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Isabella Costa

Denied EDD benefits for 'breaking reasonable employer rule' - appealing with job description evidence

I'm so frustrated right now. I just got denied unemployment benefits after my EDD phone interview last week. The interviewer said I was disqualified because I "broke a reasonable employer rule" which is completely unfair. \n\nWhat happened was I worked at a retail store and was terminated because a daily inventory audit wasn't properly uploaded to the system. I DID complete the audit on time (by 2pm as required), but the store's computer system froze during the upload. I immediately notified the shift lead about the technical issue, but somehow this became grounds for termination.\n\nHere's what's really messed up - inventory audits were actually a SUPERVISOR responsibility according to the official job descriptions, but our store made regular associates do them all the time without supervisor pay. I was doing at least 5 other "supervisor duties" regularly without the title or compensation.\n\nDuring my EDD interview, I explained that the store has security cameras that would show me doing the audit on time, and that I reported the system issue immediately. But the interviewer still ruled against me.\n\nSeveral coworkers have encouraged me to appeal ASAP, saying most claims get denied initially due to all the fraud EDD deals with. One friend's sister won her appeal in a similar situation by proving the duty she was fired over wasn't even in her job description.\n\nI'm planning to appeal, but I'm not sure what evidence to include or how to frame it. Should I get a copy of my official job description? Request the security footage? Get statements from coworkers about supervisor duties? I need to file this appeal quickly and want to make the strongest case possible. Any advice from people who've successfully appealed would be really appreciated!

Ravi Malhotra

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Absolutely appeal this decision! I went through almost the exact same situation in 2025 and won my appeal. Here's what you need to do:\n\n1. File your appeal ASAP - you only have 30 days from the date on your disqualification notice\n\n2. Gather evidence to prove your case:\n - Get a copy of your official job description (request from HR in writing)\n - Collect any emails/messages showing you reported the computer issue\n - Get written statements from 1-2 coworkers confirming inventory audits were supervisor duties\n - Any performance reviews showing positive work history\n - Documentation of other supervisor duties you performed regularly\n\n3. In your appeal letter, focus on these key points:\n - The task wasn't part of your official job duties (cite job description)\n - You actually completed the task on time (explain technical issue)\n - You followed proper procedure by reporting the system problem\n - The rule violation wasn't willful misconduct (key legal standard)\n\nWhen you get your hearing date, prepare to calmly explain these facts. Don't get emotional or bash your employer. Just stick to the facts about job duties and what happened that day.\n\nBased on what you've described, you have a very strong case. The fact that you were performing duties outside your job description is particularly important for your appeal.

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Thank you so much for this detailed advice! I just checked and I have 22 days left to file the appeal. A few questions:\n\n1. Should I request the security footage now or just mention it exists in my appeal?\n\n2. Do I need to send all evidence with the initial appeal or bring it to the hearing?\n\n3. What exactly is the \

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OMG the exact same thing happened to me!!! I got fired from my job and denied benefits bc they said I didnt follow procedures but it wasnt even my JOB to do that thing!!! The EDD just automatically sides with employers i swear. So annoying.

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Did you end up appealing? What happened with your case?

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Omar Farouk

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Having represented clients in EDD appeals hearings for years, I can tell you that this type of case often gets overturned on appeal. The key legal standard is whether your actions constituted \

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Chloe Davis

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This is really good info! Quick question - isn't there something about \

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AstroAlpha

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appeal appeal appeal!!!! my cousin got denied for something stupid and won her appeal. edd is overwhelmed and just denies people hoping they wont fight it.

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Diego Chavez

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I totally feel your frustration! I've been through the EDD appeal process and it's a nightmare trying to reach anyone at EDD to ask questions or check your status. I spent WEEKS trying to get through on the phone lines (99% of the time it just says they're too busy and hangs up).\n\nI finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected with an EDD representative in about 20 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km\n\nIt was worth it to actually talk to someone who could explain the appeal process and what evidence they look for. The rep gave me specific advice for my situation that I couldn't find anywhere online. Just thought I'd mention it since calling EDD directly is nearly impossible these days.

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Thank you for this tip! I'll definitely check out that service. I've been trying to call EDD for 3 days straight with no luck. Did the representative you spoke with give you any insight on how appeals are typically handled?

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THE EDD SYSTEM IS COMPLETLY RIGGED AGAINST WORKERS!!! They ALWAYS side with employers in the initial decision. I got denied for something very similar - got fired for not completing a task that literally WASNT POSSIBLE to complete because the equipment was broken but they blamed me anyway!!! \n\nMy advice: DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!! Take screenshots of your job description, get statements from coworkers IN WRITING, and if you still have contact with anybody at your old job see if they'll help you get those security videos.\n\nThe system is designed to frustrate you into giving up. DON'T GIVE UP!!! The appeals judges are actually way more fair than the initial EDD people. My hearing took 3 months to schedule but I WON and got all my back benefits.

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3 MONTHS??? omg thats so long to wait with no money coming in!! did they at least pay you for all those weeks once you won?

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Ravi Malhotra

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To answer your questions:\n\n1. For security footage - request it in writing NOW. Many systems automatically delete footage after 30-90 days. If they refuse to provide it, document your request and their refusal.\n\n2. You should mention all your evidence in the initial appeal form, but you'll actually present it at the hearing. The appeal form is mostly to request the hearing.\n\n3. \

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This is incredibly helpful. I'm going to request the footage and my official job description tomorrow. Would text messages to my supervisor about the computer issue count as good evidence too?

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Chloe Davis

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I had a kinda similar situation last year. I got fired and denied benefits. On my appeal I focused on the fact that what I supposedly did wrong was not actually in my job duties and I won! But my hearing was really stressful... the judge kept interrupting and my old boss was there trying to make me look bad. \n\nBut honest question - is it worth all the stress? Like, maybe just find a new job? The whole appeal process took me almost 4 months from filing to decision! Although I did get backpay for all those weeks once I won...

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Are you serious with this advice? \

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Omar Farouk

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In response to the question about \

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This makes so much more sense now! I think I've been confusing the standards. My termination letter just says I was fired for \

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I'm new to this community but going through something similar right now. Reading all these responses gives me hope that appealing might actually work! @Isabella Costa - definitely keep fighting this! From what everyone's saying, it sounds like you have a really strong case. The fact that inventory audits weren't even in your official job description is huge. I'm curious - has anyone here had success getting their employer to provide security footage? My situation involved a similar technical issue where cameras would prove I followed proper procedures, but I'm worried my old employer will refuse to cooperate or "accidentally" lose the footage. Also, for those who won their appeals - did you represent yourselves or get legal help? I'm trying to decide if I should hire someone or if the process is manageable on my own. Thanks for sharing all this detailed advice everyone. This thread is exactly what I needed to see to understand I'm not alone in dealing with EDD's initial denial tactics!

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Welcome to the community! I'm glad this thread is helping you too. For your questions about security footage - I'd recommend sending a written request (email or certified mail) to your former employer's HR department ASAP. Some employers will cooperate, especially if you frame it professionally and mention it's for an official EDD appeal. Even if they refuse, having documentation that you requested it can help your case. As for legal representation, I represented myself and won, but it definitely helped that I had @Ravi Malhotra s'advice and did tons of research beforehand. The hearing process itself isn t'too complicated if you re'organized and stick to the facts. Just make sure you have all your evidence ready and practice explaining your situation clearly and calmly. @Isabella Costa - yes, those text messages to your supervisor about the computer issue would be excellent evidence! Screenshot them and save them somewhere safe. That shows you reported the problem immediately, which undermines their argument that you violated company policy. Good luck with your appeal too @Kingston Bellamy! It s frustrating'that EDD puts us through this, but don t give'up. The appeals process really does work if you come prepared with the right evidence.

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Dylan Evans

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I'm really sorry you're going through this - the EDD system can be so frustrating! But based on what you've described, you definitely have grounds for a successful appeal. A few additional tips that might help: 1. When you write your appeal letter, be very specific about the timeline. State exactly when you completed the audit (by 2pm as required), when the system froze, and when you immediately reported it to your shift lead. This shows you followed proper procedures. 2. If possible, get a written statement from that shift lead confirming you reported the technical issue to them. Even a text message screenshot would help. 3. When gathering evidence about supervisor duties, try to get documentation showing the pay difference between your role and supervisors. This strengthens your argument that you were performing duties outside your job classification. 4. Keep copies of EVERYTHING you submit. The EDD system isn't perfect and documents sometimes get "lost." The fact that you were terminated for a technical issue completely outside your control, while performing duties that weren't even in your job description, really works in your favor. Appeals judges see cases like this all the time and understand the difference between willful misconduct and circumstances beyond an employee's control. Don't let the initial denial discourage you - it sounds like your coworkers are right that many people win on appeal. You've got this!

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This is such helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation where I was fired for something that was completely out of my control - a system glitch that prevented me from completing a required task on time. @Dylan Evans - your point about getting documentation of the pay difference is brilliant. I never thought about that angle, but it really does show how unfair it was to hold me to supervisor-level responsibilities without the pay or official title. @Isabella Costa - I hope you re feeling'more confident about your appeal after reading all this great advice! Your case sounds really strong, especially with the job description evidence and the fact that you reported the technical issue immediately. One thing I m wondering'about - has anyone here had success with getting coworker statements? I m worried'about asking my former colleagues to get involved since they still work at the company and might be afraid of retaliation. Any tips on how to approach this sensitively? Also, does anyone know if there are any free legal clinics that help with EDD appeals? I m trying'to prepare the strongest case possible but legal fees are tough when you re already'dealing with no income. Thanks everyone for creating such a supportive community here. It s really'encouraging to see people who ve been'through this and come out successful on the other side!

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Taylor To

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Hey Isabella! I just went through a very similar EDD appeal process last month and wanted to share what worked for me. The advice from @Ravi Malhotra and others here is spot on - definitely appeal ASAP! A couple things that really helped my case that I didn't see mentioned yet: 1. **Document the pattern of supervisor duties** - I made a simple spreadsheet listing all the supervisor-level tasks I regularly performed, how often, and what the actual supervisor pay rate was vs. my pay. This really drove home the point that I was being held to standards above my job classification. 2. **Get your employee handbook** - Mine had specific language about technical difficulties and reporting procedures that actually supported my case. It showed I followed proper protocol. 3. **Timeline is crucial** - I created a detailed timeline of events (like "2:00pm completed audit, 2:15pm system froze, 2:17pm reported to shift lead") because the judge asked very specific questions about timing. For your security footage request, send it certified mail to HR and also email a copy so you have proof of when you requested it. Even if they don't provide it, showing you tried to get evidence that would prove your case actually helps. Your situation sounds even stronger than mine was since you have clear evidence the duty wasn't in your job description. I won my appeal and got 12 weeks of back pay. The hearing was nerve-wracking but the judge was fair and actually listened to the facts. Don't let them intimidate you into giving up - you've got a solid case here!

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Mei Lin

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@Taylor To - thank you so much for sharing your experience! The spreadsheet idea is genius - I m'definitely going to create one showing all the supervisor duties I was doing. It s'crazy how many additional responsibilities they pile on without adjusting pay or job titles. Your point about the employee handbook is really smart too. I still have my copy somewhere and I bet there s'language about technical issues and proper reporting procedures that would support my case. I m'feeling so much more confident about this appeal after reading everyone s'advice. It s'amazing how supportive this community is! I was honestly feeling pretty defeated after that initial denial, but now I realize that s'exactly what they re'counting on - people giving up instead of fighting for what they re'entitled to. @Isabella Costa - I hope you re taking'notes on all this great advice! Between the job description evidence, the technical issue documentation, and all these strategic tips, your case sounds incredibly strong. Don t let'EDD s initial'denial discourage you - it sounds like they deny almost everyone hoping people won t appeal.'Thanks again everyone for sharing your experiences and tips. This thread should honestly be pinned as a resource for anyone dealing with EDD appeal issues!

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Logan Chiang

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I'm so sorry you're going through this Isabella! Your situation sounds incredibly frustrating but also very winnable on appeal. The advice from everyone here is excellent - definitely don't give up! One thing I wanted to add that I haven't seen mentioned yet: when you're preparing for your hearing, practice explaining your case out loud beforehand. I know it sounds silly, but when I had my EDD appeal hearing, I was so nervous that I started rambling and almost forgot to mention some key points. Also, regarding the security footage - even if your employer won't provide it, the fact that you can specifically reference what the cameras would show (you completing the audit on time, reporting the system issue immediately) can still be powerful evidence. The judge will note that you're being very specific about verifiable facts. Your case has all the elements of a successful appeal: - Technical failure beyond your control - You followed proper procedures by reporting the issue - The task wasn't in your official job description - You were performing supervisor duties without supervisor pay The initial EDD interviewer probably just checked boxes without really understanding the nuances of your situation. The appeals process is where you'll get a fair hearing from someone who actually reviews the details. Keep us updated on how it goes! This community is rooting for you, and your experience will definitely help others in similar situations. You've got this! 💪

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Felicity Bud

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@Logan Chiang - that s'such great advice about practicing out loud! I never would have thought of that but it makes total sense. When you re'stressed and nervous it s'so easy to forget important details or ramble instead of staying focused on the key points. I m'also really glad you mentioned that even without the actual security footage, being specific about what it would show can still help the case. That takes some pressure off since getting cooperation from former employers can be tricky. @Isabella Costa - I hope you re feeling'encouraged by all this support! Your case really does sound like a textbook example of an unfair denial that should be overturned on appeal. The combination of the technical issue being beyond your control, you following proper procedures, and the task not being in your job description is exactly the kind of thing appeals judges look for. It s honestly'inspiring to see how this community comes together to help each other navigate these bureaucratic nightmares. EDD s initial'denial process seems designed to discourage people from fighting for their rights, but threads like this show that with the right preparation and evidence, justice can prevail. Wishing you the best of luck with your appeal! Please keep us posted on how it goes - your experience will definitely help others facing similar situations.

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Anita George

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I'm new to this community but currently going through my own EDD appeal process, so reading through everyone's advice here has been incredibly helpful! @Isabella Costa - your situation sounds almost identical to what happened to me. I was terminated for not completing a task that was actually outside my official job duties, and like you, I got denied initially. The frustration is real, but don't let it discourage you! Based on what I've learned from my own research and the excellent advice in this thread, you definitely have a strong case. The key points that stand out for your appeal: 1. **Job description mismatch** - This is HUGE. The fact that inventory audits were supervisor duties but you were required to do them as a regular associate shows they were holding you to standards outside your job classification. 2. **Technical failure beyond your control** - You completed the audit on time but couldn't upload due to a system freeze. That's not misconduct, that's a technical issue. 3. **Proper reporting** - You immediately told your shift lead about the problem, showing you followed appropriate procedures. I'd definitely recommend getting that job description in writing ASAP, along with any documentation showing the pay difference between your role and supervisors who were supposed to handle inventory audits. The appeals judges are much more fair than the initial EDD reviewers. From what I've learned, they actually take time to review the facts rather than just rubber-stamping denials. Keep fighting this - you've got solid grounds for an appeal and this community is here to support you! 💪

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