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Aisha Ali

If I get fired from a job can I collect unemployment in California EDD?

So I got let go from my warehouse job last Friday. My supervisor said it was because I missed too many shifts but honestly the schedule kept changing with no notice and I couldn't always make it work with my kids' school situation. HR told me it was 'attendance related termination' on my paperwork. I don't even know what that means for my unemployment claim - does attendance count as misconduct? I've never filed before and I don't know if I'm wasting my time applying. If I get fired from a job can I collect unemployment or is that an automatic no? Really stressed about bills and would appreciate any help from people who've been through this.

Attendance stuff is exactly the kind of thing EDD has to decide after hearing both sides. The way it basically works is your former employer has to show you did something intentionally wrong or reckless - just missing shifts because your schedule was changing on you is a very different situation than, say, just not showing up because you felt like it. File your claim. EDD will schedule a phone interview and ask you and your employer what happened. You explain the schedule changes and the childcare situation. EDD makes the call after that. Apply through myEDD at https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ as soon as you can because your claim starts from the Sunday of the week you apply, so every day you wait is potentially a week you lose.

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Aisha Ali

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Thank you - so there's actually a chance even though the paperwork says termination? I was scared it was automatic disqualification. I'll go apply right now.

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Yeah file immediately. Don't wait around overthinking it. EDD decides, your employer doesn't get to just say no and have that be the end of it.

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The 'apply now, week starts Sunday' thing is so important and nobody tells you that upfront. Lost a week myself because I waited a few extra days thinking the date I got fired was what mattered.

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My layoff last year was completely different from yours but the application process is the same either way. Have your Social Security number handy, your driver's license or state ID number, the full address of that warehouse employer, the exact dates you worked there, and roughly what you earned each quarter. Also have ready the last day you worked and the reason - you'll put termination/fired. EDD will notify your old employer and that's when the interview process kicks in.

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Aisha Ali

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Do I need pay stubs to apply or can I just estimate what I made? I think I have some but not all of them.

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You can estimate when you apply - EDD will verify wages with your employer directly. Just be as accurate as you can.

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Also don't forget to set up ID.me verification. After you submit the application EDD will want you to verify your identity through ID.me and if you skip that step your claim just sits there going nowhere.

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Termination paperwork from my last job said 'performance issues' and I had no idea if that meant I was disqualified. The DE 429Z notice came in the mail showing my weekly benefit amount, which told me EDD was processing it, but I still had no idea where things stood on the actual eligibility decision. Claimyr (claimyr.com) got me to a live EDD agent on the phone - the way it handles the hold time meant I actually ended up talking to someone instead of getting cut off. The video about reaching a live person at EDD is at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see what that looks like. I asked the agent specifically whether the 'performance issues' language on my termination paperwork would affect the interview outcome and she said EDD looks at what actually happened, not just what the employer writes on the form, and that the phone interview is where I'd explain my side. She also confirmed my interview date matched what was on the DE 4800 notice.

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Aisha Ali

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This is really helpful - so the DE 429Z showing a weekly amount doesn't mean you're approved, it just means EDD is calculating what you'd get if they decide yes?

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Exactly right. The DE 429Z is just the math on what your claim could pay based on your wages. The actual eligibility decision comes separately after the interview.

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Attendance problems at a past job before this one almost kept me from applying at all because I assumed fired always meant no. Knowing there's an interview process where you explain things changes the whole picture.

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ATTENDANCE IS NOT AUTOMATICALLY MISCONDUCT. I cannot stress this enough. I see people in these threads all the time just not filing because they got fired for attendance and they think it's pointless. EDD has to look at WHY you missed shifts. Were you told in advance what the schedule would be? Did your employer change it on you? Did you call out or just not show? All of that matters. File. The worst they can do is say no and then you appeal.

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Aisha Ali

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The schedule literally changed week to week and sometimes I found out day of. I have some texts from my supervisor showing the last minute changes. Would those help?

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Yes save every single one of those. During the phone interview you can reference them. You don't submit documents to EDD at the interview stage but having them in front of you to refer to when you explain what happened is really useful.

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Honestly the texts could matter a lot at an appeal too if it comes to that. Keep screenshots.

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Agreed on saving the texts. And to your point about appeals - file the appeal within 30 days of the mailing date on any denial notice you get. The form DE 1000M is included with the denial.

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Something I wish someone had told me when I got fired from my retail job two years ago: EDD does NOT just take your employer's word for it. Your former employer gets notified and has 10 days from EDD's notice to respond with their side. Then EDD schedules the phone interview to hear you out too. The interview notice, the DE 4800, will come in the mail and also show up on your UI Online homepage so you don't miss the date and time. Being at that phone ready when the interviewer calls at the scheduled time is really important - if you miss it, phone EDD that same day.

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Aisha Ali

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What happens if I miss the interview? Like would I be automatically denied?

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EDD would make the decision based only on whatever information they already have, which probably means just your employer's side. That's why you call EDD the same day if you miss it - explain what happened and try to get it rescheduled.

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Missing the interview is probably the biggest mistake people make when they get fired and are filing for the first time. Set three alarms for that day.

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Quick thing about the base period math since nobody's mentioned it - your weekly benefit amount is calculated from what you earned in what EDD calls the base period, which is basically the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. So if wages were higher in a more recent quarter that might not be in the standard base period. EDD runs an alternate calculation automatically if the standard one doesn't give you enough wages to qualify, so don't panic if you haven't been at this job super long.

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The alternate base period thing confused me so much when I first filed. Good to know EDD handles that automatically.

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Yeah you don't have to request it or anything. EDD just checks whether the standard base period gives you a valid claim and if it doesn't, they look at the alternate one on their own.

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Aisha Ali

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I've been at this warehouse job for about 14 months so hopefully I have enough quarters. I did earn decent wages there before all the schedule drama started.

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I went through a firing situation last spring - 'insubordination' was what my employer called it. Filed anyway. The phone interview was about 20 minutes and the interviewer asked me specific questions about what happened, what my supervisor said, whether I had warnings. EDD mailed me the decision about two weeks after. It went in my favor. The point is you genuinely don't know until you go through the process, and the process exists for exactly this kind of situation where there's a dispute about what happened.

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Aisha Ali

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This is really encouraging, thank you. Did they ask you to send in any documents or was it all over the phone?

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All over the phone for the interview itself. I had my notes and the written warning they gave me in front of me for reference but the interviewer didn't ask me to fax or mail anything.

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Same experience here. It's verbal but having your documentation organized in front of you makes it easier to answer the questions clearly.

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The interviewers are generally professional about it. They're not trying to catch you out, they just need both sides of the story.

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Also make sure you register in CalJOBS (caljobs.ca.gov) and get your resume posted within 21 days of the date on the notice EDD sends you about it. That's the DE 8405 notice. Missing that step can pause your payments even if your eligibility question gets resolved. First time I filed I didn't know CalJOBS was separate from EDD and almost missed the deadline.

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Aisha Ali

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Wait CalJOBS is different from myEDD? I thought it was all one system.

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Yeah totally separate. myEDD is where you manage your claim and certify. CalJOBS is the state job search system where you have to have a profile and resume posted. EDD will send you the notice about whether you need to do it.

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Worth knowing - EDD tells you if you're exempt from the CalJOBS requirement. Not everyone has to do it. But the notice will specify.

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The certification piece is what trips people up after they get through the application stage. Every two weeks you log into UI Online and certify - answer questions about whether you worked, whether you were able and available to work, whether you looked for work. EDD doesn't publish a specific number of jobs you need to apply to but you should be actively job searching each week you certify and keep notes on where you applied just as a habit. If your claim gets approved and you're not certifying you don't get paid, so set a calendar reminder for that every two weeks.

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Aisha Ali

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Is there a specific day I have to certify or just within the two week window?

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You can certify any day once the two-week period opens up. Online is fastest. You can also call EDD Tele-Cert at 1-866-333-4606 if you don't want to do it online.

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Certifying online through UI Online does tend to get payments posted pretty quickly, often within a day of certifying. Direct deposit is an option too through your myEDD settings.

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Nobody warned me about the waiting week when I filed my first claim. The very first week is an unpaid waiting period - that's just how California unemployment works. So your first certification usually covers the waiting week plus one paid week. It doesn't eat into your total benefits though, the 26 weeks you can collect isn't reduced by it. Just want you to have realistic expectations on when that first payment actually comes in.

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Aisha Ali

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So I basically wait two weeks before I even certify the first time, and then of those two weeks only one is paid? Did I get that right?

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Pretty much yes. And then it takes a few days after certifying for the payment to process. So realistically you're looking at about three weeks from when you apply before money comes in. Plan accordingly.

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That three-week gap is brutal when you've just lost a job. CalFresh might help bridge it - you can apply at BenefitsCal and unemployment benefits count as income for eligibility purposes.

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The employment paperwork saying 'attendance related termination' - that phrase itself doesn't decide anything at EDD. What EDD actually looks at is whether what you did was something that showed you just didn't care about keeping the job or was intentionally harmful to your employer. Missing shifts because the schedule kept changing last minute with kids to coordinate around is a genuinely different situation than just refusing to show up. Your job in the interview is to explain that reality clearly and calmly. Write down a rough timeline of when the schedule changes happened before the interview so your answers are specific.

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Aisha Ali

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The timeline idea is really smart. I'm going to put together dates and what happened each time before the interview. I have the texts from my supervisor that show when he'd message me about changes.

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Perfect. And if you do get a denial, don't just accept it. The appeal process exists for a reason and what you're describing sounds like a situation worth fighting for. Appeal within 30 days of the mailing date on the denial notice using the DE 1000M form that comes with it.

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Appeals go to a hearing in front of an administrative law judge where you can testify and explain everything. It's more formal but very much worth doing if the initial decision goes against you.

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fired for attendance here too last year from a call center job. i just wanna say the phone interview was not as scary as i thought it would be. the lady was polite and just asked me questions about my attendance, what was going on, did my manager know about my situation. i explained and she said edd would send a decision by mail. got approved. so just apply and do the interview and see what happens

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Aisha Ali

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Really needed to hear this, thank you. I've been psyching myself out about the interview.

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it's really just them asking what happened. be honest and calm and explain your side. that's it

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EDD pays between $40 and $450 a week depending on your base period wages. There's a calculator on edd.ca.gov that estimates your weekly amount before you even apply - worth checking so you have a ballpark for budgeting while you wait for the actual DE 429Z to come in the mail showing your real number.

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Aisha Ali

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I just checked the calculator and it looks like I'd be around $310 a week if I get approved. That's workable. Way better than nothing while I look for another job.

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The calculator is pretty accurate in my experience. The official number on the DE 429Z was within $10 of what the calculator showed me.

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And remember $450 is the max weekly amount. Some people see $450 on threads and think that's what they'll get but it depends entirely on your highest earning quarter in the base period.

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Something that tripped me up when I got fired from my restaurant job: I kept waiting for some kind of approval letter saying I was definitely approved. That letter doesn't actually come. If EDD decides you qualify they just process your certified weeks and the money shows up. You only get a Notice of Determination mailed to you if they're denying you or finding some issue. So don't panic if you don't get official confirmation mail - no news can actually be good news.

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Aisha Ali

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Oh wow I was absolutely going to wait for some kind of approval letter and then freak out when it didn't come. Really glad you said this.

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Yeah it's counterintuitive. The DE 429Z that comes early on tells you the potential weekly amount but that's not an approval of eligibility - it's just the wage calculation. Actual approval just shows up as payment.

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This confused me too on my first claim. The absence of a denial letter after your interview is actually a good sign.

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Still in the middle of my own fired-for-attendance situation but after I talked to the EDD agent through Claimyr I found out my CalJOBS registration had actually processed fine - that was what I called to check because my UI Online was showing pending for longer than I expected. The agent said to keep certifying and the pending status would resolve once the interview decision posted.

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Aisha Ali

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How long did your pending status last after the interview?

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Mine was about 11 days from the interview date to when it resolved. The agent said timelines vary but to keep certifying regardless so the weeks stay in the system.

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Pending weeks in Claim History just means EDD hasn't made the eligibility call yet or is still verifying something. As long as you keep certifying those weeks can be paid once the decision comes through.

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i think if u got fired ur just out of luck tbh, edd doesnt pay if ur fired right? my cousin said u have to quit to get unemployment

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That's actually backwards from how it works. Quitting is harder because you have to show you had a good reason to leave. When you're fired, your employer is the one who has to demonstrate to EDD that there was actual misconduct. Neither situation is automatic approval or denial - EDD decides after talking to both sides.

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oh damn i had no idea. i thought quitting was the only way to get it

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Really common misconception. Plenty of people who were fired collect unemployment. And plenty of people who quit get denied. The circumstances are what matter, not just which one happened.

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Benefits are taxable income at the federal level, just so you're aware going in. California doesn't tax them but the IRS does. When you certify you can choose to have 10 percent withheld for federal taxes so you don't get a surprise bill. EDD mails a 1099G every January and you can also find it in UI Online under Payments. Just something to factor into your budgeting.

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Aisha Ali

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Good to know - I'll probably do the withholding since I don't want a tax surprise on top of everything else.

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Same, I always check the withholding box. Better to get slightly less each payment than owe in April.

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10 percent is the only withholding option EDD offers so if you want a different amount set aside you'd have to handle that yourself separately.

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For anyone reading this later who's also been fired and is wondering about the appeal process if EDD says no - the Appeal Form DE 1000M comes with the denial notice. You mail it back within 30 calendar days of the mailing date on that notice, not the date you received it. A late appeal needs you to explain why you missed the deadline. After that it goes to an administrative law judge hearing at the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board. You can represent yourself, bring a union rep, or have an attorney. Keep certifying through the whole process.

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Aisha Ali

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30 days from the mailing date - got it. And I should keep certifying even if I appeal, right? Even if weeks keep showing pending?

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Absolutely keep certifying. EDD can only pay back weeks that were certified. If you stop certifying during an appeal and win, those uncertified weeks are gone.

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The 'keep certifying no matter what' rule is probably the most important thing in this whole thread. So many people stop when they get a denial because they think it's pointless. It's not.

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My firing from a logistics company two months ago was listed as 'repeated policy violations' on the termination form. EDD still sent me the DE 4800 scheduling an interview, so the process was the same regardless of what the form said. Used Claimyr to get through to EDD when I had questions about what documents I'd need to reference during the interview - the agent told me the interview is verbal and I didn't need to send anything in advance, just be ready to describe what happened clearly.

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Aisha Ali

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Did you end up getting approved after the interview?

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Still waiting on the decision but the agent said to watch for it in the mail and that my certifications were processing fine in the meantime. Feeling cautiously okay about it.

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The fact that the interview happened and certifications are processing is a good sign. Sometimes the decision takes a couple of weeks to show up.

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If you're going to call EDD directly the number is 1-800-300-5616, Monday through Friday 8 to 5 Pacific. Live chat is also available through the Help button in UI Online on weekdays 9 to 2. Those are honestly your best options for getting a human if you have questions that UI Online can't answer. If you send a message through your UI Online account that works too but can take longer to get a response.

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Aisha Ali

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Has anyone had luck actually getting through on the phone? I've heard it's really hard to reach a live person.

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It depends on the time of day. Early in the morning right when they open tends to have shorter waits. Middle of the day on a Monday is brutal.

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The live chat through UI Online has been more reliable for me than the phone line during busy periods. Worth trying if you're logged in and need a quick answer.

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Went through the fired situation last year from a retail management job. What helped me most was writing out exactly what I wanted to say in the phone interview before it happened. Like literally scripted my answer to 'why were you let go' so I didn't freeze up and ramble. EDD's interview is pretty structured - they go through specific questions - but having your thoughts organized beforehand makes a real difference in staying calm and clear.

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Aisha Ali

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This is practical advice I can actually use. I tend to ramble when I'm nervous so having notes is a good idea.

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Also write down any specific incidents that support your side. Dates, what happened, who was there. Even if the interviewer doesn't ask for that level of detail, having it organized helps you sound confident and specific.

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Specific details make a big difference. 'The schedule changed and I couldn't always make it' is less compelling than 'On March 4th my supervisor texted me at 7pm to change my 8am shift the next morning and I had no childcare for that time.

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Aisha Ali

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That's exactly the kind of situation I had happening repeatedly. I need to go through my texts and write this all down.

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One more thing on the fired question from the top - EDD has a whole process and they genuinely do hear both sides. After my termination from a food distribution company for what my employer called 'repeated tardiness,' I had no idea what to expect. The agent at EDD during the interview asked me specifically whether I had notified my employer about the reasons I was late, whether the employer had given warnings, and whether anything outside my control caused the tardiness. So be ready for detailed questions like that. It's not just 'were you fired, yes or no.

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Aisha Ali

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This is exactly what I needed to know to prepare. The interview isn't just confirming what the paperwork says, it's actually getting into what happened.

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Right. And they ask the employer those same kinds of questions separately. EDD is basically trying to piece together the real story from both sides before they make a call.

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The 'did you notify your employer about what was going on' question is really common from what I've seen. If you communicated with your supervisor at all about the schedule changes, that's going to matter.

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