How to calculate unemployment tax in California EDD - what employers and claimants need to know
I've been going back and forth trying to figure out how unemployment tax actually gets calculated in California. I'm a small business owner who recently had to let go of two employees due to slow season, and now I'm trying to understand what I owe to California EDD in terms of unemployment insurance taxes. I keep seeing terms like FUTA, SUTA, SUI, SDI, and ETT thrown around and I genuinely can't figure out which ones apply to me versus what the employees deal with when they file their unemployment claims. My accountant is on vacation and I can't wait three weeks for answers. Can someone break this down in plain English? Like how does California EDD actually figure out what rate an employer pays, and does any of this affect how much a laid-off employee can collect?
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Alejandro Castro
Okay so there are really two separate tax questions here and I think you might be mixing them up a little. There's what YOU pay as an employer to fund the unemployment system, and there's the totally separate question of whether unemployment BENEFITS are taxable income to the person receiving them. Let me try to break both down. On the employer side, California employers pay into the UI (unemployment insurance) fund through the State Unemployment Insurance tax, sometimes called SUI or SUTA. Your rate depends on your 'experience rating' - basically how many of your former employees have collected UI benefits. New employers start at a default rate of 3.4% on the first $7,000 of each employee's wages. That $7,000 is called the taxable wage base. After a few years, California EDD recalculates your rate based on your actual claims history. Rates can range from 1.5% all the way up to 6.2% for employers with a lot of former claimants. You also pay Employment Training Tax (ETT) at 0.1% on the same $7,000 wage base, plus the SDI (State Disability Insurance) is actually withheld FROM employees, not paid by employers directly. On the federal side, FUTA applies - that's 6% on the first $7,000 but California employers typically get a 5.4% credit making the effective FUTA rate just 0.6% if you're current on your state taxes. As for whether unemployment benefits are taxable to the person receiving them - YES, they are taxable as regular income at both federal and California state level.
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorThis is incredibly helpful, thank you. So just to confirm - as a new employer in California my starting UI rate is 3.4% on the first $7,000 of wages per employee? So for two employees that's $7,000 x 2 x 3.4% = $476 per year to California EDD for UI alone?
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Alejandro Castro
That math is exactly right for the UI portion. Don't forget to add ETT at 0.1% on top, so another $14 total for two employees. And then FUTA separately at the federal level. Your California EDD e-Services for Business account will show your current rates and what's been reported.
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Monique Byrd
wait is the $7000 wage base per calendar year or per quarter?? My accountant told me something different
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Alejandro Castro
It's per calendar year per employee. So once you've paid wages of $7,000 to a single employee in that tax year, you stop calculating UI and ETT on that employee's wages for the rest of the year. Quarters are just how you report and remit the payments to California EDD.
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Jackie Martinez
I went through something similar last year when I had my first layoff situation. The thing that confused me the most was the experience rating system. California EDD looks at what's called your 'reserve account' - basically your tax contributions minus any benefits paid out to your former employees. If former workers collect a lot of UI benefits, your reserve account goes negative and your rate goes UP. If nobody collects or they collect very little, your rate can go DOWN over time. The annual rate notice California EDD sends out every December or January tells you your new rate for the upcoming year. Make sure you're watching for that because it directly affects your payroll costs.
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorSo if these two employees I just laid off collect unemployment benefits, my rate could go up next year? How significant is the increase usually?
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Jackie Martinez
It depends on your total payroll vs how much they collect. The formula is complicated but generally speaking for a small employer, one significant claim can bump you up a rate category or two. California EDD has a benefit charges statement they send out showing exactly what was charged to your account.
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Lia Quinn
yep happened to me went from 2.1% to 4.8% after one employee collected for like 6 months it was brutal
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorWow that's a big jump. Is there anything I can do to prevent it or appeal it?
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Haley Stokes
Since you're having trouble getting answers and your accountant is out, I want to mention something that helped me when I had urgent California EDD questions as an employer. I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) to actually get through to a live California EDD representative on the phone. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - basically it holds your place in the call queue so you don't have to spend hours redialing. I know it sounds like it's just for claimants but it worked for my employer account questions too. The rep I reached was able to walk me through my rate calculation and explain my benefit charge statement in about 15 minutes. When you're trying to do payroll and reconcile taxes, waiting weeks for answers isn't really an option.
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorOh interesting, I didn't know there was a way to actually get through to someone. I've tried the California EDD employer line twice and gave up after being on hold forever.
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Asher Levin
I've heard of Claimyr but thought it was only for people claiming benefits not employers. Good to know it works for the employer side too
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Haley Stokes
Yeah I was surprised it worked for employer account questions. The California EDD employer services line is just as hard to reach as the claimant line honestly. Having someone else manage the hold queue while I went about my day was a lifesaver.
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Serene Snow
does it actually work or is it one of those things that sounds too good lol
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Issac Nightingale
just wanted to add - dont forget california is one of the states where EMPLOYEES pay into SDI (state disability insurance) thats withheld from paychecks. the rate changes every year. as an employer ur job is to withhold it correctly and remit it, not to pay it yourself. lot of small biz owners get confused and think SDI is an employer cost but its really the workers contribution
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorRight yes my payroll software handles the SDI withholding but I wasn't sure if I as the employer also had a matching contribution for that specifically
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Issac Nightingale
nope SDI is employee-side only. UI and ETT are employer-side only. thats the split in california
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Alejandro Castro
Correct. Though worth noting that SDI also funds Paid Family Leave (PFL) in California which employees access separately from unemployment. Different program entirely but funded through the same SDI withholding.
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Romeo Barrett
I want to make sure I understand the claimant side too since I'm currently collecting unemployment and someone told me I have to pay taxes on what I receive. How much do I actually owe? Like does California EDD withhold taxes automatically or do I get a bill at the end of the year?
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Alejandro Castro
You'll receive a 1099-G form from California EDD showing your total benefit payments for the year. Federal taxes: yes, unemployment benefits are fully taxable as ordinary income at the federal level. California state taxes: California actually exempts unemployment benefits from state income tax - so you only owe federal, not state, on your UI benefits. You can request voluntary withholding of 10% for federal taxes when you set up or update your claim, which many people do to avoid a surprise tax bill.
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Romeo Barrett
Oh wait California doesn't tax unemployment benefits? I had no idea. I've been worried about owing state taxes too. That's actually a relief.
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Marina Hendrix
Same I didn't know this!! I've been setting aside money thinking I'd owe California too. Good to know
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Alejandro Castro
Yep California is one of the more claimant-friendly states on this. No state income tax on unemployment benefits. Just make sure you handle the federal piece - the 10% voluntary withholding option is on your UI Online account settings.
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Justin Trejo
can someone explain FUTA vs SUTA like im in kindergarten because ive been running my small business for 3 years and i still dont totally understand which one goes where lol
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Jackie Martinez
Sure! FUTA = Federal Unemployment Tax Act = the tax you pay to the federal government. It goes into a federal fund that can help states when their own UI funds run low. Rate is 6% but you get a big credit (5.4%) for paying your state taxes on time, so most employers effectively pay just 0.6% to the feds. You file and pay FUTA on IRS Form 940. SUTA = State Unemployment Tax Act = same concept but at the state level. In California it's called SUI (State Unemployment Insurance). This is what you pay to California EDD. It funds the actual benefits your laid-off California employees collect. You report this on the DE 9 form and pay through California EDD's e-Services for Business portal. Both are calculated on the first $7,000 of each employee's wages per year (for FUTA and California SUI specifically - other states have different wage bases).
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Justin Trejo
oh my god why has no one explained it that simply before. thank you. so they're basically the same concept just federal vs state
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Jackie Martinez
Exactly! Both exist to fund unemployment benefits - federal as a backstop, state as the primary system. As a California employer you're paying into both but the state one is by far the bigger amount and more variable based on your experience rating.
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Alana Willis
I want to flag something that trips up a lot of employers - if your California EDD account falls into credit status (meaning the reserve account goes negative because your former employees collected more in benefits than you've paid in taxes), you can end up with a maximum rate that feels punishing for a small business. The maximum UI rate in California can reach 6.2% plus penalties in some situations. If you're ever in that situation, there are options - you can make a voluntary contribution to California EDD to improve your reserve account balance BEFORE the annual rate computation date (typically July 31 each year). This can sometimes lower your rate by more than the cost of the contribution. California EDD has info on this in their employer guide.
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorWait voluntary contributions to improve my reserve account? I've literally never heard of this. Is this something most small employers don't know about?
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Alana Willis
It's definitely underutilized. You'd want to run the math carefully - California EDD's employer guide walks through the calculation, or you can call their employer account line (with patience or a tool like Claimyr to get through) and ask them to calculate whether a voluntary contribution would lower your annual rate enough to pay off. It has to be done before July 31 to count for the next year's rate.
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorThis is genuinely one of the most useful things I've learned in this entire thread. I had no idea voluntary contributions were even a thing.
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Lia Quinn
i wish i had known this years ago could have saved thousands
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Serene Snow
Okay random question but how do they calculate how MUCH an unemployed person gets? Like the weekly benefit amount? Is that connected to the employer tax calculations somehow or totally separate?
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Alejandro Castro
Totally separate calculation. Your weekly benefit amount (WBA) as a claimant is based on your own wages during the base period - roughly the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. California EDD takes your highest earning quarter in that period and divides by 26 to get your WBA. The max WBA in California is adjusted periodically. The employer tax side funds the system overall but your individual benefit amount is purely determined by your own prior wages, not your employer's tax rate or anything like that.
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Serene Snow
Oh interesting so my benefit check has nothing to do with how much my old employer paid in UI taxes. It's just based on what I earned.
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Alejandro Castro
Correct. Even if your employer somehow paid zero in UI taxes (which would get them in trouble), you'd still be entitled to your calculated benefit amount if you meet the eligibility requirements. The two systems run in parallel.
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Asher Levin
Something nobody mentioned yet - if you're a sole proprietor or self-employed person in California, you cannot collect regular UI benefits and you also don't pay into the SUI system for yourself. You'd need to opt into SDI elective coverage separately if you want disability protection. There's no unemployment insurance option for the self-employed in the regular California EDD UI system. Just want to flag this because I see a lot of people confused about this.
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorGood point - I am technically an employer with employees so I do pay in. But I've had friends who freelance ask me if they can get unemployment and it never applies to them in the regular UI system.
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Asher Levin
Exactly. The self-employed have limited options through California EDD. SDI elective coverage is the main one. No UI equivalent for self-employed unfortunately.
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Tyler Murphy
this confused me so much when i first started freelancing i thought i was paying into unemployment for myself somehow lol nope
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Marina Hendrix
I'm currently collecting unemployment and I got really confused reading this thread because I thought my former employer could somehow contest my claim and make me pay taxes on more money or something?? Can employers do anything to affect my tax situation once I'm already approved and collecting?
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Alejandro Castro
No, your former employer cannot affect your tax situation once you're approved and collecting. The only thing an employer can do is contest your initial eligibility (for example if they claim you were fired for cause rather than laid off). But they cannot change your 1099-G or affect your tax obligations once benefits are approved and paid. Your tax situation is between you and the IRS/FTB - your employer isn't part of that equation on the claimant side.
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Marina Hendrix
Okay that's a relief. I was worried because I know my old employer wasn't happy about the claim. They can contest it but they already lost that - I was approved.
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Marina Hendrix
Also how do I access my 1099-G from California EDD when tax season comes? Do they mail it or do I have to log in to get it?
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Alejandro Castro
California EDD mails 1099-G forms by late January. You can also access it digitally through your UI Online account under 'Tax Documents' or something similar. If you had them issue payments to a debit card, the mailing address needs to be current. Log into myEDD and verify your address to be safe.
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Haley Stokes
Coming back to add - I did end up calling California EDD about my employer account rate question using Claimyr and it actually worked really well. The employer services team was able to explain exactly how my reserve account balance was calculated and confirm my UI rate for next year. If anyone else here needs to actually talk to a human at California EDD about tax rate questions, the voluntary contribution option, or benefit charges to their account, it's worth checking out claimyr.com - there's a walkthrough video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. These are the kinds of nuanced questions that really need a live person, not the website FAQ.
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorYeah I finally got through to someone yesterday using this and got my reserve account balance confirmed and learned I'm not far from being able to make a voluntary contribution before the July cutoff. Really glad I didn't wait for my accountant to get back.
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Monique Byrd
I've been skeptical of these phone services but tbh the California EDD employer line is basically impossible to get through on your own so at this point I'll try anything
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Jackie Martinez
The employer line really is terrible. I've called at 8am on the dot multiple times and still end up on hold for 90+ minutes. Anything that manages the queue for you is worth it when you have actual account questions.
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Sara Unger
random but does anyone know if unemployment tax payments to California EDD are deductible as a business expense? I feel like they should be but my old accountant never mentioned it
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Alejandro Castro
Yes, SUI taxes (and FUTA) paid by the employer are generally deductible as ordinary business expenses. The state UI taxes you pay to California EDD would typically be deducted on your federal Schedule C or as a payroll tax expense on your business return. Same for FUTA paid to the IRS. Worth confirming with your accountant for your specific business structure but in general these are deductible payroll tax expenses.
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Sara Unger
oh good! I feel like my old accountant missed a lot of deductions. definitely bringing this up with the new one
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Alana Willis
Yes always deductible. Along with SDI amounts you withhold and remit - those are a business cost even though they come from employee wages, you're still handling the tax compliance side so the associated admin costs and the actual remittance are legitimate business expenses.
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Serene Snow
sorry to keep asking questions but this thread is the most useful thing ive found on this topic. does the UI tax rate affect anything for the EMPLOYEE like does a high-rate employer affect the employees benefits somehow
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Jackie Martinez
No effect on the employee whatsoever. An employer could be paying the maximum UI rate and a former employee would still collect exactly the same weekly benefit amount as they'd get from a low-rate employer. The rate is entirely about the employer's own reserve account history - it doesn't flow to the claimant's benefit calculation at all.
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Serene Snow
Okay perfect. I wanted to make sure my old employer being constantly behind on their taxes or whatever doesn't somehow come back to bite me while I'm collecting.
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Jackie Martinez
It doesn't. California EDD protects the claimant side from employer compliance issues. Your approved benefits are your approved benefits regardless of what's happening on your employer's account.
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Asher Levin
This is one thing California actually does pretty well - the claimant isn't penalized for employer tax failures. The employer faces penalties and interest but the employees can still collect what they're entitled to.
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Tyler Murphy
I got a notice from California EDD saying I have to repay some unemployment benefits i received but this thread is about tax calculation so maybe not the right place but does anyone know if repaid benefits affect my 1099-G? like do I owe taxes on money I had to give back
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Alejandro Castro
Actually a really important question. If you repaid benefits in the SAME tax year you received them, California EDD should issue a corrected 1099-G. If you repaid in a DIFFERENT year (like you received benefits in 2024 but are repaying in 2025), the tax treatment gets more complicated - generally you can take a deduction for the repayment in the year you repaid, but the original 1099-G for 2024 would still show the full amount. You'd want to document the repayment carefully for your tax records.
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Tyler Murphy
Oh this is actually super helpful. I received benefits in early 2024 and am repaying now in 2025. So my 2024 1099-G is what it is but I can potentially deduct the repayment on my 2025 return?
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Alejandro Castro
That's the general concept though exact treatment depends on the amount and whether it crosses certain thresholds. For larger overpayments there's actually a specific IRS provision (Section 1341) that can sometimes be more beneficial than a simple deduction. Definitely worth a conversation with a tax professional for this specific scenario.
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Marina Hendrix
I'm so glad someone asked this. I've been nervous about this exact situation.
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Monique Byrd
okay so im a new employer just starting my first year in california - what do i need to actually DO to register and start paying these taxes? like what is the actual process with california edd
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Alana Willis
You need to register as an employer with California EDD within 15 days of paying wages that exceed $100 in a calendar quarter. You register through the e-Services for Business portal on the California EDD website and get a California employer account number. Once registered you'll file DE 9 forms quarterly showing wages and calculating your UI and ETT contributions. If you also have employees subject to income tax withholding you'll file DE 9C (payroll tax deposit) returns. California EDD will mail you information about your assigned rate and your quarterly filing schedule after registration.
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Monique Byrd
wait do i have to register before i hire anyone or only after i start paying them
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Alana Willis
You register after you've paid wages that trigger the requirement - so once you've paid any employee more than $100 in a quarter. You don't pre-register before having employees. But you do need to act within 15 days once you hit that threshold.
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Issac Nightingale
also dont forget you still need to set up federal too - separate registration with IRS for FUTA and getting your EIN if you dont have one. california edd registration and federal registration are totally separate
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Maggie Martinez
I just want to update this thread since I started it - I finally got all my questions sorted out. Between the replies here and actually reaching California EDD by phone (used Claimyr as mentioned above - site is claimyr.com if anyone needs it, video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10), I now understand my UI tax rate situation completely. Turns out as a newer employer my rate is still at the 3.4% new employer default for one more year, and with the payroll volume I have, a voluntary contribution before July 31 isn't necessary this time but I'm bookmarking that strategy for if my rate ever increases after these former employees finish their claims. Thanks everyone - this thread was genuinely more educational than anything on the official California EDD site.
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Alejandro Castro
Glad it got resolved. The voluntary contribution strategy is a really underutilized tool for small California employers - good to have in your back pocket. Good luck with the business.
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Lia Quinn
glad this worked out! and yes claimyr was a lifesaver when i had my rate dispute last year, getting a live person at california edd is basically impossible without some help
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Jackie Martinez
Great outcome. The California EDD employer side of things is genuinely complex and the official resources don't do a great job explaining the experience rating system in plain language. Happy this thread helped.
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Haley Stokes
Perfect example of why actually talking to a California EDD rep makes such a difference on account-specific questions. Good luck this year!
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Marina Hendrix
One more question from me - I keep seeing ads for companies that say they can protest benefit charges to your account and lower your UI rate. Are these legitimate services or scams? Seems weird that third parties would be able to do anything about my California EDD employer account
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Alana Willis
These are generally called SUTA dumping services or unemployment cost management companies - they do legitimately exist and some businesses use them. They typically monitor your benefit charges, file timely appeals when former employees claim benefits under circumstances that might make them ineligible, and manage the administrative side of responding to California EDD claim notifications. For larger employers with significant turnover it can make sense. For a small employer with occasional layoffs it's probably more cost than it's worth.
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Marina Hendrix
Interesting. So they're basically making sure you fight claims where the employee might not be eligible? Like if someone quit vs was laid off?
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Alana Willis
Exactly. An employee who quit without good cause, was fired for misconduct, or left voluntarily generally shouldn't be eligible for UI benefits. These services make sure employers respond promptly to claim notifications and provide documentation in those cases. If you don't respond to California EDD's notification, the claim often gets approved by default even if it shouldn't be.
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Maggie Martinez
AuthorOkay this is another thing I had no idea about - that I need to respond to California EDD claim notifications at all. I thought it was automatic. So if I don't respond I might end up with benefit charges that increase my rate even for someone who quit voluntarily?
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Romeo Barrett
This thread made me realize I've been setting aside too little for federal taxes on my UI benefits. I requested 10% withholding but if my total income for the year including the weeks I worked before being laid off puts me in a higher bracket I might still owe a bunch right?
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Alejandro Castro
Yes exactly right. The 10% voluntary withholding option is just a flat rate - if your total income for the year puts you in a 22% or higher federal bracket, you'll owe the difference. The withholding is just to prevent a large one-time bill, not to necessarily cover everything. Worth running a quick tax estimate mid-year to see where you stand, especially if you were working at decent wages before the layoff.
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Romeo Barrett
Yeah I worked half the year at about $65k annualized pace so I probably need to be setting aside more than 10%. Thanks for the reality check.
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Alejandro Castro
Definitely. Many people in that situation should be setting aside more like 15-20% of their weekly benefit amount to cover federal taxes, depending on their other income and deductions. A quick check on the IRS withholding estimator tool can give you a better number for your specific situation.
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