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Ethan Moore

How long can you apply for unemployment after being fired - California EDD rules

So I got let go from my warehouse job about five weeks ago and I've just been frozen, honestly. I kept thinking I'd get called back or find something new fast, and neither happened. Now I'm sitting here wondering if I even waited too long to file for California EDD benefits. My last day was mid-October and I just never pulled the trigger on applying because I didn't think it would last this long. Does anyone know if there's actually a cutoff? Like is there a window after getting fired where you can still apply, or did I blow it by waiting five weeks?

Wait, did you already miss it? Five weeks feels like a long time but I think you're still okay? Not 100% sure on the exact deadline though

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That's kind of what I'm hoping but I genuinely don't know. I keep searching and getting different answers

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No hard cutoff for filing after being fired. The thing that changes is your benefit year start date - it starts the Sunday of the week you actually apply, so every week you wait is a week you can't get back. File today if you haven't yet

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Oh okay so there's no deadline but you lose money by waiting, that makes more sense

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Fired from my job in September and had the same hesitation. Honestly the week I finally filed through https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ I felt like a weight lifted. The claim just starts from whenever you apply - the Sunday of that week. You don't get the weeks you waited through, which stings, but you haven't closed any door by waiting five weeks. Get in there today.

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So I literally just lost five weeks of potential payments by waiting? Ugh that hurts to read

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Yeah unfortunately that's how it works. The sooner you file the sooner the clock starts. But going forward you're fine

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Same thing happened to me, waited like three weeks thinking I'd find something fast and just ate those weeks. File as soon as you lose the job from now on

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Termination date was October 3rd on my end, and getting answers from EDD about how the base period would apply to my specific situation was turning into a whole thing. Ended up talking to a live EDD agent through Claimyr (claimyr.com) - it handles the hold time so you end up speaking directly with someone at EDD. I asked the agent whether my wages from the quarter before I was fired would pull into the standard base period or whether I'd need the alternate, and she pulled up my record and walked me through exactly which four quarters EDD would look at and what my estimated weekly amount came out to. The video on reaching a live person at EDD is at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if the phone lines have been a wall for you.

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Base period is something I don't understand at all. Did the agent explain how they figure out which quarters count?

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She basically said EDD takes the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before the claim starts. So if you apply now in late November, it's not your most recent quarter - it goes back further. She showed me exactly which ones applied to my wages

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Good to know there's a way to actually reach someone. I've been trying the phone line and it's impossible

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Okay a few things worth knowing when you file after being fired. EDD reaches out to your last employer once you submit the claim - the employer gets a notice and has about 10 days to respond with their side of things. If there's a question about whether the firing involved misconduct, EDD schedules a phone interview with you to get your version. The burden is on the employer to show there was actual misconduct - if they can't, you're generally okay. File as soon as you can. Every week you wait is gone.

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Wait so my employer could fight my claim? I was fired for being late twice, is that going to count as misconduct?

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EDD makes that call after hearing both sides in the interview. Being late could go either way depending on what your employer says and what you say. The interview is your chance to give your side. Don't skip it - the notice they send you (called the DE 4800) has the time you need to be available for the interviewer to reach you

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My employer tried to say I was fired for misconduct and EDD still approved me after the interview. Just be honest and give them the full picture

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Okay that's reassuring, I was worried they could just say anything and EDD would believe them

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Five weeks is not too late at all. The only thing that changes is your start date. Here's what a lot of people don't realize though - even after you file, EDD takes roughly three weeks to process a new application and get the first payment out. So if you file today you might not see money for three-ish weeks. That's not something going wrong, that's just normal timing. Plan for that gap.

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Three weeks after filing before money comes? That's rough. So I'm looking at like eight total weeks without income by the time I see anything

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Pretty much, yeah. And there's also a waiting week built in - your very first eligible week doesn't get paid, it's kind of like a deductible. So the first check you get actually covers the waiting week plus one paid week

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Nobody tells you about the waiting week when you apply and then people freak out thinking something is wrong. It's normal

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I had no idea about the waiting week either. So first certification covers both of those?

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Exactly. First certification usually covers the unpaid waiting week and one paid week, so you get one week's worth on that first payment

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Can I ask something kind of related - does it matter how long you worked at the place that fired you? I was only there four months before they let me go and I'm not sure if I even have enough to qualify

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Length at that specific job isn't the main thing EDD looks at. They go back 18 months across all your employers in the base period. As long as you earned at least $1,300 in one of those quarters, you likely have a valid claim. If not, there's an alternate base period that uses your four most recent quarters instead

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Oh I worked somewhere else before that for like six months so those wages would count too?

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Yes, all your California employers in that 18-month window. EDD adds them all up. You'd see it on the DE 429Z they mail you after processing

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Okay that's way better than I thought, I was assuming it was only about the last job

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Something I want to flag for anyone reading this later - the weekly benefit amount comes from your highest-earning quarter in the base period, not an average of everything. So if you had one really good quarter and slower ones, that high quarter is what drives your weekly check. Runs anywhere from $40 to $450 a week in California. You can play with the Unemployment Benefit Calculator on EDD's site to get an estimate before the official DE 429Z shows up in the mail.

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$450 is the max? That seems low for California cost of living but okay

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It is what it is. The weekly amount is what it is, but EDD also has a list of other programs - CalFresh for food, Medi-Cal or Covered California for health insurance. Worth looking into while you're on UI

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450 a week doesn't go far in the Bay Area that's for sure

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Misconduct question real quick - someone above mentioned the employer has to prove misconduct. I read somewhere that if you're fired for performance reasons rather than like actual rule-breaking, that's not misconduct. Is that right?

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EDD's line is basically that misconduct is about deliberately doing something wrong, not just not being good at the job. Performance issues where you were trying but struggling is usually different from intentionally violating a policy. But EDD decides this case by case after the interview - nobody here can tell you your situation qualifies

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Got it. So I shouldn't assume I'll be denied just because they said the word fired

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Right. File and go through the process. The interview is there specifically so you can explain what happened

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What happens if you get fired and then get severance pay? Does that mess up when you can apply or how much you get?

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Severance doesn't block you from filing right away. EDD's rules say severance paid under a company plan isn't counted as wages for unemployment purposes, so it doesn't delay when you can start. That said, you do need to report it when you certify - EDD will figure out how it affects things from there

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Wait so I can file even while I'm still receiving severance payments?

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Yes, file as soon as you stop working. Don't wait on the severance. Report it honestly when you certify and let EDD sort out the numbers

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I made the mistake of waiting until my severance was done before filing and lost like a month of potential payments. File right away

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Are you registered in CalJOBS yet? After you file, most people have to register there and post a resume within 21 days of getting a notice called the DE 8405. If you miss that window your payments can get held up. It's caljobs.ca.gov and it's pretty straightforward - just make sure your profile is marked as active and your resume is posted

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I haven't even heard of CalJOBS before this, how do I know if I need to do it?

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EDD sends a notice telling you if you're required. It's the DE 8405. Most regular claimants do have to do it. When you get that notice just go set up your CalJOBS profile quickly - it doesn't have to be perfect, just active and with a resume up

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Does failing to do CalJOBS actually stop payments or is it just a suggestion? Because I haven't done it yet

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It can actually stop payments if EDD requires it and you don't do it in time. Don't skip it. Check if you got the DE 8405 in the mail

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My sister told me you only have like two weeks after being fired to file for unemployment, is that actually a rule?

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No two-week deadline, that's not a California EDD rule. What's true is that your benefit year starts the Sunday of the week you apply - so the sooner you file, the sooner you can collect. But there's no door that closes after two weeks or any other set number of days

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Okay good because I was worried for a second. So people can file months later?

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Technically yes, though obviously you'd be losing those weeks. Apply as soon as you know you're not going back to work

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Got it. Telling my sister she was wrong lol

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Phone line at 1-800-300-5616 was impossible all last week, been trying mornings and afternoons. Ended up using Claimyr to get through - had a question about whether my hours being cut before I was officially let go would count toward my wages, and the agent confirmed which weeks fell into my base period quarters and that my wages from those partial weeks would be included. Really needed to hear that directly from EDD before I filed.

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Hours cut before firing - that's exactly the kind of thing I'd worry about too. Good that you got a direct answer

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Yeah the agent walked through my specific quarters so I wasn't just guessing. Filed the same day after that call

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Does it work if you have a pretty specific wage question? That's my situation too

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If EDD denies you after the phone interview, don't just accept it. You get a Notice of Determination in the mail and there's an Appeal Form (DE 1000M) right with it. You have 30 days from the mailing date to appeal in writing. An administrative law judge handles the hearing, not EDD. You can represent yourself, bring documentation, give testimony. Worth doing if you think you were wrongly denied.

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Has anyone here actually won an appeal after being denied for a firing?

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Yes - me. Got denied initially, appealed it, and the judge sided with me after I brought in my written warnings showing the company had deviated from their own progressive discipline policy. It's real

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I didn't know an actual judge handles it, I thought it was just EDD reviewing their own decision

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Nope, it goes to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, completely separate from EDD. The notice of your hearing comes at least 10 days before it's scheduled

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Does anyone know how certifying works once you're approved? I keep hearing about it but I'm not clear on what you actually have to do

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Every two weeks you log into UI Online and answer a set of questions - basically confirming you were able to work, available for work, and looking for work during those weeks. You also report any money you earned. It's not complicated but you have to keep doing it or payments stop

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Every two weeks, got it. And if I work a little part-time somewhere I report that earnings?

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Yes, report whatever you earn in the week you earned it, not when you get paid. EDD has a formula where the first $25 or 25% of your gross earnings (whichever is higher) doesn't count against you, and the rest gets subtracted from your weekly amount. So working part-time doesn't necessarily kill your payment

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That's actually really helpful, I was afraid any work would just end my claim

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FIRED FROM MY JOB OF SIX YEARS and finding out five weeks later that I should have filed immediately is brutal honestly. OP you're not alone in not knowing this. Nobody teaches you any of this stuff

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Six years, that's rough. Hope you're getting somewhere with your claim

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Finally filed last week, still waiting to hear about the phone interview. The waiting is the worst part

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Something that tripped me up - when you get the DE 429Z in the mail after filing, that's not an approval letter. It just shows what your claim could pay weekly. Some people see it and think they're good to go without understanding EDD still has to decide eligibility, especially if there's a question about how you left the job. Keep your phone available once the interview is scheduled.

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So the DE 429Z shows up and I still might not be approved?

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Right. The notice just shows the potential weekly amount based on your wages. Eligibility is a separate question, especially for firings. The phone interview is where EDD gets your side of what happened

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This is a really important distinction that gets people confused. The DE 429Z existing doesn't mean you're getting paid, it means EDD processed your wage records

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Real question for people who got fired for something they actually did - did you just tell the truth in the interview and still get approved? I messed up at work and they let me go and I don't want to lie but I'm scared

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Tell the truth, all of it. EDD's standard for misconduct is pretty specific - it's about deliberately violating something you knew was a rule, not just making a mistake. A lot of people who made real errors still get approved because honest mistakes aren't the same as willful misconduct in EDD's eyes

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That actually makes me feel a lot better. I made a judgment error on a client account, nothing malicious

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That sounds like it could go either way and EDD will decide, but go into the interview prepared to explain what happened and that there was no intent to cause harm. That context matters

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Random thing I noticed - looked up the exact rule about how long a benefit year lasts and it's 52 weeks from when you file, not from when you stopped working. So if you wait two months to file, your year runs two months shorter into the future. Another reason to file fast.

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That's correct. The benefit year is 52 weeks starting from the Sunday of the week you apply. And once your benefit year ends you can't file a new California claim until it's over, so maximizing that window matters

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Every answer in this thread just confirms I should have filed five weeks ago. Lesson learned, filing today

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Filing today is the right move. Five weeks isn't forever but it's real money. Good luck

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My last question before filing - does EDD make you do some kind of work search every week? I've heard you have to prove you're looking for jobs

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You have to be able to work, available for work, and actively looking for work for every week you certify. EDD doesn't specify a certain number of applications you have to make - but keeping track of where you apply is smart in case anything comes up. It's just part of the certification questions

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So I certify every two weeks and answer questions about job searching, got it

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Exactly. And if you get into an approved training program through EDD at some point, you might not have to do the work search - but that's a separate thing to look into if school or retraining is on your radar

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Okay I think I finally understand the whole process now. This thread was actually really useful

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Last thing worth mentioning for anyone reading - EDD also does identity verification through ID.me when you file online. Some people get a request called the DE 1326C asking them to verify. If you get that notice don't ignore it, it'll hold up your whole claim until it's done.

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Had no idea about the ID.me thing. What does that involve?

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You create an account with ID.me, take a photo of your ID, and they confirm your identity and pass it to EDD. It's part of the online application process. If EDD can't verify you right away they mail the DE 1326C telling you to do it

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Got that letter and panicked thinking something was wrong with my claim. Turned out it was just the ID verification step

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Filing my claim today after reading all this. For what it's worth, used Claimyr last month on a different issue - my Claim History was showing weeks as Pending with no explanation after I'd already done the phone interview. Got through to an EDD agent who looked up my account and told me there was still an identity verification step sitting open from when I first applied, and once I completed that the pending weeks cleared within a couple days.

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Pending with no explanation is so stressful - glad you got an answer. I'll keep that in mind for when my claim starts

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Yeah the agent was straightforward about exactly what was holding things up. Way better than staring at Pending with no idea why

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