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If a job fires you can you get unemployment in California? EDD rules explained

So I got fired from my warehouse job last Friday and I honestly don't even know where to start. My supervisor said I violated a attendance policy but I had a doctor's note for two of those absences and HR never even looked at it before they let me go. I always thought getting fired meant you couldn't collect unemployment but my coworker said that's not always true in California? I'm trying to figure out if I even have a shot at getting benefits or if I should just start job hunting and forget about filing. Been there 4 years so I do have wages in the system. Anyone know how this actually works when your employer fires you?

Wait, so they fired you without even reviewing the doctor's note? That matters a lot here. Getting fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from California EDD unemployment. The burden falls on your employer to show you actually did something wrong enough to count as misconduct — it's not just any rule violation, it has to be something more serious. A documented medical absence with a note sounds like a pretty solid defense. File right away through myEDD at https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ and be completely honest about why you were let go.

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So I should tell them I was fired? I was kind of scared to admit that on the application.

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Definitely tell the truth on the application. EDD contacts your former employer anyway, so they'll hear both sides. If you say you quit and they say you were fired, that creates a bigger problem for you than just being honest upfront.

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Misconduct has a specific meaning under EDD rules — it's not just getting written up or breaking a minor work rule. Your employer has to actually prove it. A firing alone doesn't cut off your benefits.

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Had almost the exact same situation about eight months ago — fired for attendance but I had FMLA paperwork and my manager never submitted it properly. EDD scheduled a phone interview after I filed, which is totally normal when there's a question about why someone was let go. Both me and my employer got to give our sides. I ended up qualifying. The key is keeping all your documentation ready: the doctor's note, any emails from HR, anything in writing.

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How long did it take from filing to actually getting paid? I'm already stressed about rent.

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From the time I applied it was about three weeks before the first payment came through. There's also a one-week waiting period that doesn't get paid — just something to plan around.

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Three weeks sounds about right for a first payment on a standard new claim. File as early as possible because the clock starts from the Sunday of the week you apply, not the day you were fired.

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Termination paperwork from my last job listed 'policy violation' and I had no idea if that counted as misconduct under EDD's rules. Claimyr (claimyr.com) got me on the phone with a live EDD agent after I'd been getting nowhere trying to reach anyone myself — the video on reaching a live person at EDD by phone is at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent pulled up my claim and told me the interview was still open and that the specific form with the interview date and time — the DE 4800 — had been mailed to my address. She said to have my documentation ready and to be by my phone at the time listed on that notice. That was the most useful information I'd gotten in weeks.

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I haven't gotten any mail from EDD yet but I only filed two days ago. Should I be watching for that DE 4800 specifically?

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The DE 4800 is the one that tells you when the phone interview is scheduled, what time, and what questions they're likely to ask. Keep your phone nearby at that exact time — the interviewer calls at the scheduled hour.

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My DE 4800 came about a week after I filed. The interview time is also on your UI Online homepage once EDD schedules it, so you can double-check there too.

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Can I ask something — does it matter WHY they say you were fired, or just that you were fired? Like if they give a fake reason to avoid paying unemployment is that a thing that happens?

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EDD does look at what both sides say and weighs the evidence. If your employer claims misconduct but can't back it up, that works in your favor. The employer has to prove the misconduct, not just assert it.

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Okay that makes sense. I was just worried because my old company had a reputation for making stuff up when they let people go.

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Document everything you have on your end — texts, emails, the note from your doctor, your time records. If the employer's story doesn't match the evidence, EDD takes that into account.

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FOUR YEARS at that job and they fired you over absences you had a doctor's note for?? This is exactly why I tell everyone to file no matter what the employer says the reason was. EDD makes the decision, not your boss. I've seen people assume they can't get benefits and not file, then find out months later they would have qualified the whole time. DON'T WAIT.

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Yeah I really wish I had known that sooner. Filing today.

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Good. And once you file, register on caljobs.ca.gov too — you usually have 21 days from the date on the notice EDD mails you. Missing that can hold up payments.

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Something I want to flag for anyone reading this thread: getting fired is not the same as being disqualified. EDD has its own definition of what counts as misconduct, and your employer claiming you broke a rule isn't enough on its own. The interview is where both sides get to explain what happened, and EDD decides from there. If EDD decides you don't qualify, you get a written Notice of Determination and have 30 calendar days from the mailing date on that notice to appeal it.

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What happens during the actual phone interview? Do I need a lawyer or anything?

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No lawyer needed — it's just you and the interviewer going through what happened. They'll ask about the absences, whether you had documentation, what your employer said. Be straightforward and have your records in front of you. You can have someone represent you if you want but most people handle it themselves.

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Appeals can go to a full hearing in front of an administrative law judge if EDD's initial decision goes against you. At that point some people do bring representation, but for the initial interview it's usually just a conversation.

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Does having a good attendance record for most of those four years count for anything? Like can you bring that up in the interview?

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You absolutely can mention it. Context matters. Four years of consistent work followed by a few absences backed by medical documentation paints a very different picture than a pattern of no-shows with no explanation.

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That's good to know. I'd assume EDD at least looks at the full picture and not just whatever the employer puts in their response.

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Filed on a Monday, got my DE 4800 by the following Thursday. The interview itself was about 15 minutes — they asked me to walk through what happened, whether I had any warning before the termination, and whether I had documentation for the absences. Mine was for a different reason but the process sounds identical to what you're describing. Keep the DE 4800 handy because it lists the specific questions they might ask, which helped me prepare.

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Did you end up qualifying after the interview?

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Yep, got a Notice of Unemployment Insurance Award — the DE 429Z — in the mail after. First certification covered the waiting week plus the first paid week.

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The DE 429Z shows your weekly benefit amount and the total your claim can pay. If anything on it looks wrong, you can appeal within 30 days of the mailing date.

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wait does EDD call YOU for the interview or do you have to call them? i always get confused about this

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EDD's interviewer calls at the time listed on your DE 4800. You don't call them — you just need to be reachable at that exact time. If you miss it, phone EDD that same day because otherwise they may decide your case with only the information they have.

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oh okay so you just wait by your phone. got it. that's less scary than I thought

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The interview time also shows up on your UI Online homepage so you can keep track of it even before the DE 4800 arrives in the mail.

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My brother told me if you get fired for ANY reason you automatically can't get unemployment. That's what I believed until I read this thread. Is that actually a myth?

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Total myth. EDD looks at whether the reason for firing meets their standard of misconduct. Your employer still has to prove it. Plenty of people who were fired collect benefits in California.

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Wow okay. My brother was laid off a couple years ago and I wonder if he just assumed he couldn't file and never did.

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So many people don't file because they think being fired bars them automatically. That misconception costs people real money.

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For anyone wondering about the base period thing — your weekly benefit amount comes from what you earned in the highest quarter during your base period, not your most recent paycheck. Four years at a warehouse job probably means you have solid wages in the system. You can estimate what you might get using EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator on edd.ca.gov.

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I make decent money hourly so hopefully that translates okay. I'll check the calculator.

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Just remember the calculator gives an estimate — the actual amount is on the DE 429Z when it arrives. Weekly benefits in California run from $40 up to $450 a week.

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After my interview I had a few weeks showing as Pending in UI Online for a while. That's normal when there's an open eligibility question from a firing — it just means EDD is still working through it. Don't panic if you see that.

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How long did your pending weeks stay pending?

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Mine resolved about two weeks after the interview. Once EDD made its decision the payments for all those weeks came through together.

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Pending weeks can pile up fast. The important thing is to keep certifying every two weeks regardless, because EDD can only pay weeks that have been certified — they can't go back and pay ones you skipped.

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Attestation during the interview — does EDD ask whether you tried to fix the situation before the firing? Like whether you talked to HR or tried to dispute the write-ups?

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They can ask about the whole sequence of events leading up to it. If you raised the issue with HR and they didn't respond properly, that's relevant context. Bring up the doctor's note and the fact that HR didn't review it.

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Makes sense. It's not just about the final decision to fire, it's about whether the company followed a fair process too.

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i read somewhere online that if you're fired for attendance you always get denied in california. is that true??

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Not accurate. Attendance-based firing isn't automatically disqualifying. EDD looks at whether the absences were the employee's fault, whether there was documentation, and whether the employer handled it reasonably. Medical absences backed by a doctor's note are a completely different situation than just not showing up repeatedly.

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okay good because i was fired for attendance two years ago and i did get benefits so that checks out

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Right — EDD decides each case based on the specific facts, not just the category of reason. 'Fired for attendance' covers a huge range of situations.

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Termination letter I got from my old job just said 'separation from employment' and didn't specify misconduct at all. When I called EDD — took me forever to actually get through, I ended up using Claimyr to reach a live agent — the agent looked at my claim and confirmed the interview was scheduled and that the reason code from my employer hadn't indicated misconduct. Really took the anxiety down a few notches knowing what was actually in my file.

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So the agent could actually see what your employer submitted? I didn't know they could share that.

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She could see the status of my claim and that the employer's response was in. She didn't read it out verbatim but told me what mattered for my next step.

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Worth knowing you can at least ask EDD what stage your claim is at. Sometimes just knowing whether the employer responded or not helps you figure out what's coming.

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Can you file for CalFresh while the EDD decision is still pending? Like if money is tight during the waiting period?

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Yes — CalFresh and unemployment are separate programs. You can apply for CalFresh through BenefitsCal while your EDD claim is still being decided. They'll want proof of income, and once benefits start, that counts as income for CalFresh purposes, but you're not barred from applying while pending.

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Thank you, didn't know that was an option while waiting on EDD.

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Medi-Cal and Covered California are also worth looking into if you lost health coverage when you got fired. All of those can be applied for independently of your unemployment claim.

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Heads up for OP — make sure you're registered on CalJOBS and have a resume posted within 21 days of whatever notice EDD mails you about work registration requirements. Missing that deadline can hold up your payments even if everything else with your claim goes perfectly.

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EDD mails a separate notice for that? I didn't realize there was a CalJOBS registration step.

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The notice is called a DE 8405. When it arrives, it'll have the deadline date. CalJOBS is at caljobs.ca.gov — just create an account and post a resume. Usually straightforward.

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CalJOBS registration caught me off guard too on my first claim. It's easy to miss if you're focused on the claim itself and not watching for every piece of EDD mail.

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I'll be honest the phone system at EDD is a nightmare. Spent three separate mornings trying to get through, kept getting disconnected. If you need to actually speak to someone about your claim status mid-adjudication, the live chat in UI Online (the Help button, Monday to Friday 9 to 2) is worth trying first. If that doesn't work, 1-800-300-5616 at 8 a.m. sharp on a weekday gives you the best odds — just be ready to wait.

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Does the live chat actually work? I tried it once and got an error.

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Hit or miss honestly. Some days it loads fine, other days it seems like all the agents are occupied. Try right at 9 a.m. when they open.

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The 8 a.m. strategy works better than trying later in the day in my experience. Mondays are the worst. Wednesday or Thursday morning seems to have shorter waits.

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Warehouse job layoffs and firings in that industry often come down to attendance policies that are applied inconsistently — I've seen cases where the same supervisor who fired one person looked the other way for another. If you have any coworkers who witnessed how the policy was handled for others, that kind of context can help your interview. You probably won't need it, but have it ready.

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That's actually a good point. I know at least two coworkers who had attendance issues and nothing ever came of it.

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Mention that in your interview — the inconsistent application of the policy. It's not guaranteed to change anything but it's relevant context about whether the firing was really about the stated reason.

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Last week of a claim — do you have to do anything special to close it out or does it just end? Asking because I'm on week 24 and trying to plan ahead.

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The claim runs for a benefit year, which is 52 weeks from when you filed. You can collect for up to 26 weeks total if you have enough wages. Once the weeks are used up or the year ends, that claim closes on its own — no special step to end it. If you get back to work and then lose that job while your benefit year is still open, you'd reopen the existing claim rather than filing a new one.

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Okay so I don't need to 'close' it myself. That's what I figured but wanted to confirm.

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Adjudication period — my claim sat in adjudication for six weeks after my firing before I got any payment. I know that sounds scary but it resolved and I got all those back weeks paid at once. EDD was just working through the question of whether the firing was for misconduct. Keep certifying every two weeks no matter what the status says in Claim History.

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Six weeks is a long time. How did you stay on top of things during that stretch without panicking?

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Honestly didn't stay calm the whole time. But checking UI Online to make sure I'd certified correctly each period helped. And knowing there was a process helped more than the actual information did.

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Six weeks in adjudication after a disputed firing is not unusual. The process exists specifically for situations like this where both sides have different stories. It taking time doesn't mean the answer is no.

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One more thing for OP — if EDD decides you don't qualify after the phone interview, the Notice of Determination will come with an Appeal Form (the DE 1000M). You'd have 30 calendar days from the mailing date on the notice to file a written appeal. At that point an administrative law judge hears the case. Keep certifying through the whole appeal process so if you win, you have weeks available to be paid.

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I'm hoping it doesn't come to that but good to know the option exists.

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With a doctor's note for the absences they're basing the firing on, your position in the interview sounds pretty strong. Document everything and let EDD do its job.

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Appeals that go to a hearing in front of a judge do get a real look — testimony is under oath, you can bring documentation, you can represent yourself or have someone else there with you. It's more formal than the initial interview but it's not as intimidating as it sounds.

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Employer-submitted that the firing was for a 'policy violation' — that phrase alone doesn't establish misconduct under EDD's standard. EDD has to decide whether what actually happened meets the bar, not just whether it technically violated a written rule. Medical documentation for the absences they cited puts you in a solid position going into that interview.

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Does EDD ever ask the employee to submit documents before the interview, or is it all done verbally during the call?

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Mostly the interview itself is verbal, but you can reference documents you have and sometimes EDD asks you to send them in afterward. Have everything organized and ready to describe accurately.

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If EDD asks for supporting documents after the interview, the best way to send them is through your UI Online account using the message option. Keep copies of everything you send.

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Two things people get confused about with firings and unemployment: first, your employer cannot deny your claim — they respond to EDD's inquiry but EDD makes the decision. Second, even if your employer says they won't pay unemployment, that's not a thing they control. EDD decides eligibility, period.

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Wait employers can't just say no? I thought they had the power to block it.

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Nope. Employers respond to EDD's notice about the claim, and EDD weighs both sides. The employer's tax rate can be affected by claims paid out against them, so they may contest it, but they don't have veto power.

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The number of people who don't file because their employer threatened to 'fight it' is way too high. The employer fighting it just means EDD hears both sides — it doesn't mean you lose.

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