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Mei Zhang

Will I get unemployment if I get fired from my job in California?

So I've been at my current job for about two years working in a warehouse distribution center and honestly things have been going downhill for a few months now. My supervisor and I have been butting heads over scheduling, and last week I got written up for something I genuinely feel was unfair. The whole situation feels like it's heading toward termination and I'm trying to get ahead of it financially. My main question is - will I get unemployment if I get fired? I've never filed for California EDD benefits before and I don't know how any of this works. I make about $22/hour and work full time so I'm assuming I'd qualify based on wages, but I'm scared that being fired automatically disqualifies me. I don't want to be blindsided if it happens. Can anyone walk me through how California EDD looks at terminations vs. quitting?

Great question and one a lot of people get wrong. Being fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from California unemployment benefits. California EDD evaluates WHY you were fired, not just the fact that you were fired. The key distinction is whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law. Misconduct has a very specific legal meaning here - it generally means a willful or deliberate violation of your employer's rules, not just poor performance or making honest mistakes. If you were fired for things like being late occasionally, not meeting productivity quotas, or having a personality conflict with a supervisor, that typically does NOT rise to the level of disqualifying misconduct. You'd likely be approved for benefits. On the other hand, if you were fired for something like intentional theft, harassment of coworkers, or deliberately ignoring a direct safety policy, that could potentially disqualify you. Bottom line: apply regardless of the circumstances. Let California EDD make the determination. Don't assume you're disqualified just because your employer fired you for cause.

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Mei Zhang

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This is really helpful, thank you. So even if my employer tells EDD that they fired me for cause, I still might get approved?

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Exactly. Your employer's characterization of why they fired you isn't the final word. California EDD will contact both you and your employer, gather statements from both sides, and make an independent determination. Employers often say 'fired for cause' hoping it disqualifies the claim, but California EDD digs into whether the specific behavior actually meets the legal definition of misconduct. Document everything on your end - the write-up, any emails, anything that shows context.

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this is true i got fired and still got benefits. my boss said i was fired for performance issues and edd approved me no problem

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To add some practical detail to what was already said - when you file your California EDD claim after a termination, you'll go through what's called adjudication if there's any question about your separation from work. Basically EDD pauses and investigates before paying you. During this period you need to keep filing your weekly certifications every single week without skipping, even though you won't see any money yet. A lot of people stop filing because they think the claim is frozen or denied - huge mistake. Once adjudication resolves in your favor, all those weeks you filed get paid out at once. The adjudication process can take anywhere from 2 weeks to 2 months depending on how complicated your case is and how backed up California EDD is.

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Mei Zhang

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Wait so even while they're investigating I have to keep doing the weekly certification? What do I say for the job search part?

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Yes keep filing every week no matter what. For the job search requirement, California EDD requires you to make at least one job search contact per week while certifying (some weeks it may ask for more depending on your situation). You log your employer contacts - company name, position applied for, date, method of contact. Keep a separate record of these yourself too, not just what you enter in UI Online. And make sure your contacts are real - don't just make things up because EDD does audit job search records.

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the adjudication part stressed me out SO much. nobody told me to keep filing and i missed like 3 weeks before someone told me. had to call edd to get those weeks added back which was its own whole nightmare

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Honestly the hardest part of all this isn't understanding the rules - it's actually getting through to a California EDD agent when something goes wrong with your claim. I was in adjudication for almost 6 weeks and couldn't get anyone on the phone to tell me what was happening. I tried calling at 8am the second the lines opened, tried calling right before they closed, tried every day for two weeks straight. Either got a busy signal immediately or stayed on hold for 90 minutes and got disconnected. Someone in another thread mentioned Claimyr (claimyr.com) and I was skeptical at first but I was desperate. It basically gets you in the queue to have an EDD agent call you back instead of you sitting on hold forever. There's a video that shows how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. Used it when my adjudication was dragging on and actually got a call back from an EDD rep who was able to tell me exactly where my claim stood and what documents they needed. Adjudication resolved within a week after that call.

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Mei Zhang

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Six weeks in adjudication sounds terrifying. Did the agent actually help or just give you the runaround?

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She was actually really helpful once I got her on the line. Told me specifically that they were waiting on a statement from my former employer and that I needed to submit a written rebuttal with my side of the termination story. That specific information made all the difference - I submitted the rebuttal through UI Online documents and got approved about 8 days later.

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gonna bookmark that claimyr link because ive been trying to reach edd for 3 weeks about a completely different issue and cannot get through for anything

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I want to flag something important that people sometimes overlook when asking 'will i get unemployment if i get fired' - your BASE PERIOD wages matter just as much as the reason for separation. California EDD calculates your benefit amount based on wages you earned during a specific 12-month window called the base period (the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed). You need to have earned enough during that period to monetarily qualify. For most full-time workers who've been employed 2+ years like you mentioned, this usually isn't an issue. But it's worth knowing that even if your separation is totally approved, if you don't meet the wage threshold, you won't receive benefits. Your weekly benefit amount will be roughly 60-70% of your average weekly wages up to the state maximum.

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Mei Zhang

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Good to know. I've been working full time at this warehouse for almost 2 years so I should have plenty of wages on record. Do I need to gather any wage documents before I apply?

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You don't need to gather them upfront - California EDD pulls wage records directly from your employer's quarterly payroll filings with the state. But it's a good idea to have your own records handy in case there are any discrepancies. Your last few pay stubs are helpful to have. Also have your employer's address and EIN ready when you file - you'll need that information in the initial application.

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my base period wages were fine but edd still showed a lower benefit amount than i expected. turns out one of my employers hadnt reported all my wages correctly. had to submit extra documentation to get it corrected

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can someone explain the difference between getting fired and getting laid off for edd purposes? my coworker said laid off is automatic approval but fired you have to fight for it

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Your coworker is roughly right but not entirely. A layoff due to lack of work - meaning the employer eliminated your position or reduced staff for business reasons - is generally approved quickly because there's no misconduct question. The separation reason is clear. With a termination for cause, California EDD has to investigate whether the reason meets the misconduct standard, which is why those claims go into adjudication. But 'fighting for it' isn't quite the right framing - you just respond to EDD's questions honestly and let the process play out. Many termination claims get approved without any drama.

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ok that makes more sense. so a layoff doesnt mean automatic adjudication but fired for cause might trigger it?

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Exactly right. Though California EDD can also put other claim types in adjudication for various reasons - if they question whether you're available for work, if there are issues with your identity verification, or if your earnings look unusual. Adjudication just means EDD needs more information before paying - it doesn't automatically mean denial.

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I went through this exact situation eight months ago, fired from a retail management job after a conflict with the district manager. Here's what I wish someone had told me: write down everything that happened BEFORE you leave that job or as soon as possible after. Dates, what was said, who witnessed things, emails - all of it. When California EDD contacts you for your statement during adjudication, having specific dates and details makes your account much more credible than vague recollections. I kept a Google Doc with a detailed timeline and when I gave my statement to EDD, I could reference exact dates and specific conversations. Got approved after about 3 weeks.

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Mei Zhang

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That's such practical advice. I've already started writing things down since things have been tense. Should I include the write-up I received as documentation?

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Absolutely include it. Any written documentation from your employer - write-ups, performance reviews, emails about the situation - can all be submitted to California EDD as supporting documentation. Paradoxically, a write-up can actually help your case sometimes because it shows the conflict was ongoing and gives context that it wasn't a single serious incident. It demonstrates a pattern of escalating friction rather than a clear-cut fireable offense.

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this advice is gold. i didnt document anything and my adjudication dragged way longer because i couldnt remember specific details when edd asked me

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ugh i hate that this even has to be a question. the system is designed to make you feel like getting fired means you deserve nothing. worked for a company for 2 years, they create an impossible situation, manufacture reasons to fire you, and then fight your unemployment claim on top of it. employers ALWAYS contest claims because it affects their UI tax rate. don't let them intimidate you OP. APPLY. California EDD has heard every version of 'fired for cause' and they know employers exaggerate.

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Mei Zhang

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Yeah I definitely feel like my employer is setting me up. The write-up feels manufactured honestly.

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Document the pattern. If they're creating a paper trail to justify firing you, you create your own paper trail showing the actual working conditions. Hostile management, unreasonable demands, shifting standards - all of that is relevant context for your EDD claim. You're not required to just accept their narrative.

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To be fair EDD does try to be neutral and evaluate both sides. But yes, the baseline advice is correct - always apply and let EDD make the determination. Don't preemptively disqualify yourself based on what your employer might say.

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Something nobody mentioned yet - after you file your initial California EDD claim online through UI Online, there's usually a waiting week before benefits begin even if everything gets approved cleanly. It's not a penalty, it's just built into the California unemployment system. First week you're eligible is technically unpaid. So if you're gaming out your finances, factor in that you won't get paid for that first week. Also note that EDD claims can take 3-5 weeks even in uncomplicated cases before you see your first payment, so if you have any savings buffer at all, protect it now.

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Mei Zhang

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The waiting week thing is annoying but good to know. So realistically even if I file the day I get fired, I'm looking at 4-6 weeks before money hits my account?

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For a termination claim that goes into adjudication, realistically yes. Possibly longer if adjudication takes a while. It's one of the brutal realities of the system. Apply THE DAY you're let go - do not wait. Waiting only delays everything further since your benefit year starts from the date you file, not the date you were terminated.

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waiting week is so frustrating especially when you didnt choose to be out of work. but yes apply immediately, same day if possible

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One thing that confused me when I went through this - California EDD will ask you on the application whether you were fired, laid off, or quit. Be honest about selecting fired/terminated. Some people think saying 'laid off' when they were actually fired will help their claim go smoother. It doesn't - if your employer reports a termination for cause and you claimed layoff, that discrepancy itself creates problems with your claim. Honesty with EDD is always the right move even when you're nervous about how they'll interpret your situation.

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Mei Zhang

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That makes sense. I wouldn't lie about it anyway but I can see how people think they're helping themselves.

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Yeah the instinct to frame things favorably is natural but California EDD cross-references everything with your employer's records. Inconsistencies flag your claim for closer review, which is the last thing you want when you're already dealing with a termination investigation.

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Also be specific when describing your separation. Don't just say 'fired' - describe the circumstances briefly. 'Terminated by employer following a written warning for attendance, dispute over scheduling policy' gives EDD much more to work with than just 'got fired.

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has anyone dealt with an employer who really aggressively fights the unemployment claim? like submitting a ton of documentation and calling it gross misconduct? my situation is a bit different from OP but wondering what recourse you have

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Yes, employers do sometimes fight hard, especially larger companies with HR departments that know how to frame terminations. The good news is California has relatively strong protections for claimants. If EDD sides with your employer and denies your claim, you have 30 days from the notice date to file an appeal with the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB). At the appeal hearing, you can present your own evidence and witnesses. Many claimants who are denied at the initial stage win on appeal, especially if they show up prepared and the employer's misconduct claim was exaggerated.

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Good to know about the 30 day appeal window. I was denied initially and didn't realize I could appeal. Is it too late if it's been a few months?

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Unfortunately the 30-day deadline is strict and CUIAB doesn't typically grant exceptions. If it's been months, you may not be able to appeal that specific denial. However, if your circumstances have changed or you've had new unemployment since then, you might have grounds for a new claim. I'd suggest calling California EDD to understand your specific situation - your options depend on the exact dates involved.

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Circling back to the phone issue because I know this will come up - when your claim is in adjudication and you haven't heard anything for weeks, the urge to call California EDD becomes overwhelming. The phone system is genuinely terrible. I mentioned Claimyr earlier but want to emphasize - when I was trying to check on my adjudication status, I spent probably 8-9 hours across multiple days just trying to get through. Using claimyr.com to get a callback was the only thing that actually worked. The agent I spoke with was able to pull up my claim in real time and give me a status update. That kind of direct information is impossible to get any other way when adjudication is dragging. The video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 explains the whole process if you're skeptical like I was.

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Mei Zhang

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8-9 hours trying to get through is insane. I'm going to bookmark that for if/when I need it.

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the edd phone situation has been bad for years honestly. between the hold times and getting disconnected it's infuriating when you're just trying to get basic information about your own claim

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Just want to share a quick win - I was fired from a restaurant job three months ago. My manager wrote me up for 'insubordination' and I was sure I was toast when I filed. California EDD sent me a questionnaire asking for my side, I explained that the 'insubordination' was me refusing to falsify a food safety log at my manager's request, and I was approved. The whole process took about 4 weeks total including adjudication. Don't assume fired = denied. It really depends on the specifics.

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Mei Zhang

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That's such a reassuring outcome, thank you for sharing. Refusing to falsify records is obviously not misconduct - I'm glad EDD saw it that way.

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Right and I think that's the key thing people miss - EDD isn't just rubber stamping whatever the employer says. They actually evaluate whether what happened was genuinely YOUR fault and whether it was willful or intentional wrongdoing vs. just a messy workplace situation.

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stories like this are why i tell everyone to just apply no matter what. worst case they deny you and you appeal. best case you get approved and have income while you job search

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sorry for the tangent but this thread is making me realize i have a related question - what about if YOU quit but because the working conditions were so bad it basically forced you out? does california edd consider that?

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Yes! That's called constructive discharge or quitting for good cause. California unemployment law does recognize that if an employer makes working conditions so intolerable that a reasonable person would feel compelled to quit, you may still qualify for benefits. Things like unpaid wages, unsafe working conditions, harassment, significant reduction in pay or hours, or being asked to do something illegal can all potentially qualify as good cause to leave. You'd still go through adjudication but it's not automatic disqualification. The bar is reasonably high though - general unhappiness or minor conflicts usually don't meet the standard.

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mine was unpaid wages situation actually. they were consistently shorting my hours on the paycheck. definitely filing now

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Unpaid wages is one of the stronger good cause arguments you can make. Make sure you have documentation - pay stubs vs. hours actually worked, any complaints you made to management, etc. File with California EDD and also consider filing a wage claim with the California Labor Commissioner's office simultaneously.

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something that really helped me navigate my claim was understanding that EDD's definition of misconduct is WAY narrower than most people think. your employer can call something misconduct all day long but legally it has to be: (1) a substantial breach of duty to the employer, (2) willful or wanton in nature, not just negligent or an honest mistake. basically if you just messed up or underperformed, that's not misconduct under California law. this distinction is why so many fired workers still get approved.

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This is exactly the framing I needed. My situation is much more about a conflict over scheduling and what I'd call unfair treatment, not anything intentional I did wrong.

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That sounds like a very strong basis for approval honestly. Interpersonal conflicts and scheduling disputes, even if they escalated to a write-up or termination, are generally not the kind of willful misconduct that disqualifies a claim. Apply with confidence and give EDD your honest account.

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what kills me is employers know exactly what language to use to make things sound worse than they are in their EDD submissions. 'pattern of insubordination' sounds way more serious than 'disagreed with supervisor about schedule three times.' the language game is real

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Practical tip: after you file your initial claim, set a calendar reminder to do your weekly certification every week on the same day. The certification window opens Sunday and closes Saturday for each week. Missing a week can create gaps that are a pain to fix and may require calling California EDD to sort out. Treating it like a non-negotiable weekly appointment saves you a lot of headache.

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Mei Zhang

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I've heard the weekly certification is really important. Is there anything tricky about the questions they ask?

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The questions are fairly straightforward but a few trip people up. 'Did you look for work?' - answer yes and have your contacts ready. 'Did you work or earn any wages?' - be honest, even part-time or gig work needs to be reported. 'Were you able and available to work?' - answer yes unless you were genuinely sick or had some reason you couldn't have accepted a job. Answering no to that question flags your claim.

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also keep copies of everything you submit for your certifications. edd's system occasionally loses records and having your own documentation saves you if there's ever a question about whether you filed

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can i ask something that might be dumb - if i get fired and my employer disputes my unemployment claim and edd is investigating, do i have to tell potential new employers that my unemployment is contested? like does it show up anywhere?

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Not a dumb question at all. No - your California EDD claim status, adjudication proceedings, and any disputes are completely separate from your employment record and are not accessible to potential employers. Background checks do not reveal unemployment claim history. EDD adjudication is confidential between you, your former employer, and EDD. You have absolutely no obligation to disclose this to anyone you're applying to.

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huge relief thank you. i was nervous about that

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also separate note - you SHOULD be actively job searching while collecting unemployment regardless of whether you're hoping to stay out of work temporarily. california edd requires genuine job search activity and audits do happen. the job search requirement isn't just a checkbox

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Reading this whole thread as someone who just got the call this morning that today was my last day. Warehouse job, two years in, 'restructuring' they said but I'm the only one who got let go and I had a conflict with my manager last month so. Anyway, filing my California EDD claim tonight. This thread answered basically every question I had. Thank you all.

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Mei Zhang

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Sorry you're going through it. File tonight for sure - same day is the right move. Good luck, this thread helped me feel a lot more prepared too.

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Sorry to hear it. File immediately, keep detailed notes about the circumstances, file your weekly certifications every single week without fail, and don't panic if you end up in adjudication. The process is slow but it works. Wishing you a smooth and quick approval.

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If your claim goes into adjudication and you're having trouble getting through to California EDD, check out claimyr.com - saved me weeks of frustration when I was in your same situation. The callback system actually works when the regular phone lines are impossible. Hope you get approved fast.

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One more thing worth mentioning since this thread is so comprehensive - the California EDD appeals process exists and is more accessible than people think. If you get denied, you file a DE 1000M appeal form within 30 days. You get an actual hearing before an administrative law judge where you can present evidence, bring witnesses, and make your case. Claimants who show up to hearings with documentation win a significant percentage of the time. The appeals board (CUIAB) is separate from EDD and operates more like a mini-court. Don't treat a denial as the end of the road.

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Mei Zhang

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Really good to know this exists. Hopefully I won't need it but it's reassuring to know there's a formal appeals process with an actual hearing.

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Exactly - and at the hearing, you can call your former manager as a witness if you want (through subpoena if necessary), submit emails and texts as evidence, and have the judge ask probing questions to both sides. Many employers who fight claims at the EDD level don't bother to send representatives to CUIAB hearings, which often results in automatic wins for claimants.

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i didnt know employers sometimes dont show up to hearings. that's actually really useful information. kind of levels the playing field for workers who feel intimidated by the whole process

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