already the correct taxable amount because it's calculated using the wash-sale-adjusted cost basis. Thanks to everyone who called E*Trade support, used the IRS callback services, and shared their experiences with tax professionals. Having multiple independent confirmations of the same answer gives me confidence to file correctly. This community really came through with practical, actionable advice!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I was literally about to file my taxes with the wrong numbers. I have a very similar E*Trade 1099-B situation and was convinced I needed to add the wash sale disallowed amount to my realized gains. The receipt analogy really made it click for me too. It's like E*Trade is showing you their work - here's what we disallowed ($89,700), and here's how we adjusted your cost basis to account for it, which resulted in your final taxable gain ($37,220). I was getting so frustrated trying to research this online because you get conflicting information everywhere. But seeing multiple people here confirm the same answer through different sources (E*Trade support, IRS agents, tax professionals) gives me the confidence I needed. One quick question though - when I enter this into TurboTax, should I just enter the $37,220 as my capital gain and ignore the wash sale column entirely? Or does TurboTax ask for that information separately somewhere?

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