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Mystery APA Treas 310 Misc Direct Deposit - Connected to Form SS-8?

So I just checked my bank account and found two separate direct deposits from the IRS. One makes perfect sense - it's my refund from my 2023 return (filed right at the extension deadline on 10/15, mailed it in the old-fashioned way). Amount is exactly what I expected. But there's this second deposit that's completely throwing me off. It's labeled as "APA Treas 310 Misc" and I have no clue what it's for. I've looked through my online transcripts with the IRS and still can't figure it out. The weird thing is, earlier this year I filed a Form SS-8 to get a determination on whether someone should've been classified as an employee vs contractor. Could this mystery deposit be related to that somehow? Has anyone else received random IRS deposits labeled as "APA Treas 310 Misc" that they were able to connect to specific forms or requests? Honestly, I'm hesitant to spend money I don't understand, but also don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth if this is legitimately mine. Any insights would be super helpful!

The "APA Treas 310" code is just a general transaction code for direct deposits from the Treasury Department, and the "Misc" portion suggests it's not a regular tax refund. Based on your situation, this does sound like it could be related to your Form SS-8 determination. When the IRS rules in favor of worker classification as an employee (rather than independent contractor), they sometimes issue refunds for the employer portion of self-employment taxes you may have paid. Since you filed a Form SS-8, if they determined the person should have been classified as an employee, they might be refunding you the employer portion of FICA taxes (7.65%) that you shouldn't have had to pay. You should receive a letter from the IRS explaining the deposit within 1-2 weeks of the deposit. This is standard practice - the money often arrives before the explanation does.

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If it is related to the SS-8, would they automatically adjust prior year returns or do I need to file something else to get the full refund? I'm in a similar situation waiting on a determination.

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The IRS typically doesn't automatically adjust prior year returns after an SS-8 determination. Once you receive the determination letter, you'll likely need to file Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" with amended returns (Form 1040-X) for the relevant tax years. The initial refund you received might be for just one tax year or a partial adjustment, but you may need to amend returns yourself to claim the full benefit of the determination for all applicable years.

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I had a similar situation last year with an SS-8 determination. It took about 5 months after they made the determination for the refund to show up, and like you, it appeared as "APA Treas 310 Misc" in my account. The determination letter came about 3 weeks after the deposit. One heads up - if they determined in your favor on the SS-8, you might need to file amended returns (1040-X) for the affected years to fully correct your tax situation. The initial refund might just cover the employer portion of FICA taxes, but there could be other adjustments needed for your income taxes based on this new classification.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! Did you have to do anything special with the amended returns to make sure they connected it properly to the SS-8 determination? And roughly what percentage of the self-employment tax did they refund?

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You'll want to attach a copy of the SS-8 determination letter to each amended return. Also, instead of reporting the income on Schedule C, you'll use Form 8919 to report the wages and calculate the uncollected Social Security and Medicare taxes. They refunded exactly 7.65% of the eligible income - which is the employer portion of FICA taxes. You're still responsible for the employee portion, which is also 7.65%. So essentially, the determination cuts your self-employment tax burden in half, from 15.3% to 7.65%. In my case, the person who should have treated me as an employee still hasn't issued a corrected W-2, but the IRS process worked anyway.

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Random thought - check your state tax authority too. When the IRS makes these kinds of adjustments, sometimes the state automatically gets notified and processes a corresponding refund for state taxes. I had a similar situation with a contractor/employee determination and got an IRS deposit followed by a smaller state refund about 3 weeks later. The state deposit had a completely different label though.

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This is really good advice! The same thing happened to me in California. Got the federal adjustment and then about a month later, the state sent me a letter saying they were adjusting my state return based on information received from the IRS. Came with a nice little refund too!

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I hadn't even thought about state implications! That's a great point. I'm in Michigan - has anyone had experience with how they handle these adjustments when triggered by federal SS-8 determinations?

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I went through almost the exact same situation about 8 months ago! Filed an SS-8 for a contractor determination and then got a mystery "APA Treas 310 Misc" deposit that had me completely confused. Turns out it was indeed related to the SS-8 - the IRS had determined the person should have been classified as an employee, so they refunded me the employer portion of Social Security and Medicare taxes I had overpaid. The timing sounds about right too - my SS-8 took about 4-5 months to process, and then the refund showed up another month later. The explanation letter came about 2 weeks after the deposit, which cleared up all my confusion. One thing to note: if this is what it is, you'll probably want to keep detailed records because you may need to file amended returns for other affected years. The initial refund might just cover one tax year, but if you paid self-employment taxes on income from this person across multiple years, you could be entitled to additional refunds. Definitely worth waiting for that explanation letter before spending it, but this sounds very similar to my experience!

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same process! Did you end up filing amended returns for multiple years, and if so, was the process straightforward? I'm trying to figure out if I should wait for the explanation letter before doing anything or if I should start gathering documentation for potential amendments now. Also, did you have any issues with the person who should have been classified as an employee - like did they ever issue corrected tax documents?

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I did end up filing amended returns for three tax years - 2019, 2020, and 2021. The process was actually more straightforward than I expected once I had the SS-8 determination letter in hand. I'd recommend waiting for that letter since it clearly states the determination and gives you the official documentation you need for the amendments. As for gathering documentation, definitely start now if you can! Get all your 1099s from that person, your original tax returns, and any records of payments. You'll need these regardless, and it's better to have everything organized when the letter arrives. The person who should have been classified as an employee never issued corrected documents, unfortunately. They basically ignored the determination entirely. But here's the good news - you don't actually need them to cooperate. The IRS accepts Form 8919 with your amended returns even without a corrected W-2. Just make sure to attach a copy of the SS-8 determination letter to each amended return you file. The whole process took about 6 months from filing the amendments to getting the additional refunds, but it was worth it. I got back several thousand dollars in overpaid self-employment taxes across those three years.

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This is exactly what happened to me! I filed an SS-8 about 6 months ago for a similar contractor classification issue, and just last week I got the same "APA Treas 310 Misc" deposit that had me completely puzzled. Based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like this is definitely related to your SS-8 determination. The timing matches up perfectly - mine took about 5-6 months to process before the refund appeared. I'm still waiting for the explanation letter, but after reading through all these responses, I'm much more confident that this is legitimate. One thing I'm curious about - for those who went through this process, did the amount of the refund give you any indication of which tax years it covered? I'm trying to figure out if this initial deposit covers just one year or if it's a combined refund for multiple years. The amount I received seems too large for just one year's worth of employer FICA taxes, but I can't tell for sure without the official explanation. Thanks for posting this question - it's been incredibly helpful to see so many people who went through the same confusing experience!

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I'm in a similar boat - got a mystery deposit last month that I suspect is SS-8-related, but I'm still waiting on any official documentation. From what I've gathered reading through everyone's experiences, the initial refund amount can vary quite a bit depending on your specific situation. Some people seem to get refunds covering just the most recent tax year, while others get a combined refund for multiple years upfront. It might depend on how the IRS processes your particular case or which years they review first. The explanation letter should break down exactly which tax periods the refund covers and whether you're entitled to additional amounts for other years. I'd definitely recommend keeping that money in a separate account until you get the official letter, just to be safe. But it sounds like you're probably in the same boat as the rest of us - waiting for paperwork to catch up with the actual refund!

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Based on all the experiences shared here, this definitely sounds like it's related to your SS-8 determination! I went through something very similar about a year ago - filed an SS-8 for a worker classification issue and then got that exact same "APA Treas 310 Misc" deposit that had me completely stumped. The timeline matches perfectly with what everyone else is describing. My SS-8 took about 4-5 months to process, then the refund appeared about a month later, followed by the explanation letter 2-3 weeks after that. The letter confirmed it was a refund of the employer portion of FICA taxes (7.65%) that I had overpaid when treating the person as a contractor instead of an employee. My advice would be to keep the money in a separate account until you get the official explanation letter - that way you know exactly what it's for and whether there are additional steps you need to take. In my case, I ended up filing amended returns for two other tax years to get additional refunds, which was totally worth the paperwork. The waiting is definitely nerve-wracking, but based on everyone's experiences here, it sounds like you're in good hands. The IRS may be slow, but they seem to be consistent with how they handle these SS-8 refunds!

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This whole thread has been so reassuring! I'm actually dealing with a potential SS-8 situation right now and was dreading the uncertainty, but seeing how consistently the IRS has handled these cases gives me hope. One quick question for those who've been through this - when you filed your SS-8, did you get any kind of acknowledgment or tracking number to follow up on the status? I submitted mine about 2 months ago and haven't heard anything yet, so I'm wondering if that's normal or if I should be concerned it got lost in the system. @Laila Fury - when you mention filing amended returns for additional years, did you wait until after you got the first refund and explanation letter, or did you file them all at once? Trying to figure out the best approach for timing.

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I'm dealing with a similar mystery deposit situation right now! Got an "APA Treas 310 Misc" deposit about two weeks ago and have been scratching my head trying to figure out what it's for. I filed an SS-8 about 5 months ago for a worker classification determination, so reading through everyone's experiences here is giving me a lot of hope that this is finally the result of that process. The amount seems roughly consistent with what the employer portion of FICA taxes would be for the income in question, which makes me even more confident this is SS-8 related. Like others have mentioned, I'm keeping the money in a separate account until I get some official documentation explaining what it's for. One thing I'm curious about - has anyone had experience with how long the explanation letter typically takes to arrive after the deposit? I'm getting antsy waiting for confirmation, but it sounds like 2-3 weeks is pretty standard based on what people are sharing here. This whole thread has been incredibly helpful for putting my mind at ease about this unexpected windfall!

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Your timeline sounds exactly right! I'm in a similar boat - filed my SS-8 about 4 months ago and just got the same mysterious deposit last week. Based on everyone's experiences here, it looks like 2-3 weeks is pretty standard for the explanation letter to arrive after the deposit. I've been checking my mailbox obsessively since the money appeared in my account! It's such a relief to see so many people went through the exact same confusion and it all worked out. The consistency in everyone's stories is really reassuring - seems like the IRS has a pretty standard process for these SS-8 refunds, even if they don't communicate it well upfront. Definitely smart to keep it in a separate account until you get the official paperwork. That's what I'm doing too, just in case there's some weird mistake, though based on all these experiences it sounds like we're probably in the clear!

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This is incredibly helpful to read! I'm going through almost the exact same situation right now - filed an SS-8 about 6 months ago and just received a mystery "APA Treas 310 Misc" deposit that matches what the employer portion of FICA would be for the income in question. The timeline everyone's describing is spot on with my experience. It's such a relief to see so many people went through this same confusing process and it worked out. I was starting to wonder if I should contact the IRS or just wait it out, but based on all these responses, it sounds like the explanation letter should arrive in the next week or two. One thing I'm planning to do while I wait is start organizing all my documentation from that contractor relationship - 1099s, payment records, original tax returns, etc. It sounds like if the determination went in my favor, I'll likely want to file amended returns for other affected years to get additional refunds. Better to have everything ready to go once I get the official letter! Thanks for posting this question - it's amazing how many of us are dealing with the same mystery deposit situation. The IRS really should send the explanation letter with or before the deposit to avoid all this confusion!

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You're absolutely right about getting organized now! I made the mistake of waiting until I got my explanation letter to start gathering documents, and it made the amended return process take much longer than it needed to. Having everything ready to go will definitely save you time once you know for sure what years are covered. Also, just to add to what others have shared - when I got my explanation letter, it included a specific form number reference (Form 8919) that I needed to use for the amended returns. The letter was actually pretty detailed about the next steps, which was helpful after all that uncertainty. Sounds like you're on the right track keeping the money separate and getting your paperwork organized. The waiting is definitely the hardest part!

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This thread has been incredibly reassuring! I'm actually in a very similar situation - filed an SS-8 about 7 months ago for a worker classification issue and just received an "APA Treas 310 Misc" deposit yesterday that had me completely baffled until I found this discussion. The timeline and circumstances everyone's describing match my situation almost perfectly. The deposit amount is roughly what I'd expect for the employer portion of FICA taxes on the income in question, and the timing aligns with what others have experienced - SS-8 processing taking 4-6 months, then the refund appearing about a month later. Reading through all these experiences has given me so much confidence that this is legitimate and related to my SS-8 determination. I was honestly worried it might be some kind of error that I'd eventually have to pay back, but seeing how consistently the IRS has handled these cases for everyone else is really comforting. Like others have mentioned, I'm keeping the money in a separate account until I get the official explanation letter, which sounds like should arrive in the next 2-3 weeks based on everyone's timelines. I'm also going to start gathering all my documentation from that contractor relationship now so I'm ready to file amended returns for other years if needed. Thanks so much for starting this discussion - it's amazing how many people are going through this exact same confusing experience. The IRS really should improve their communication around these refunds!

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I'm so glad I found this thread! I just got hit with the same mystery deposit situation last week - "APA Treas 310 Misc" appeared in my account and I had no idea what it was for. I filed an SS-8 about 5 months ago, so reading everyone's experiences here is such a relief. It's incredible how consistent everyone's timelines are. The deposit amount I received also aligns with what the employer portion of FICA would be, which gives me even more confidence this is SS-8 related. I was actually starting to panic thinking maybe the IRS made some kind of mistake and would want the money back! Following everyone's advice, I've moved the money to a separate savings account and I'm going to wait for the explanation letter before doing anything with it. Also starting to gather all my contractor documentation now so I'll be ready if I need to file amended returns for other years. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so helpful to know I'm not the only one dealing with this confusing process!

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This entire thread has been such a lifesaver! I'm dealing with the exact same situation right now - got an "APA Treas 310 Misc" deposit three days ago that completely threw me off. I filed an SS-8 about 6 months ago for a contractor classification issue, and reading everyone's experiences here has finally put the pieces together. The timing and amount match perfectly with what everyone else is describing. My deposit amount is almost exactly what 7.65% (employer portion of FICA) would be for the income I reported from that contractor relationship. I was honestly starting to worry this was some kind of error that would come back to haunt me! Based on all the consistent experiences shared here, I'm confident this is my SS-8 determination finally coming through. I've moved the money to a separate account and I'm gathering all my documentation from that contractor relationship (1099s, payment records, original returns) so I'll be ready to file amended returns for other years if needed. The waiting for the explanation letter is definitely nerve-wracking, but seeing how systematically the IRS has handled these cases for everyone gives me a lot of confidence. Thanks for starting this discussion - it's amazing how many of us are going through this identical confusing experience. The IRS really needs to send explanation letters WITH the deposits to save everyone this stress!

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