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Libby Hassan

How will unemployment know if I work while collecting California EDD benefits?

So I got laid off from my warehouse job about six weeks ago and I've been collecting unemployment. My cousin offered me some shifts doing deliveries for his small business - nothing regular, just maybe one or two days a week when he's slammed. The money would really help but I'm honestly scared to mess up my claim. How will unemployment know if I work those shifts? Like does EDD actually track this stuff or is it just on the honor system? I don't want to lose my benefits over something I didn't understand correctly.

Delivery shifts through your cousin's business - EDD absolutely has ways to find out about work like that. Every employer in California has to report new hires to the state, and your cousin's business would be doing that if he puts you on even as a part-time worker. EDD also cross-checks wage records with the Employment Development Department's own database every quarter. Beyond that, random audits happen. The good news though is that working a few shifts a week doesn't have to blow up your claim at all - you just have to report it correctly when you certify. EDD takes your gross earnings for the week they were earned (not when you get paid), and the first $25 or 25% of what you made - whichever is bigger - doesn't count against you. The rest gets subtracted from your weekly benefit amount. So if your weekly benefit is, say, $380 and you earn $200 on a Saturday delivery run, you keep $250 from EDD plus your $200 from work. That's actually more money total than just the $380 alone. The thing that kills your payment for a whole week is working full-time, whatever you earn. Part-time is totally fine as long as you report it. Report it in UI Online under Report Wages before you certify that week. I got laid off from a distribution center last spring and worked some gig stuff on the side - called EDD at 1-800-300-5616 to confirm how wages worked before I started anything, got it figured out pretty quickly. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an actual agent since the hold times were brutal - there's a video they have on reaching a live person at EDD by phone at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent confirmed the gross earnings for the week earned, not the pay date, is what matters. Report it right and you're fine.

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Wait so if I earn $200 doing deliveries EDD actually pays me LESS than $380 that week? How does that work out to more money?

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The math: $200 earned, the 25% exemption is $50 (bigger than the flat $25), so $150 gets subtracted from your $380 weekly benefit. EDD pays $230. Add your $200 earnings and you have $430 total. Without working you'd have $380. Working part-time puts more money in your pocket.

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This is the clearest explanation of the earnings formula I've seen on here. The 25% exemption thing confused me for weeks.

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does the 25 or 25% thing change based on what your weekly benefit amount is or is it always just on the earnings side

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Quarterly wage reports are the main thing people don't realize. Your cousin files taxes and pays payroll taxes, right? Those go to the state. EDD sees that. Even cash payments catch up with people eventually if the employer is reporting correctly on their end. The safest move is always just to report it - hiding it is genuinely not worth the risk because an overpayment that EDD finds later means paying everything back, and if they think you did it on purpose there's a penalty on top.

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What if my cousin just pays me cash and doesn't formally put me on payroll? I'm not asking to do anything shady I'm just wondering how that changes things.

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Legally you're still supposed to report cash wages. And if your cousin's business ever gets audited for any reason, those cash payments could surface. The overpayment risk isn't worth it - report what you earn.

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yeah cash doesn't mean invisible, it just means you're the only honest party at risk if anything comes up later

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Missed reporting some part-time work on my certification last year - not on purpose, I just got confused about the week it was earned vs the week I got paid. EDD flagged it and sent me a Notice of Overpayment. Had to pay back about $310. It wasn't fraud so there was no penalty, just the repayment, but it was a stressful few weeks. Report everything when you certify, even small amounts.

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That's actually really helpful to hear. How did EDD catch it - was it the quarterly wage thing?

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EDD didn't tell me exactly how they caught it, just that the wages I reported didn't match what was in their records for that week. I think it was the quarterly report from the employer.

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this is why the "week it was earned" rule matters so much - people report the week they got the check and then it doesn't match what the employer filed

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DE 1101CZ is what EDD sends your employer when you file - they're already in the loop from day one. So even if you never mentioned working for your cousin, the moment he employs you officially, EDD has a trail. The notification system goes both ways.

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I didn't know EDD notified the employer when you file a claim. Does that mean my old job knows I filed?

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Your last employer gets the notice, yes. That's how EDD gets both sides of the story when there's any question about why you stopped working. It's standard.

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So EDD already notified my old warehouse - that's wild, I had no idea.

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Honestly the question isn't really whether EDD will find out, it's whether you're reporting correctly so there's nothing TO find out. I did food delivery for three months while on UI and reported every dollar. Never had an issue. The UI benefit was reduced by my earnings but I still came out ahead every week. Just keep track of what you earn in the week you work, not when the app or your cousin pays you.

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How did you keep track of which week you earned what when sometimes apps pay out on a weird schedule?

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For gig stuff I kept a simple note on my phone - date worked, hours, what I estimated I'd earn. Then when I certified I used the Report Wages tool in UI Online before submitting. Made it easy.

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The Report Wages option in UI Online is specifically for this - you enter wages before certifying and it tracks the week they were earned. Really underused feature.

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Something my adjudication was held up over last year was unreported wages from a one-day gig I forgot about. Seemed minor but EDD flagged it. Got the whole thing sorted eventually but it delayed payments for almost a month. Not trying to scare you, just saying EDD's systems are more connected than most people assume.

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A one-day gig caused a month delay? That seems really harsh for an honest mistake.

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It wasn't a full month of no money, just that specific period was held up while they investigated. I called in, explained it was a reporting error, and they resolved it. Annoying but survivable.

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the word adjudication gets thrown around a lot - for people who don't know, it basically means EDD is reviewing something about your eligibility before they pay that period

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Report Wages in UI Online is different from what you fill out when you certify - someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think Report Wages is kind of a preview tool you can use before you certify to see how earnings affect your payment amount? Then when you actually certify you're answering the real questions about work and earnings.

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Mostly right - Report Wages lets you enter what you earned before certifying so the numbers are ready. It doesn't lock anything in until you actually certify. It doesn't fix a week that's already been certified wrong though - for that you'd need to contact EDD directly.

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ok good I wasn't totally off. I always do Report Wages first then certify right after so it's fresh in my head

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Wait does anyone know if the 25% exemption applies to self-employment income too? Like if you're doing something independently rather than through an employer?

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Self-employment income is on the list of things to report when you certify too. The same earnings formula applies. What counts as your wages for self-employment purposes - like whether it's gross revenue or profit - is something to verify directly with EDD because the specifics can depend on your situation.

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okay that's what I figured, I'll ask EDD when I call. thanks

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I reported self employment income last year and EDD just asked me to report gross earnings for the week, same as any other work. But yeah confirming with an agent is the right call for your specific setup

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EDD does audits, they cross-check with IRS wage data, state tax records, the new hire reporting system - there are multiple layers. I work in HR and we get the new hire reporting requirement on our end, every employer in California is required to report new employees to the state within 20 days of their start date. If your cousin puts you on as even a part-time employee, that report goes to the state, and that feeds into EDD's data.

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20 days - so there's not like a huge gap where I could work and nothing would happen?

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No real gap. And even if there were, the quarterly wage filing catches everything eventually. EDD has time to find discrepancies.

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the quarterly wage reporting thing is what caught an old roommate of mine - he worked a few weeks of part time, figured it was too small to matter, and EDD sent him an overpayment notice about four months later

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Vacation pay, holiday pay, bonuses - all of that goes on the report too when you certify. People forget about those. If your cousin gives you a holiday bonus or pays you for a day you didn't work, it still gets reported for the week it relates to.

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Good point I hadn't thought about stuff like that. It's just delivery shifts for now but good to know.

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EDD's list of reportable income is actually pretty long. When in doubt, report it. The penalty for underreporting is way worse than getting a slightly lower payment one week.

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The certification questions about work are pretty direct - they ask if you worked, they ask what you earned, and they ask the week. If you answer those honestly you're doing your job. EDD's systems do the verification on the backend. Your part is just the honest reporting.

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Are the certification questions like a quiz where there are right and wrong answers they're checking, or is it more like a form?

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More like a form with specific yes/no questions followed by number boxes. It's not a trick, it's just asking you to report accurately.

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the questions feel a little intimidating the first time you do them but once you go through it once it's just routine

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EDD cross-referencing is real - my situation was a little different, I had some freelance design work that I reported but apparently got the week wrong. The amount matched but EDD flagged it because the week I reported didn't line up with what my client's tax filing showed. Had to send in some documentation to clear it up. Not catastrophic but time consuming. The lesson was to double-check the week the work was actually done vs when any payment came through.

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How long did it take to clear up once you sent the documentation?

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About three weeks from when I sent it in to when my payments were released for that period. It was frustrating but EDD did resolve it.

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documentation situations like this are why keeping your own records of when you work is so valuable - dates, hours, what you earned - even just in your notes app

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DE 1101CZ notice to employers, quarterly wage cross-checks, new hire reporting - the picture EDD gets of what people earn is actually pretty complete. I used to think UI was just on the honor system and nobody would know. It's really not. That said, working part-time is totally legitimate and EDD expects claimants to work if they can, it doesn't stop your claim.

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EDD expects people to work while collecting? I thought the whole point was you're supposed to be unemployed?

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You need to be available and looking for full-time work, but part-time work while you're on UI is fine. You just report it and your benefit adjusts. EDD doesn't want people to turn down part-time work to stay on UI.

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right, the goal of UI is to bridge the gap while you find full-time work, not to make you refuse any shift that comes along

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Payroll taxes catch everything eventually. Even small employers have to file. I work part-time retail while on UI - been doing it for two months, report every shift, no issues at all. The only difference is my benefit is a bit lower those weeks, which makes sense.

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So you're actively doing this right now and it's working fine? That's actually reassuring.

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Yep. I actually called EDD early on to double-check I was doing it right. The agent confirmed the gross earnings for the week earned is what I report. As long as I'm still available and looking for full-time work, the part-time retail doesn't affect my eligibility at all.

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Pension income is also on the reportable list, and Social Security is NOT - that's a thing people mix up sometimes. Social Security doesn't get deducted from your UI and you don't report it when you certify. But wages, tips, self-employment, severance if your old job paid it, workers' comp - all reportable.

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wait really social security doesn't affect UI? I always assumed it did

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Nope, social security benefits don't reduce your UI payment and you don't report them when you certify. Pension income from past work might reduce it though, and EDD decides how much.

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To be precise - Social Security benefits aren't deducted from unemployment and aren't reported when certifying. That's correct per EDD's own guidelines. Good call catching that distinction.

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Pensions that come from a previous employer might reduce your benefit, but EDD decides the amount. Someone at my AJCC workshop brought this up and the presenter said to contact EDD directly because how it's calculated depends on the specifics. Just flagging it since someone above mentioned pension.

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Yeah that's why I said EDD decides how much on the pension side. Didn't want to put a number on it because it varies.

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Makes sense. The presenter at the workshop also emphasized the work search requirement - even if you're doing some part-time shifts you still have to be actively looking for full-time work and keeping track of your search activity.

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I've been doing my work search activities, that part I knew about. It's just the reporting of earnings that was confusing me.

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CalJOBS registration is separate from the earnings reporting question but worth mentioning - most people have to register in CalJOBS and get a resume posted within 21 days of when EDD sends them the notice about it. Missing that can stop your payments even if you're certifying correctly. If you got a Notice of Requirement to Register for Work (DE 8405), that's the one with your deadline.

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I did get that notice and I registered already. Good call flagging it though.

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Good. A lot of people miss that deadline because they think UI Online certifying is all they need to do. CalJOBS is a separate system at caljobs.ca.gov.

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the CalJOBS requirement tripped me up my first claim - I didn't know it existed and it paused my payments for a week while EDD sorted it out

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Severance pay situation from my last layoff - my company paid out a month of severance and I wasn't sure whether to report it or when. Asked EDD and ended up talking to an agent through Claimyr to get a straight answer because the online info was confusing me. The agent explained that severance paid under a company policy isn't wages for UI purposes, so it doesn't deny your claim, but EDD still wants you to report it on the certification as asked. The agent said to put it in for the week that applied to it. My claim went through without any issues after that.

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So severance is different from regular wages in terms of how it affects the claim?

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The agent explained it as: severance under a company plan or policy doesn't block your claim or get subtracted the same way wages do, but you still answer the certification question honestly. EDD handles it from there.

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this matches what I've seen in HR - severance under a written policy is treated differently from regular wages, though the claimant still answers the certification truthfully and EDD sorts the technical side

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EDD's system also gets tipped off when your old employer contests a week or questions your hours - if any employer you've worked for during your benefit year reports wages to the state that don't match what you certified, that flags a review. It's not just the main audit cycle, it can be triggered by a single employer filing.

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By 'employer' do you mean my old warehouse job or any employer I work for while on UI?

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Any employer in your base period or during the current benefit year. The quarterly wage filing from your cousin's business would be in that window.

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This is the thing people don't consider - it's not just a single check at the end. The employer filings roll in on their own schedule and EDD compares them to certifications on an ongoing basis.

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Form 1099G at the end of the year is also worth knowing about - that's the tax form EDD sends showing what you collected in UI benefits. It's federal taxable income. If there's a gap between what 1099G shows you got and what you think you got, that can surface questions. Available in UI Online under Payments, then Form 1099G.

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California taxes UI benefits too or just federal?

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Just federal. California doesn't tax unemployment benefits, which is one small mercy. The 1099G is for your federal return only.

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i always forget that california doesn't tax UI, that's genuinely one of the better things about filing here

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Part-time delivery work like you're describing is probably one of the most common situations people ask about. Tons of people do exactly this. As long as it's not full-time and you report it, your claim continues. The UI system is literally designed to work this way during a job search.

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Okay this whole thread has been really helpful. So to summarize what I'm hearing: report what I earn for the week I do the work, not when I get paid, report it when I certify, and EDD adjusts my payment. And EDD has multiple ways to verify this through employer filings and wage records.

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That's exactly it. And keep being available for full-time work and doing your work search. The delivery shifts don't have to stop your job search, they just supplement your income while you look.

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Good summary. The 25% exemption means part-time work actually puts more in your pocket than just sitting on UI alone. Report it accurately and you're in good shape.

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Also worth remembering: Claimyr got through for the person above on a severance question - if you have a specific scenario that the online info doesn't answer clearly, talking to an EDD agent directly is always the right call. The phone number is 1-800-300-5616, weekdays 8 to 5.

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