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Andre Dupont

How is unemployment measured and how does California EDD calculate your benefit amount?

I've been trying to wrap my head around how unemployment actually works behind the scenes - specifically how is unemployment measured and calculated when you file with California EDD. I lost my job at a logistics company about six weeks ago after being there for almost four years, and when I finally got my award letter the weekly benefit amount seemed lower than I expected. I did the math based on what I thought my wages were and something doesn't add up. I know EDD uses something called a base period to figure out how much you get, but I genuinely don't understand how they arrive at the final number. Do they look at all your wages from the past year? Just your highest earning quarter? And how does the overall unemployment rate even factor into what individual claimants receive? I've been reading the EDD website but honestly it reads like a legal document and I'm more confused than when I started. Any help explaining how the benefit calculation actually works would be really appreciated.

Great question and honestly something most people don't understand until they're actually in the system. So the way California EDD measures and calculates unemployment benefits is based on what's called the 'base period' - which is the 12-month period that covers the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed your claim. EDD takes your highest earning quarter within that base period and your weekly benefit amount ends up being roughly 60-70% of your average weekly wages during that high quarter, capped at the state maximum. For 2025 the max weekly benefit is $450. If your highest quarter earnings were say $12,000, your weekly benefit would be calculated from that. The reason it might feel lower than expected is if your recent wages were significantly higher than what you earned in that base period - EDD doesn't look at your most recent quarter in the standard base period.

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Okay that actually helps a lot - so if I got a raise in the last 8 months that wouldn't factor into my standard base period calculation at all? That might explain the discrepancy I'm seeing.

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Exactly right. Your most recent quarter before filing is actually excluded from the standard base period. However California does offer an 'alternate base period' option if your standard base period benefits would be lower - this uses the four most recently completed quarters. You'd need to contact EDD to request that calculation and see if it results in a higher benefit amount.

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Wait so they specifically exclude your most recent work?? That seems backwards. How is unemployment measured fairly if they don't count your current wages

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The broader question of how is unemployment measured at the macro level vs individual level is actually two very different things. At the state/national level, the unemployment rate is measured through monthly surveys - the Bureau of Labor Statistics counts people who are jobless, available to work, and actively looked for work in the past 4 weeks. But at the individual California EDD level it's completely separate - your personal benefit amount has nothing to do with the overall unemployment rate. Your WBA (weekly benefit amount) is purely based on your personal wage history in your base period. The unemployment rate affects things like extended benefits programs that kick in during high unemployment periods, but for your regular UI claim it doesn't directly change what you receive.

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I think I was confusing these two things. So the unemployment rate being high or low doesn't change my specific weekly payment from EDD?

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Correct - your weekly benefit amount is locked in based on your wages. The broader unemployment rate mainly matters for policy decisions and whether the state triggers extended benefit programs, not your individual claim amount.

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actually there IS one connection - during very high unemployment periods California can trigger extended benefits which gives you more weeks of eligibility, not more money per week tho

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yeah what they said ^^^ extended benefits are about duration not amount

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To add some practical context here - when I was trying to figure out my own benefit amount last year I called EDD like 15 times and couldn't get anyone on the phone. Kept getting the 'high call volume' message and getting disconnected. I finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that basically holds your place in line and calls you back when an EDD agent is available. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - honestly wish I'd found it sooner. The agent I eventually spoke with walked me through exactly how my base period was calculated and confirmed I was eligible for the alternate base period which increased my weekly amount by about $60. Sometimes you just need to talk to an actual human at EDD to get the calculation explained for your specific situation.

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I've been trying to get through to EDD on the phone too with zero luck. Going to check out that Claimyr link - did it take long to get connected to an agent?

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Honestly it was way faster than calling myself. I think I got a callback within a couple hours instead of sitting on hold for nothing. Definitely worth trying if you need to discuss your specific wage calculation with someone at EDD.

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seconding this, used claimyr last month when my claim was stuck. actually got to talk to someone which felt like a miracle at this point lol

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something nobody mentioned yet - california edd also has a minimum earnings requirement to even qualify. you need to have earned at least $1,300 in your highest base period quarter OR at least $900 in your highest quarter AND your total base period wages need to be at least 1.25 times your high quarter wages. just making sure you know you qualify before spending too much time trying to figure out the exact amount

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I definitely qualify - I worked full time for 4 years. But good info for others reading this thread.

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I didn't know about this requirement!! I was laid off from a part time job and am wondering if I qualify now. My highest quarter was probably only around $2,800 so I think I'm okay?

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$2,800 in your highest quarter should qualify you under the first threshold ($1,300 minimum). You'd want to verify your full base period wages to be sure but that sounds like you'd be fine.

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Can I just say HOW IS IT that a government agency in 2025 makes it this complicated to understand a basic benefit calculation?? I have a college degree and I still couldn't figure out my own benefit amount without spending like 4 hours reading. The EDD website explains how unemployment is measured in the most confusing way possible. Meanwhile I have bills due NOW and I'm over here trying to decode what a 'calendar quarter' means. The whole system is designed to be confusing so people give up and stop claiming what they're legally entitled to. Sorry for the rant but I genuinely think this is intentional.

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honestly not wrong though. my neighbor gave up on her claim because she couldn't figure out the process and just went back to work for less money. system wins again

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I understand the frustration and the system IS genuinely confusing, but there are good resources - EDD's DE 8714AB form breaks down the exact calculation formula pretty clearly once you know to look for it. The UI Online portal also shows your base period wages if you log in and check your claim details.

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I found that form eventually but only after hours of searching. They should literally put that link on the homepage. Anyway glad OP found some answers here at least

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Here's a concrete example to make the math more tangible since I went through this exact confusion. Let's say your quarterly wages in your base period were: Q1: $8,200, Q2: $11,500 (highest), Q3: $10,800, Q4: $9,600. EDD takes that highest quarter ($11,500) and divides by 13 weeks to get your average weekly wage ($884.62). Your weekly benefit amount would be approximately 60-70% of that which comes to roughly $530-$619, BUT since the max in California is $450, you'd be capped at $450. That's why people with higher salaries often feel like their benefit is way lower than expected - the maximum cap hits you pretty quickly.

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THIS is what I needed. So the cap is really what's limiting my benefit amount - I was a salaried employee making decent money so I'm probably hitting the ceiling. That explains the discrepancy I was seeing.

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Almost certainly if you were earning over roughly $35k annually you're hitting that $450 cap. One thing to note - California has been gradually increasing the max benefit amount over the years so it may go up, but for now $450 is the ceiling.

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wait the max is only $450 a week?? thats like $23k a year that seems really low for california costs of living

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Yeah it's a real issue. California's max benefit hasn't kept pace with actual wages and costs here. Some advocacy groups have been pushing to increase it but for now that's what we're working with.

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One thing worth knowing is that when EDD talks about how unemployment is measured for your claim, they're also looking at whether you were laid off versus quit or got fired for misconduct. The benefit calculation I see described above is only the first step - EDD also has to determine you're actually eligible, meaning you lost work through no fault of your own. If there's any question about your separation reason your claim goes into adjudication which can delay everything. Did you mention why you were laid off OP? Just want to make sure there's nothing that could complicate your claim beyond the calculation issue.

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I was laid off due to company downsizing - they eliminated my entire department. Got a formal layoff notice and everything. So I shouldn't have eligibility issues, just trying to understand the benefit amount.

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A formal layoff with documentation is the cleanest separation type for EDD purposes. You should be fine on eligibility - just the calculation questions you already have.

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just be careful how you phrase things on the initial claim. 'mutual agreement to separate' sounds different than 'laid off' to EDD even if the practical outcome was the same

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I work in HR and deal with unemployment claims from the employer side fairly often. To directly answer how unemployment is measured from the claim calculation perspective - a few things people often get wrong: 1) The base period calculation I see described here is correct 2) Your most recent quarter IS excluded from the standard calculation (but alternate base period exists) 3) The 60-70% replacement rate is an approximation - EDD uses a specific benefit table, not a simple percentage 4) Your claim amount is set at filing and doesn't change mid-claim even if circumstances change The EDD website has an online UI benefit calculator where you can enter your quarterly wages and see your estimated WBA before you even file. Might be worth running your actual numbers through that tool.

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I didn't know there was an official calculator on the EDD site! Going to find that right now. Thank you.

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It's under the 'File a UI Claim' section on edd.ca.gov - look for 'Estimate Your Benefits' or similar. It's not perfectly precise but it'll give you a good ballpark and help explain where your amount came from.

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the HR perspective is actually really useful here - do employers get notified every time you file a weekly claim or just when you first file?

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Employers get notification when the initial claim is filed and have an opportunity to respond with information about the separation. After that initial period they're generally not notified of each weekly certification unless there's a specific issue EDD asks them about.

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Been lurking this thread and just want to say this is the most useful explanation of how unemployment is measured and calculated that I've seen anywhere online. I've been on EDD benefits for 2 months and still didn't fully understand my own award letter until reading this. Bookmarking this whole thread.

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Same honestly - the people in this thread know way more than the EDD website explains. Really grateful for all the responses.

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the fact that random forum strangers explain this better than the actual government agency is very telling

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Something that confused me when I was figuring out my claim - the quarterly calendar EDD uses doesn't match the regular calendar year. EDD calendar quarters are: Q1 = Jan-Mar, Q2 = Apr-Jun, Q3 = Jul-Sep, Q4 = Oct-Dec. But your BASE PERIOD starts from the first day of the earliest complete quarter before you filed. So if you filed in March 2025, your standard base period would go back to October 2023 through September 2024 (skipping the most recent full quarter Oct-Dec 2024 and the current partial quarter). It tripped me up and I thought my wages weren't being counted correctly when they actually were.

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Oh wow this timeline thing is exactly what I was getting confused about. So my wages from the past several months literally do not count in the standard calculation at all?

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Correct - that's why so many people feel like their WBA is lower than expected. If you got a raise or promotion recently, those higher wages don't show up in your standard base period. That's when the alternate base period request becomes really valuable.

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This is such a good point. I remember spending like an hour thinking EDD made a mistake on my wages before I finally figured out the quarter timeline thing

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can someone explain the job search requirements while collecting? like I understand how is unemployment measured and calculated now from this thread but I'm also confused about what I have to DO to keep getting paid. My approval letter mentioned I need to look for work every week but doesn't say how many places or what counts

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California requires you to make at least three job search contacts per week to remain eligible for weekly benefits. Each contact needs to be recorded in your job search log - EDD can ask to see this at any time. Valid contacts include submitting applications, attending interviews, going to job fairs, or using a staffing agency. You certify that you completed these activities when you submit your weekly claim on UI Online.

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three per week, okay that's doable. Do I need to be applying to jobs in my exact same field or can I apply more broadly?

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You should be applying for work you're reasonably qualified for, but it doesn't have to be identical to your last job. EDD expects you to expand your search over time if you've been claiming for a while. Keep records of everything regardless.

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also standby status is a thing if your employer expects to bring you back - if you qualify for standby you're exempt from the job search requirements for up to 8 weeks. worth asking EDD about if applicable to your situation

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I went through the alternate base period process and it made a SIGNIFICANT difference for me. Standard base period calculation gave me $310/week. Alternate base period bumped me up to $390. Not life changing but an extra $80/week adds up over a full claim period. The tricky part is EDD doesn't automatically calculate both - you have to specifically request the alternate base period calculation and sometimes you have to be persistent about it. When I finally got through to an actual EDD rep (used Claimyr again because calling directly is basically impossible - claimyr.com if you need it) they were able to pull up both calculations right there on the call and process the alternate period request instantly.

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Really good to know EDD doesn't automatically do the alternate base period calculation - I would have assumed they'd give me the higher amount automatically. Going to request that specifically.

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Yeah definitely request it explicitly. And have your actual quarterly wage amounts handy when you call so you can do a quick sanity check with the agent.

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Does requesting the alternate base period delay your claim at all or does it get processed at the same time?

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In my experience it was processed same day when I called - the agent updated it right then and my next payment reflected the higher amount. No additional delay.

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Genuine question - I've seen some people say they just estimate their wages when filing because they don't have their pay stubs handy. Is that actually okay or does EDD verify everything against employer records anyway?

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EDD cross-references your reported wages against what employers report to the state through their payroll tax filings. If there's a significant discrepancy between what you claim and what your employer reported, it can trigger a review. I would strongly advise not estimating - get your actual W-2 or pay stubs. The consequences of a wage discrepancy can include an overpayment determination which is much worse than just filing a little late.

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okay yeah not worth the risk. Going to dig up my pay stubs before filing

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also your UI Online account actually shows your EDD-reported base period wages once your claim is processed, so you can verify their records match yours

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This thread is gold. One more thing on how unemployment is measured that I think is worth adding: your weekly benefit amount is calculated once but your MAXIMUM BENEFIT AMOUNT (the total you can collect over the whole claim) is a separate calculation. In California your maximum benefit amount is either 26 times your weekly benefit amount OR 52% of your total base period wages, whichever is less. So even if you have a high weekly benefit, if your total base period earnings were relatively low you might exhaust your claim faster than you expect.

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I actually did not know this - so there's both a weekly cap and a total claim cap? That's two separate limitations I need to understand.

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Exactly. Most people with full-time work histories will hit the 26-week maximum before the 52% earnings cap becomes relevant, but if you had significant gaps in employment during your base period it can matter.

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Good addition - I should have included this in my earlier breakdown. The 26 weeks x WBA cap is what most people should plan around for a standard UI claim.

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been on edd 3 times now (layoffs, not my fault lol tech industry is brutal) and honestly the system makes slightly more sense each time but never fully makes sense. how is unemployment measured consistently when the rules seem to change slightly every year anyway

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The core calculation method has been pretty stable for years but things like the maximum weekly benefit amount and income thresholds do get adjusted periodically. Keeping an eye on EDD's annual updates is worth doing if you think you might need to file again.

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yeah fair point. hope I don't have to file again but at this rate... tech layoffs aren't slowing down

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solidarity from another tech layoff survivor. the edd system is at least somewhat reliable even if confusing

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Something I want to flag that's a bit different from the calculation discussion - once you understand how your benefit amount is determined, make sure you're also tracking your weekly claim certifications carefully. Missing a certification week means you don't get paid for that week and you can't go back and certify retroactively most of the time. EDD is strict about the certification schedule. UI Online sends reminder emails but I've had them go to spam before. Set a calendar reminder for your weekly certification day.

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Good practical reminder - I have mine set up but the spam filter thing is a real risk I hadn't thought about.

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wait you certify on a specific day each week? I thought you could do it any day during the week

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You have a specific certification period that opens on Sunday and you have until the following Saturday to certify for that week. Missing the Saturday deadline means you miss that week's payment. Most people certify Sunday or Monday to be safe.

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also if you miss a week you can sometimes file a late claim form - it's not guaranteed but worth trying rather than just assuming you lost that payment

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I want to share something that might help OP and anyone else who's confused about their specific benefit calculation. EDD has phone agents who can literally pull up your claim and walk through the base period calculation with you line by line. I was totally lost on mine and a phone agent spent like 20 minutes explaining exactly why my amount was what it was. The problem is actually GETTING one of those agents on the phone. I tried calling EDD for two weeks straight and could not get through. Someone in another thread mentioned Claimyr and I was honestly skeptical but tried it anyway - claimyr.com - and got connected to an agent within a few hours. The agent was patient and thorough and I finally understood my claim after that call. Sometimes the information you need just requires talking to an actual person.

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This is actually what I think I need to do - just talk to an agent about my specific wages. Going to try Claimyr since calling directly has been useless for me too.

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Good luck! When you get through, just ask them to walk you through your base period wages and explain your WBA calculation - they're used to that question and most agents are helpful if you can actually get to them.

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the fact that you need a third party service just to reach a government agency is infuriating but here we are in 2025

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I mean I get the frustration but at least the solution exists. Before I found Claimyr I was genuinely considering just giving up on understanding my claim.

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One thing that trips people up when asking how is unemployment measured for their specific situation - EDD may show different wages than what you actually earned if your employer was late filing their payroll taxes or made errors. If your base period wages in UI Online look wrong compared to your actual W-2s, you can provide documentation to EDD to correct the record. This is called a wage audit and it can take some time but it can also significantly change your benefit amount if the error was substantial.

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Hadn't thought about this - my wages in UI Online do look a little off compared to what I remember earning. Could be worth investigating.

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Check your W-2 from that base period year and compare the quarterly breakdown to what EDD has on file. The UI Online portal shows your wages by quarter which makes it easier to spot discrepancies.

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how do you actually submit documentation to EDD to correct a wage error? do you have to mail it or can you do it online?

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You can upload documents through the UI Online portal - there's a section for uploading supporting documentation. For something like a wage correction I'd also call to make sure it was received and processed, otherwise things can sit in a queue for a while.

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ugh I filed my claim 5 weeks ago and am still waiting on adjudication for a completely separate issue from the calculation stuff. My claim shows 'pending - eligibility review' and I have gotten ZERO communication about why. I know this is slightly off topic from the original question but seeing active EDD users here and needing to ask - is this normal? Am I supposed to just wait indefinitely?

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Eligibility review / adjudication can unfortunately take 4-8 weeks or longer in California. You should have received a notice explaining what's being reviewed - check your UI Online inbox and also your physical mail. If you haven't received any notice, that's actually something worth calling EDD about because sometimes notices get lost.

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I've checked everything and nothing. No letter, no UI Online message, nothing. Just the pending status.

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If you have no notice and have been pending for 5 weeks, I'd recommend reaching out to your local Assembly member's office - they have EDD liaisons who can inquire about stalled claims. Also yes, call EDD directly - the same advice about Claimyr applies here since getting through to EDD by phone is genuinely difficult for most people.

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I didn't know about the Assembly member option - that's actually a really useful tip. Going to try that and see if it moves anything.

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