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Omar Farouk

If a company fires you can you collect unemployment in California EDD?

Got let go from my warehouse job last Friday, completely out of nowhere. My supervisor pulled me into the office and said they were 'moving in a different direction' but wouldn't give me anything in writing about why. I've been there four years, never had a written warning, never missed a shift. Now I'm sitting here wondering if a company fires you can you collect unemployment, or if getting fired automatically disqualifies you. I applied online through myEDD the same day I got the news and it's been about five days. I have no idea what happens next or whether I even qualify given that it was a termination. Anyone been through this?

Termination from my job back in October put me in the same boat as you, and I had no idea how the fired-versus-quit distinction actually worked for EDD until I got a live agent on the phone. DE 4800 showed up in my mailbox scheduling the eligibility interview, which was the first real signal EDD had a question. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to reach an agent before the interview because I needed to know what documents to pull together. The agent looked at my file and confirmed the interview was listed as open and said to have any performance records or emails ready in case the employer claimed misconduct. Their video on how to get a live person at EDD by phone is at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see what that looks like. The core thing the agent explained: being fired doesn't disqualify you on its own — EDD makes the employer show actual misconduct before they deny a claim, and 'moving in a different direction' isn't the same thing as misconduct.

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Four years with not a single write-up and they want to call it misconduct? That's wild. So I should actually go ahead and keep my eyes on the mail for that DE 4800?

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Exactly, watch for it and note the date and time printed on it because that's when the interviewer phones, and you want to be reachable at that exact window.

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The part about misconduct being on the employer to demonstrate is accurate. EDD's standard is essentially: did the person deliberately do something that violated a reasonable workplace rule? A vague direction change doesn't come anywhere close.

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Went through a termination myself about eight months ago and was terrified I'd be denied automatically. The short answer is no, being fired doesn't mean instant disqualification. EDD looks at the reason behind it. If your employer goes to EDD and says you intentionally broke a rule or did something deliberately wrong, that's what can get you cut off. But if they can't back that up, benefits move forward. The burden is on them to make that case, not on you.

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That's honestly such a relief to read. 'Moving in a different direction' is basically nothing. I have no disciplinary file at all.

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i got fired once and they tried to say i abandoned my shift but i never did they just never scheduled me after i asked for time off, edd still paid me so yeah it matters what actually happened not just that you got fired

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The DE 429Z mailing is what really made the process click for me when I was terminated — that's the form that shows your weekly benefit amount based on your highest earning quarter from roughly the year and a half before you filed. Seeing an actual dollar figure in writing made the whole thing feel more real. The range EDD uses goes from $40 to $450 a week, and your four years of steady warehouse work probably means you land toward the higher end depending on what you earned.

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I was making about $22 an hour full-time so I'm hoping that puts me somewhere decent on that scale. Do they look at all four years or just recent wages?

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Just the recent period — roughly the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. So your 2026 and late 2025 wages are what count, not the whole four-year stretch.

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EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator on their site can give you a rough estimate before the DE 429Z arrives if you want a ballpark number.

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EDD sent the Notice of Claim Filed to my last employer after I filed, and my employer actually contested it, which triggered the phone interview. If your employer stays quiet and doesn't respond, EDD moves forward without their side. But if they respond and claim misconduct, that's when both of you get interviewed separately. Just want to flag that it can go differently depending on whether your employer bothers to reply.

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Honestly not sure if my employer will bother responding. They were pretty disorganized. But I want to be ready either way.

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Being prepared is the right move regardless. Keep any texts, emails, or performance reviews you have, even if they just show nothing was ever flagged.

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EDD gives the employer ten days from the date on that claim notice to respond. If they miss it, EDD makes its decision without hearing from them, and they lose the right to appeal EDD's call.

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My first week after getting terminated I was so convinced being fired meant I couldn't get anything that I almost didn't even apply. Huge mistake that would have been. The claim date goes back to the Sunday of the week you file, so every day you wait is potentially a week you can't get back.

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I did apply the same day I got let go so at least that part I handled right.

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That was the smart move. The waiting week — the first eligible week that doesn't get paid — has to be served regardless, but getting it ticked off early helps.

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yeah the waiting week thing catches people off guard, one week just doesn't get paid no matter what, it doesn't add weeks to your claim it's just unpaid at the front

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FOUR YEARS AND NO WRITE-UPS and you're worried about whether you qualify?? You're almost certainly fine. The cases where EDD denies a fired worker are for stuff like theft, harassment, showing up drunk, refusing a direct order repeatedly. 'Moving in a different direction' is basically what companies say when they don't have a legal misconduct case. I've seen EDD approve way more termination claims than people expect because employers can't meet the standard.

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The vagueness of their reason was actually stressing me out more than a real explanation would have. At least if they'd given me something concrete I'd know what I was dealing with.

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The vagueness actually works in your favor here. No paper trail of discipline plus a nothing reason equals a weak case for the employer.

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UI Online showed pending status for about two weeks after my termination claim went in, which I nearly had a meltdown over. Turned out EDD just had a question open on eligibility because I'd been terminated, not because anything was wrong with my application. Once the phone interview happened and EDD sorted it out, the pending weeks updated and paid out.

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Mine just says processing right now. How long did it take before you saw the interview scheduled in UI Online?

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Showed up on my UI Online homepage about ten days after I filed, with the date and time for the interview. The same info was on the DE 4800 when that came in the mail.

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pending for me felt like FOREVER but yeah it did resolve after the interview, just very nerve wracking while you're waiting on bills

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CalJOBS registration is something a lot of people forget about right after filing and then get surprised when it causes a payment issue. Most claimants get a Notice of Requirement to Register for Work, the DE 8405, and have 21 days from that date to register and post a resume at caljobs.ca.gov. Missing it can hold up payments even when the eligibility question is completely resolved.

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I had no idea about this. So I need to register on CalJOBS separately from the myEDD account?

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Yep, two separate systems. CalJOBS is for the job search registration piece, myEDD is where you have UI Online for certifying and checking payment status. Watch for the DE 8405 in your mail and get the CalJOBS profile done before that 21-day window closes.

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The resume doesn't have to be perfect, it just has to be posted. You can update it later. The main thing is to get it up before the deadline on that notice.

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Severance is the one thing I'd think about in your situation. If your company is offering any kind of severance package, you should still report it when you certify. EDD classifies severance differently from wages — it generally doesn't disqualify you or push your start date out — but you're still supposed to report it and EDD decides how it applies to your claim.

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They offered me two weeks pay as severance. Wasn't sure if taking it would mess up my claim.

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Taking it shouldn't disqualify you, but report it accurately on your certification and let EDD determine how it's counted. Don't try to guess whether it affects a week or not.

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This is right. EDD's own guidance says severance paid under a company plan isn't treated the same as regular wages for UI purposes, but the rule is to report what you receive and let EDD do the math.

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they dont tell you this but the phone interview isn't like a scary interrogation, they just ask what happened from your side, why you think you were let go, whether there were any warnings or incidents before that last day. just answer honestly and don't try to spin anything, edd interviewers have heard everything

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Good to hear. I'm going to be nervous no matter what but it helps to know it's more of a conversation than a formal thing.

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i literally wrote down what i was going to say beforehand the first time and it helped, like just the basic facts in order

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Accurate, and also don't speculate or guess during the interview. If you don't know why they fired you, say you don't know. Sticking to what you actually know is better than offering a theory that could complicate your case.

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Paycheck questions after termination: your final paycheck should include all wages earned through your last day. Some people wonder if they report that on EDD or not. You'd report any wages earned in the week they were earned, and your final paycheck just covers work you already did so it typically falls in the last week you worked. Regular wages like that just get reported normally.

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They paid me out through last Friday which was my final day so that part seems clean at least.

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Then that last pay period is straightforward — earned in that last week, reported on that week's certification if EDD asks about it.

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The waiting week tripped me up conceptually at first. I kept thinking it was some kind of penalty for being fired but it's not — every single claimant serves it, whether they quit, got laid off, got terminated, whatever. It's just the first eligible week of the claim, and it doesn't get paid. Everything from the second eligible week onward can be paid once eligibility is confirmed.

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someone told me once that if you get fired you have to wait longer than if you're laid off, that's not true right

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Not true as a general rule. The waiting week is one week for everyone. What can extend how long it takes to actually receive money is the phone interview and EDD's eligibility decision, but that's separate from the waiting week itself.

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Correct, and to close the loop on that: a termination does trigger an eligibility review and usually a phone interview, which can delay when the first payment lands. But the waiting week period doesn't get longer because of how you left your job.

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Fifth day since getting laid off myself and reading this thread gave me more information than three hours of clicking around EDD's site. Quick thing on the actual certification process: you don't start certifying right away after applying. EDD processes the application first, which takes a few weeks, and then you certify every two weeks from there. The first certification usually covers the waiting week plus one paid week.

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So I should just be watching for mail and checking UI Online while EDD processes things, not expecting to certify immediately?

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Exactly. UI Online will show when certifying opens up. Keep an eye on the Claim History section for any status updates in the meantime.

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And when you do certify, make sure to certify every two-week period — skipping a certification period can create gaps that are complicated to fix after the fact.

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The thing that makes me genuinely angry about how EDD handles terminations is that the EMPLOYER gets notified and gets to give their version, but you as the claimant often don't even know what they said. You just show up to the phone interview not knowing what claim the company made against you. It's not a fair fight in terms of information and I think more people should know that going in.

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That asymmetry is real and frustrating. The practical response is to just tell your side completely and accurately, because EDD is weighing both accounts and inconsistencies in the employer's version can actually work in your favor.

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Yeah I know it's the right answer strategically, it just bothers me that you're essentially going in somewhat blind.

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Worth adding: if EDD denies the claim and you disagree, you get the Notice of Determination with the stated reason for denial, and that's when you see more of what was considered. That's also when the 30-day appeal window opens.

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My termination claim from earlier this year had a weird wrinkle where I was also owed vacation payout. When I certified I reported it in the week EDD asked about and an agent I reached confirmed it was listed on my record. Ended up talking to that agent through Claimyr because I needed to get through without spending my morning redialing — four termination-related issues were listed on my account and I needed to know which one was actually holding up payment. The agent sorted through each one and told me only one was pending a decision, the others had been cleared.

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Four separate issues flagged sounds like a nightmare. Glad you got someone who actually walked through each one.

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It would've been impossible to untangle from just UI Online. The Claim History doesn't tell you which specific piece is the holdup, just that something is pending.

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vacation payout being reported is something i always forget to mention, glad someone flagged it because i think i under-reported once and had to contact edd to fix it

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Misconduct is a word that gets thrown around a lot in these threads and I want to be clear about what it actually means in EDD's world. It's not just any reason for firing — it's about whether you intentionally did something that crossed a clear workplace rule. A company deciding they don't want you anymore, changing its structure, or not liking your performance without any formal documentation of violations is very different from misconduct. Performance issues alone typically aren't misconduct under EDD's standard.

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No one ever told me my performance was a problem in four years. If anything I had good feedback at my last review.

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That history matters. If EDD asks and you have that context, it's worth mentioning — it speaks directly to whether the termination was for cause in any real sense.

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Accurate distinction. EDD's own language on this draws the line at deliberate wrongdoing. Poor performance that the employee didn't intend as a rule violation has consistently been treated differently from misconduct in EDD's determinations.

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DE 1080CZ in the mail would be the denial notice if EDD decides against you, and it comes with the DE 1000M appeal form attached. Appeal window is 30 days from the mailing date on the notice, not the date you receive it. Keep certifying through the whole appeal if you end up needing to go that route — EDD can only pay back weeks that were actually certified.

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I really hope I don't get to that stage but it's good to know the path if it goes sideways.

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Fingers crossed you don't need it. With a clean record and a vague firing reason, the odds look pretty solid from what others have described in this thread.

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the appeal process is slower than you'd want but it does work, i appealed a denial last year and an administrative law judge reviewed it, hearing notice came by mail and i represented myself and won

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Weekly benefit estimate question for people earlier in this thread who mentioned warehouse wages: the DE 429Z is what shows the official number, but EDD's Unemployment Benefit Calculator is worth running now just to get a rough sense of your weekly amount. Put in your quarterly earnings from the last year and a half and it'll give you an estimate. Helps with budgeting while you wait for the official document.

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Going to do this tonight. I've been kind of avoiding doing the math because I'm scared of the number but I need to know what I'm working with for rent.

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Knowing the floor is better than the anxiety of not knowing. Even if the actual number is lower than you'd like, having a real figure to work with is easier than guessing.

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My firing was for 'attitude' which feels even vaguer than 'moving in a different direction' and I still got approved. The interview took about 25 minutes, they asked me to describe the last few weeks of work and what led up to the termination, and I just told them what happened factually. Got paid for the pending weeks not long after.

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' Attitude is wild.'I ll take that as a good sign 'for directionchange.

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Yeah if EDD approved that one I think yours has a reasonable shot. The key is just being consistent and factual in the interview.

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This is why I always tell people to apply no matter what the stated firing reason was. The vague ones especially — EDD has seen every excuse employers give and they know which ones are real misconduct and which are just cover.

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On certifying through a pending or appealed claim — this comes up often enough to be worth repeating: EDD cannot pay any week that wasn't certified. Even if everything resolves in your favor, an uncertified week is gone. Set a reminder for every two-week certification window. It's the one part of this process that is entirely on the claimant.

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Noted. I'm going to put recurring reminders in my phone calendar once I see certifying open up in UI Online.

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Smart. UI Online is fastest for certifying, or EDD Tele-Cert at 1-866-333-4606 works as a backup if you can't get online for some reason.

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And if you ever get the two-week window mixed up, you can check Claim History in UI Online to see which periods have been certified and which are coming up. That section is useful for tracking where you are.

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Pulling this thread back to the original question for anyone finding this later: getting fired is not a disqualifier on its own for California unemployment. The question EDD actually investigates is whether the employer can demonstrate that the person was fired for genuine workplace misconduct — something deliberate and against clear rules. A vague reason, a business direction change, a personality mismatch, a layoff disguised as a termination — none of those are misconduct. File the claim, complete the phone interview honestly, stay on top of certifications, and let EDD make its determination.

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This whole thread has honestly been more helpful than anything I've found on EDD's actual site. I feel way more prepared for the interview now.

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came here with the same exact question like a year ago and this kind of thread is exactly what I needed then, glad it exists

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The interview prep piece is underrated. People focus on whether they qualify and forget that how clearly they communicate their side in that call is what actually determines the outcome most of the time.

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Last October my claim sat with a pending adjudication tag for three full weeks after my interview, which I later found out was because the employer filed a late response. Used Claimyr to get through to EDD and the agent told me the employer's response had just come in and EDD was processing both sides. Knowing the actual status versus just staring at 'pending' in UI Online was the difference between panicking and just waiting it out.

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Three weeks of pending with no explanation would've destroyed me. Good to know you can actually get a real status update from an agent.

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The UI Online Claim History just doesn't have enough detail for situations where there's a live eligibility question. An actual agent can tell you exactly where your claim is in the process.

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Something worth mentioning for anyone who worked a physical job like warehouse: if you got hurt on the job or have any workers' comp history from that employer, that's a separate system from unemployment but EDD does want to know about any workers' comp payments when you certify. Report it and EDD handles how it interacts with your UI claim. Don't leave that out thinking it won't come up.

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No injuries luckily, but good to know for anyone reading this who might have that situation.

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Mostly flagging it because warehouse work has a higher rate of that kind of situation and people assume EDD and workers' comp are totally separate. For filing purposes they mostly are, but income from one can affect the other.

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Termination claims sit in a different pile than straightforward layoffs at EDD, which just means they take a bit longer because there's an eligibility decision being made. The timeline people see in this thread — pending for a few weeks, interview, then payment updating — is pretty standard for a termination. It's not a sign anything is wrong with your claim, it's just how the process works when there's a question about why you left.

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Makes sense that they'd treat it differently. I'll adjust my expectations and not freak out every time something shows pending.

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The patience required to get through the EDD process when you're watching your bank account is genuinely one of the hardest parts. Set up the CalJOBS registration, get the certifications ready, and try to let the process run.

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Keeping a folder with every EDD notice as it comes in is something I wish someone had told me early on. DE 429Z, DE 4800, DE 8405 — having those in one place means you're not scrambling when you need a date or a form number.

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