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Miguel Herrera

Does California EDD unemployment know when you get a job?

Okay so I just started a new job this week after being on unemployment for about 4 months. I'm honestly kind of confused about what I'm supposed to do now. Like does California EDD automatically find out when I get a job or do I have to tell them? My friend said something about employers reporting new hires to the state but I'm not totally sure how that works. I don't want to accidentally commit fraud or anything but I also don't fully understand the process. Do I just stop certifying for my weekly claims or do I need to officially notify EDD somehow? I started Monday and already have my first paycheck coming. Really hoping someone can walk me through this because I can't find a clear answer anywhere.

Yes, California EDD absolutely does find out when you get a new job. California has a New Employee Registry (NER) that requires all employers to report new hires to the Employment Development Department within 20 days of your start date. So even if you said nothing, EDD would eventually get notified. That said, you are still required to report your wages when you certify for weekly benefits. If you started working Monday and you're still within a benefit week, you need to report those hours and earnings on your next weekly certification. Failing to do this is considered UI fraud which can result in overpayment notices, penalties, and potentially criminal charges. Don't just ghost EDD - report it properly.

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Okay that's actually really helpful thank you. So I should keep certifying but report my wages until I no longer qualify? Or do I just stop certifying entirely?

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You keep certifying and report all wages earned during each benefit week. EDD will automatically stop paying you once your earnings exceed your weekly benefit amount. Once you have consistent full-time income you'll naturally stop qualifying and can stop certifying at that point.

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This is correct. The NER system is one of the primary ways EDD cross-checks employment data. They also get W-2 and quarterly wage report data from employers so there are multiple ways they can verify your employment status.

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yeah EDD knows lol. my cousin thought he could just keep collecting after he got hired somewhere and EDD sent him an overpayment notice like 3 months later for almost $6,000. he had to pay it all back plus a penalty. not worth it

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This happens way more than people realize. EDD does quarterly audits of wage records and they WILL catch it. The overpayment + 30% penalty is brutal.

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Yeah that's terrifying honestly. Definitely going to do this the right way.

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I went through this exact situation last year. When I got hired I wasn't sure if I should call EDD or just handle it through my weekly certification online. I tried calling EDD for three days straight and could never get through to an actual person. A friend told me about a service called Claimyr that basically gets you connected to a live EDD agent without sitting on hold forever. I used it at claimyr.com and finally got through and confirmed exactly what I needed to do. There's also a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see before trying it. Turned out I just needed to report wages through my regular certifications which the agent walked me through.

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Okay I might try this because I'm a little worried about my specific situation. I worked like 2 days this week so I'm not sure exactly how to report partial week wages.

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same I could never get through to EDD on the phone. gonna look into that claimyr thing

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Reporting partial week wages is straightforward - you just enter the gross amount you earned during that benefit week, not the net. EDD then calculates whether you're still eligible for partial benefits.

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To answer your original question directly - yes, California EDD has multiple ways of knowing when you get a job: 1. New Employee Registry - employers must report new hires within 20 days 2. Quarterly wage reports - employers submit earnings data every quarter 3. W-2 cross-referencing at tax time 4. Random audits and fraud detection algorithms The NER is the fastest one. Your employer probably already submitted your info. Always report wages on your weekly certifications to stay compliant.

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Does this mean EDD can see like real-time when I start a job? Or is there a delay?

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The NER report can come in within 20 days of your hire date, so there's a short window but it's not instant. However that doesn't mean you should wait - report your wages every week you certify.

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yeah the quarterly wage reports are what gets most people. they think they're safe and then boom overpayment notice months later

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omg I had no idea about the new hire registry thing. I just assumed they wouldn't find out for a long time. definitely reporting everything now

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Good call. Honestly the overpayment process is so stressful - better to just report correctly from the start.

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Yeah same, I had no idea the employer had to report me. Thought it was all on me to self-report.

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Can I ask a related question? What if you start a job and then get laid off again like within the first 30 days? Do you have to reopen your original claim or file a new one? I'm asking because I'm in a situation where I'm about to accept a temp position and I'm worried about what happens if it ends quickly.

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If your original benefit year is still open you can reopen that claim rather than filing a brand new one. You'd report the wages you earned from the temp job and once you're laid off again you'd restart certifying. If your benefit year has ended you'd file a new claim and they'd calculate a new weekly benefit amount based on your recent earnings.

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Okay that makes sense. And my base period wages from the temp job would factor into a new claim right?

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They would factor in if you file a new claim after your current benefit year ends. Within the same benefit year you'd just reopen the existing claim.

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Worth noting for temp work - make sure the agency or employer gives you a clear separation reason when it ends. 'Lack of work' is the cleanest reason for UI purposes.

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I'm kind of panicking reading this thread. I got a part time job about 6 weeks ago and I've been certifying but I haven't been reporting my wages correctly I think. I didn't realize I was supposed to report gross wages I was reporting like my take home pay. Is that going to cause an overpayment issue? Should I call EDD?

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Yes you should contact EDD about this. Reporting net instead of gross wages would result in EDD overpaying you because the gross amount is higher. You'd want to get ahead of this before they catch it through wage records. Calling to self-report an error is much better than waiting for them to find it.

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Oh no. So how bad is this going to be? Like will they penalize me even if I contact them first?

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Self-reporting errors generally results in just an overpayment balance to repay rather than additional fraud penalties. EDD distinguishes between mistakes and intentional fraud. Document that you're calling to correct an unintentional error.

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If you're having trouble getting through to EDD to sort this out, try Claimyr at claimyr.com - they help you get through to a live agent. Given your situation you really need to talk to someone directly rather than trying to handle it through the website.

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THE SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO CATCH YOU. i worked in HR for 8 years and let me tell you employers are legally required to submit that new hire paperwork and if they don't THEY get fined. so yes EDD knows. always has known. the idea that you can just quietly stop certifying and nobody notices is a myth that gets people into serious trouble

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Real talk. And EDD has been investing in fraud detection tech since the pandemic. They're not playing around anymore.

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Yeah I'm definitely not trying to get away with anything, I was just confused about the process. Good to know the system is this thorough though.

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Wait I'm confused about something - if you earn wages during a week does that automatically disqualify you from benefits that week or can you still get partial benefits? I thought you could earn some money and still get UI

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You can receive partial UI benefits in California. EDD reduces your weekly benefit amount based on earnings. The formula: they subtract 25% of your earnings from your weekly benefit amount, then deduct the rest dollar for dollar. So if your WBA is $400 and you earned $200 in a week, you'd still receive some partial benefits. Once earnings exceed your WBA plus 25% you receive nothing for that week but don't lose your claim entirely.

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Okay that makes way more sense. So it's not all-or-nothing.

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Correct. This is actually really important for people taking part time work while job searching. You can often still collect partial benefits and should still certify and report accurately.

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I had no idea about this partial benefit thing. I turned down some part time gigs thinking I'd lose my benefits. ugh

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just went through this literally last month. got hired, reported my wages on my last two certifications, got partial benefits for one week then nothing the next week since I was working full time. the system worked exactly like it's supposed to when you're honest about it. pretty painless honestly

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This is reassuring. So you just naturally phased out of benefits as you earned more?

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yep exactly. no drama, no letters, no overpayment. just stopped qualifying organically.

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Something people don't always think about - when you return your call-in or certification to EDD you're legally certifying under penalty of perjury that the information is accurate. That's not just a formality. EDD fraud investigators do exist and they do pursue cases. The good news is that reporting correctly is genuinely straightforward. Report gross wages for the week they were EARNED not when they were paid. That trips people up sometimes - if you worked Monday through Friday but got paid the following Friday, those wages still belong to the week you worked them.

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Wait the week earned not the week paid? I might have been doing this wrong. So if my paycheck hits on a Friday but covers the previous week I report it in the previous benefit week?

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Correct. Wages are attributed to the week the work was performed, not the pay date. This matters especially for people paid biweekly or monthly.

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This is another thing I might have gotten wrong. This is stressing me out. I really need to call EDD.

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Honestly for a situation like this where you might have multiple reporting errors, getting a live agent on the phone is really the best move. Claimyr at claimyr.com worked really well for me when I needed to sort out a complicated wages question - the video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 shows how it works if you're skeptical. Got through in a reasonable amount of time vs. the nightmare of calling directly.

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Also want to add - when you report your new job on your certification there's a question that asks if you were able and available for work each day. Once you've accepted a job offer, technically you might not be 'available' for other work anymore. Does anyone know how to answer that question accurately when you've already accepted a position but haven't started yet?

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The 'able and available' question relates to whether anything prevented you from working during that benefit week. Accepting a job offer generally doesn't make you unavailable - you're still available, just committed to start on a future date. Once you actually start working you'd report the wages for that week.

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Agreed. Accepting an offer doesn't disqualify you from benefits for the weeks before your start date as long as you were genuinely available for work. The disqualification would only kick in from the week you actually began working.

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does anyone know what happens to your remaining balance once you stop certifying? like i have weeks left on my claim but i just got hired. does it just sit there? can i use it later if something happens?

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Your claim stays open for your benefit year (12 months from when you filed). If you're laid off again during that period you can reopen the claim and continue collecting from your remaining balance as long as the benefit year hasn't expired. After the benefit year ends the remaining balance goes away even if you haven't used it all.

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oh okay so it's not permanent. good to know. appreciate it

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yeah found this out the hard way. thought I had weeks saved up and then my benefit year expired before I could use them after a second layoff

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Update: I called EDD today (took forever to get through but finally did) and explained my situation with the net vs gross wages reporting. The agent was actually really understanding and walked me through filing a self-correction. I have an overpayment to repay but no penalty since I self-reported. For anyone in a similar situation - call them, don't wait for them to find it.

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So glad you got this resolved! That's really good news about no penalty.

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this is really encouraging to hear. EDD agents can actually be helpful when you reach them

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Honestly yes. The hardest part was getting through on the phone. Took me about 90 minutes of calling before I got someone.

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For those struggling to reach EDD by phone - early morning right when they open (8am) gives you the best shot. Tuesday through Thursday tend to be slightly less awful than Monday or Friday. Still gonna be a wait but those are your best odds without using any kind of service to help you through.

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Does the 8am tip actually work? I've been calling at like 10 or 11 and just getting busy signals.

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It's not guaranteed but your odds are better. Call volume builds throughout the day. 8am sharp when lines open is the standard advice.

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Even with the 8am trick I sat on hold for over 2 hours before getting cut off twice. Eventually just used Claimyr at claimyr.com and got through without all that. Worth knowing the option exists.

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final thought for OP - congrats on the new job! and you're doing the right thing by asking these questions instead of just hoping EDD doesn't notice. the people who end up in real trouble are usually the ones who knew they should report but figured they'd get away with it. just certify honestly for any remaining partial weeks and you'll be fine

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Thanks! Yeah I just wanted to make sure I was doing everything right. I've already certified for this week and reported my wages accurately. Feeling way better about the whole situation now.

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congrats on the job! and yeah reporting honestly is so much less stressful than the anxiety of hoping you don't get caught lol

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One last thing worth knowing - even after you stop certifying entirely, keep your UI Online account accessible. EDD may send notices or requests for information months later if they do a routine audit of your account period. You want to be able to respond to those promptly if they come up. People sometimes forget their login info after they stop collecting and then miss important notices.

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Good point, I wouldn't have thought about that. I'll make sure to keep the account active.

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Also make sure your mailing address is updated in your EDD account if you move. Physical mail notices sometimes don't forward properly and missing a deadline on an overpayment appeal or audit request can create huge problems.

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This is such good practical advice. EDD will send physical mail for a lot of things even if you have online notifications set up.

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