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Whats unemployment insurance and how does it work in California EDD?

okay so embarrassing question but whats unemployment insurance exactly? like i got laid off from my warehouse job last week and my coworker said i should apply but i genuinely dont know what it is or how it works. do i have to pay for it? does my job have to agree to it? how much money would i even get? sorry if this is a dumb question i just never had to deal with this before and googling it gives me like government websites that are hard to understand

Not a dumb question at all, most people have no idea how this works until they need it. Unemployment insurance is basically a program where the state pays you a portion of what you used to earn while you're out of work and looking for a new job. The money comes from a fund that your employer has been paying into on your behalf the whole time you worked there, so it costs you nothing out of pocket and your old job doesn't get to decide whether you get it or not. EDD, which stands for Employment Development Department, runs California's program. You apply, they look at what you earned over roughly the last year and a half, and if you qualify they send you money every two weeks while you keep looking for work.

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wait my employer was paying into it the whole time?? i had no idea. so they were basically paying for this insurance in case i lost my job?

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Exactly that. Nothing ever came out of your own paycheck for unemployment, only the state disability deduction (CASDI) you might have noticed, and that one is for disability and paid family leave, not unemployment. Your employer covered the unemployment side the whole time.

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the CASDI thing confused me for so long, i thought i was paying into unemployment this whole time lol

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Layoffs from warehouse work in December are brutal, sorry you're going through that. UI Online handled most of my claim when I got laid off from a distribution center two years back, but there was one week where my payment showed pending and nothing moved for nine days. DE 429Z had shown up in the mail, so I knew the weekly amount, but no payment came through. Ended up reaching a live EDD agent through Claimyr (claimyr.com) after the hold music on 1-800-300-5616 ate about two hours of my morning. The video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 is literally titled about reaching a live person at EDD by phone, which is what I needed. The agent pulled up my account and told me one of my certified weeks had a pending flag tied to an identity step I hadn't finished in ID.me, and once I completed that the payments released the next business day.

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oh interesting so there can be holds even after you apply? good to know going in. and that phone line being that bad is kind of scary

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the identity thing tripped me up too, the ID.me step is easy to miss if nobody tells you its required

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pending flags are so stressful when bills are due, glad you got it sorted out

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Since you just got laid off, here is the practical stuff in order. Apply as soon as you can at https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ because your claim starts on the Sunday of the week you apply, not the day you got laid off. Have your Social Security number, a state ID or driver's license, and the name and address of your last employer ready, plus the dates you worked there and roughly what you earned each quarter. After you apply it takes about three weeks for EDD to process everything and send your first payment, so the sooner you get in the better.

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three weeks feels like forever when you have rent due but i guess ill apply today then

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Apply today for sure. The start date being the Sunday of the week you apply is a big deal, every day you wait is potentially money you can't get back

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And heads up, the first week you're approved for is an unpaid waiting period. So in practice the first payment you actually receive covers week two. EDD calls week one the waiting week.

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THE PHONE LINE IS A NIGHTMARE just want to warn you now. called at 8am on the dot, got the busy signal. called again at 8:03, busy. tried for literally an hour. the online stuff works fine for the basic stuff but the second you have an actual question you need a human for good luck lol. not trying to scare you just mentally prepare yourself

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ugh thats what im afraid of. hopefully i dont need to call but knowing my luck

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the live chat in UI Online (the Help button once you're logged in) works monday to friday 9 to 2 and is honestly faster than the phone for a lot of questions. saved me multiple times

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oh i didn't even know about the live chat, that would have saved me a lot of grief

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The weekly benefit amount is worth understanding before you apply so you know what to expect. EDD looks at the highest paid quarter out of roughly the first four of the last five completed quarters before your claim. Whatever you earned in that best quarter, they run a calculation and your weekly payment lands somewhere between $40 and $450. If you go to edd.ca.gov there's an Unemployment Benefit Calculator that lets you punch in your wages and get an estimate. After you're approved the actual number shows up on a form called the DE 429Z that EDD mails you.

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so the max is $450 a week? that seems like not a lot for people in expensive cities but i guess its something

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Yeah the cap is $450 regardless of what you were making. It was designed to replace a portion of your income, not all of it. For someone who earned a lot it's a smaller percentage, for someone on the lower end it replaces more.

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i was surprised how much my actual amount differed from the calculator estimate, the calculator is a rough guide not a guarantee

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something my friend told me that turned out to be wrong: she said i had to prove i was actively applying to like 10 jobs a week and log them all into some EDD system. that stressed me out and i almost didn't apply because it sounded like so much work. the real answer is you have to be looking for work and able and available each week you certify, but EDD doesn't give you a specific number of applications to hit. keeping a record of where you apply is just a smart habit to have, not a tracked requirement in some portal

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i heard the same 10 jobs thing and was also worried about it, good to know thats not an actual rule

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The keeping-your-own-records habit is genuinely useful though, because if EDD ever asks about your work search activities you want to have something to show. Just a simple note with dates and company names is plenty.

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okay that is way less stressful than what i was imagining, thank you for clearing that up

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CalJOBS is the other thing nobody told me about when i first applied. EDD sends you a notice that most claimants need to register on CalJOBS and post a resume within 21 days or it can pause your payments. the site is caljobs.ca.gov and it's pretty straightforward, took me maybe 20 minutes. just don't ignore that notice if it shows up

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what is caljobs? is that separate from the edd website

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totally separate. it's california's job search platform, kind of like a state-run jobs board. the notice EDD sends will tell you if you need to register, not everyone does, but most people do. it's called the DE 8405

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the 21 day window goes faster than you think, definitely do it the same week you get that notice

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Certifying is probably the thing that confuses new claimants the most. After EDD processes your application, every two weeks you go into UI Online and answer questions about whether you were able to work, available for work, looking for work, and whether you earned anything. That two-week certification is what triggers your payment. You don't get paid automatically just because you're approved, you have to certify every two weeks to keep it going.

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oh i did not know that, i thought once you're approved the money just comes. good to know you have to keep checking in

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A lot of people miss their first certification and then wonder why nothing has been deposited. EDD will also send you info about when your first certification is due, usually around two weeks after the application is processed.

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and certifications are every two weeks not every week, took me a minute to get used to that rhythm

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got laid off from a warehouse job too earlier this year. whole process felt overwhelming at first but honestly once i got through the application it was pretty smooth. what helped me was just doing each step as it came up instead of trying to understand every piece at once. apply first, then deal with the CalJOBS registration when that notice comes, then certify when that opens up. one piece at a time

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that is actually really helpful advice, i tend to get overwhelmed when i try to understand everything at once

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same honestly. and the EDD site at edd.ca.gov has a step by step guide for new claimants that walks you through it in plain language if you want something to reference

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One thing worth knowing about how the payment lands: EDD sends the money to a Money Network prepaid debit card automatically unless you set up direct deposit or request a paper check in myEDD. The card shows up in the mail after you're approved. Some people miss their first payment because they're waiting for a direct deposit they never actually set up.

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oh wow i would have definitely assumed it was going to my bank account. ill watch for the card in the mail

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the card confused me too, my first payment sat on that card for a week before i realized i had to activate it

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can i ask a dumb question related to this — does unemployment show up on your credit report or affect getting an apartment? my lease is up in two months and im worried about applying for a new place while on unemployment

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Not a question for anyone here to answer definitively, that depends on the landlord and the building. What people here can speak to is their own experience, and even then it varies a lot. It might be worth calling 211 in your area to find out what local housing resources exist.

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okay fair enough, just panicking a little. ill call 211

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been there with the apartment panic. for what it's worth in my own experience i was upfront with my landlord about being between jobs and they still rented to me, it really does depend on the individual

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DE 429Z came in the mail about two weeks after i applied and my amount was lower than the calculator estimated. freaked out a bit. EDD's calculation goes off your highest earning quarter in the base period which for me didn't include my most recent raise since it hadn't been a full quarter yet. nothing was wrong, it's just how the timing of the base period works out sometimes

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so your most recent earnings might not even count? that seems kind of unfair if you got a raise right before getting laid off

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yeah it stings a little but that's how the standard base period is set up. EDD does have an alternate calculation they use automatically if the standard one doesn't get you to a valid claim, but if your claim is already valid with the standard method they go with that one

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The alternate base period uses the most recent four completed quarters, so it can include more recent earnings, but only if the standard base period doesn't produce a valid claim. It doesn't get used to bump up an amount that already qualifies.

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Taxes on unemployment benefits trip a lot of people up. The money you get from EDD is considered federal income, so you owe federal taxes on it at the end of the year. But California doesn't tax it at the state level. EDD gives you the option to have 10 percent withheld for federal taxes each time you certify, which a lot of people do so they don't get a surprise tax bill in April. EDD mails a 1099G every January showing what you received.

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okay good to know, i'll probably do the 10 percent withholding so i don't forget about taxes

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smart move especially if this is your first time. the 1099G is also available in UI Online under Payments if you need it before the mail comes

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got hit with a federal tax bill my first year on unemployment because i didn't do withholding, do not make that mistake

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Waiting week thing tripped me up hard. Applied, certified for the first two weeks, got one week of payment instead of two. Panicked and called EDD thinking something was wrong. Agent explained the first eligible week is always unpaid, it's the waiting week every claim has. So my first certification covered the waiting week (unpaid) and week two (paid). Nothing was missing.

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ugh that would have made me panic too. good to know that is expected and not a problem

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yep it's normal, it doesn't reduce how many total weeks you can get, it's just the first week is always unpaid

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Pension income is worth flagging if that applies to you. Some retirement pay based on your past work can reduce what EDD pays out each week. EDD calculates it on your specific case. Social Security on the other hand doesn't get deducted and you don't even report it. If you have a pension from your old job you should ask EDD how they're going to treat it.

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no pension for me at my age lol but good to know for future reference

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i asked about this when my mom was going through it and the EDD rep said social security doesn't affect the weekly amount at all, which was a relief

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Partial work while on unemployment is something a lot of people don't realize is allowed. If you pick up part-time work or gig work while your claim is open you don't have to stop certifying, you just report what you earned for that week. EDD has a formula where the first $25 or 25 percent of what you made (whichever is bigger) doesn't count against you, and the rest gets subtracted from your weekly amount. So working a little usually still pays better than not working at all.

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oh this is huge actually, i was going to try to get some temp work. so i should definitely report it even if its small amounts?

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Always report it. You report wages for the week they were earned, not the week you get the paycheck. Missing wages when you certify is the kind of thing that leads to overpayment notices later and that is a whole headache you don't want.

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the earn-while-you-collect thing saved me during my last layoff, temp work plus the partial benefit was actually enough to cover my basics

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Severance pay question for anyone who knows: my coworker got laid off from the same place last month and they gave her a severance package. she was worried she couldn't apply for unemployment until it ran out. does severance block your claim?

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Severance paid under a company plan or policy isn't counted as wages for unemployment purposes, so it doesn't block or delay a claim. Your coworker could have filed right away. That said, it still goes on the list of things to report when certifying since EDD asks about it, and EDD makes the call on each case.

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so she should have applied right away instead of waiting? wish someone had told her that earlier

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tell her she can still file now if her benefit year hasn't started. the claim year runs 52 weeks from when it's opened so she hasn't necessarily missed anything depending on when the layoff was

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Appeal rights are worth knowing about even before you need them. If EDD sends a Notice of Determination saying you don't qualify, you have 30 calendar days from the mailing date on that notice to appeal in writing. They include an appeal form called the DE 1000M with the notice. Missing that 30-day window makes things much harder so if you get a denial, don't sit on it.

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hopefully i dont need that but good to file away. 30 days from the mailing date, got it

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and keep certifying even while an appeal is going. EDD can only pay you for weeks you actually certified for, so if you stop certifying during an appeal you lose those weeks even if you win

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My layoff came out of nowhere and I had no idea what to do. Used Claimyr to get through to EDD when the phone line kept dropping me, asked the agent about whether my last two weeks of vacation pay needed to be reported since my employer paid it out as a lump sum at separation. Agent found my account, confirmed which weeks were showing as pending, and explained that vacation pay is on the list of things to certify about when it's earned. Ended up certifying that week and the payment came through.

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vacation pay question is good to know about actually, hadn't thought about that

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yeah it was something i would not have thought to look up, glad i asked

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Food and health coverage while on unemployment is a real concern and there are options. CalFresh (California's food stamps program) is available even if you're on unemployment, your benefit income counts as proof of income when you apply and you go through BenefitsCal or call 1-877-847-3663. For health coverage, Covered California has plans regardless of income and COBRA can keep your old workplace plan going. Worth looking into both while you're in the application process.

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i was actually going to ask about healthcare since i had it through work. so COBRA keeps my old insurance going?

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COBRA lets you stay on your employer's plan but you pay the full premium yourself, which can be expensive. Covered California might be cheaper depending on your situation. Both are worth pricing out.

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Covered California has enrollment windows so check whether you're in one, losing job-based coverage usually qualifies you for a special enrollment period

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Contacted EDD through the Ask EDD form on their site to ask about whether my part-time freelance work before the layoff counted toward my earnings. The response came back in a few days and confirmed that self-employment income in the base period does factor into the wage calculation. Claimyr got me to an agent the same week when I wanted to follow up on my actual weekly amount after the DE 429Z arrived because the number looked off. The agent walked me through how the base period quarters lined up and confirmed the amount was calculated correctly from the wages EDD had on file.

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so freelance income counts toward what you earned? i did some side work last year

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yes it factors in, but make sure EDD has a record of it since it may not have been reported to them through an employer. worth noting when you apply

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Self-employment income in the base period can help establish a valid claim but the specifics of how it's counted are something to confirm with EDD directly on your own situation

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wait someone said earlier you need to register on CalJOBS within 21 days. what happens if you already missed that window, is the claim automatically canceled or is there a way to fix it

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Missing the CalJOBS registration can pause payments but the claim doesn't just disappear. Register as soon as you can and then contact EDD through a message in your UI Online account to let them know it's done. The sooner you do it the better.

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okay doing it right now then, thank you

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don't panic, just get it done. a lot of people miss the notice the first time around and work it out

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