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Anastasia Fedorov

Can you get unemployment when you get fired? California EDD rules explained

Got let go from my warehouse job last Friday and I'm honestly in a panic trying to figure out what happens next. My manager said I was fired for 'performance issues' but I genuinely think they were looking for any excuse to cut costs because three other people on my shift got let go the same week. Anyway I went on EDD's website and I'm confused because some things I read say you can't get unemployment if you're fired but other things say you can? Like which is it? I filed my claim already through myEDD but now I'm just sitting here not knowing if I'm going to get denied or what. Does anyone actually know how EDD handles this when someone gets fired? Do I have any chance of getting benefits?

DE 4800 is the notice to watch for in your mailbox when you get fired and EDD has questions about it. Because your employer will tell EDD their side of why you left, EDD typically schedules a phone interview to hear from you too before they make any call on eligibility. The way EDD looks at a firing is basically: the employer has to show there was actual misconduct on your part. So 'performance issues' and misconduct aren't necessarily the same thing. Poor performance without any deliberate wrongdoing on your end is a whole different animal than, say, stealing or violating a clear workplace policy on purpose. File and let the process play out — your situation sounds like it could go either way, which is exactly why EDD does the interview.

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So I should get a DE 4800 in the mail telling me when the interview is? I had no idea about any of this. What happens if I miss the interview time?

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The DE 4800 gives you the date and time, and the interviewer phones at that time, so just keep your phone nearby. If you absolutely can't make it, contact EDD at least a day before to try to reschedule. Missing it without reaching out means EDD makes a decision with only whatever info they already have, and that usually doesn't go your way. Phone EDD that same day if you do miss it.

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The notice also shows up on your UI Online homepage on myEDD so you can double check the time there too

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Retail job of mine, the company wrote up my termination letter as 'policy violation' and I honestly didn't know if EDD would even look at my claim. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to an EDD agent because I could not get anyone on the phone on my own — there's a video showing how reaching a live person at EDD actually works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent pulled up my claim and told me that the interview was already scheduled and what documents I should have ready to explain my side. What the agent said made sense: EDD looks at whether what I did was truly intentional misconduct, not just whether the company decided to fire me. Ended up getting approved after the interview.

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Wait so you got approved even with a policy violation on your record? That gives me some hope. What documents did you pull together?

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Mostly anything showing what actually happened — my write-ups, the handbook page about the policy, emails. The agent suggested I be ready to explain the timeline in my own words during the interview. Having that stuff organized helped me feel less scattered when the interviewer called.

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This is making me want to try getting through to EDD before my interview too. My firing situation is different but same idea of needing to explain context.

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Firing cases at California EDD really do hinge on that word 'misconduct' and EDD's definition of it is narrower than most employers make it sound. EDD basically asks: did you deliberately do something wrong, knowing it was against the rules, or did you just not perform well enough? A supervisor deciding your numbers were off, or that you weren't a good fit — that's not the same thing as EDD's misconduct standard. I've seen people get approved after firings when the employer's reason was really about performance metrics rather than intentional rule-breaking. File, do the interview, give your side clearly.

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wait so my company can fire me for 'not being a culture fit' and EDD might still pay me??? asking because that happened to me literally two months ago and I never even filed because I assumed I'd get denied

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You likely should have filed. EDD decides based on what actually happened, not on whatever label the employer put on the separation. 'Culture fit' is not misconduct. It's worth filing now — your claim starts from the week you apply though, not from two months ago.

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This is really helpful, thank you. I was so sure a firing meant automatic denial.

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EDD DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY DENY FIRED WORKERS. I wish someone had told me this when I went through it. My manager wrote 'insubordination' on my separation paperwork and I almost didn't even bother filing because I thought it was hopeless. The interview was what mattered — I explained my side and what actually happened was a miscommunication with a supervisor, not me refusing to do my job. Got approved. The employer has to actually back up their misconduct claim with EDD, they can't just write something on a form.

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Okay this is exactly what I needed to hear. I've been catastrophizing thinking a firing automatically closes the door.

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File, show up for the interview, tell the truth about what happened. That's it. Don't let the word on a termination letter scare you off from even trying.

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same exact thing with me insubordination written on the paper but I explained what actually happened and they paid me. EDD actually listens to both sides

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CalJOBS registration is something a lot of people forget about right after filing — EDD sends a notice (DE 8405) telling you that you need to register there and post a resume within 21 days. Miss that window and your payments can stop regardless of whether your firing case gets resolved in your favor. Worth doing early so it's not hanging over you while you're waiting on the adjudication.

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I had no idea about CalJOBS. Is that at caljobs.ca.gov? I'll go do that now.

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Yes that's the site. It's not complicated — set up a profile and get a resume posted. EDD will tell you on the DE 8405 whether you need to do it, so watch your mail.

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I forgot about CalJOBS after my claim and had to scramble to get it done. Do it now OP, seriously, while you're thinking about it

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The interview scheduling thing confused me when I went through a firing situation. For anyone unsure: EDD schedules the interview because there's a question about your eligibility — it's not a bad sign that they're scheduling one, it just means they want to hear your side before making a decision. The DE 4800 notice lays out the specific questions they're likely to ask you too, which I found helpful to look over beforehand so I wasn't caught off guard.

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Mine hasn't come yet — how long after you filed did you get the DE 4800?

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Mine came about a week after I filed but I think it varies. Keep an eye on your mailbox and also the UI Online homepage on myEDD — the interview date shows there too once it's scheduled.

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I checked UI Online like every day waiting for mine. It did show up there before the paper notice arrived for me

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Something I wish I'd known: you need to keep certifying every two weeks even while EDD is still working through the question about your firing. If they eventually decide you're eligible, they can only pay weeks you actually certified. Skipping certifications while you wait means those weeks won't get paid even if you win. Keep certifying through the whole process, including if you end up appealing anything.

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When does the first certification happen? I just filed a few days ago.

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Usually about two weeks after EDD processes your application, then every two weeks after that. UI Online is the fastest way to certify when the time comes.

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oh no I stopped certifying while I was waiting to hear back after my interview. does that mean I lost those weeks?

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If you haven't certified those weeks, unfortunately EDD typically can't go back and pay them. You'd want to contact EDD about your specific situation — don't let more time pass.

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My termination was listed as 'gross misconduct' which sounded terrible but I still filed because someone told me to let EDD make the call. The thing is, gross misconduct is EDD's determination to make, not the employer's label to assign. My former company told EDD one thing, I told EDD another, and the interview was where I could actually explain what happened. EDD sided with me in the end. The employer's characterization isn't the final word.

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How did you prepare for the interview itself? I want to make sure I explain my side clearly.

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Write down a clear timeline of events beforehand. Know your dates, know what was actually said to you and by who. When the interviewer calls at the scheduled time, just walk through it factually. Don't exaggerate and don't get emotional, just explain what happened.

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This is solid advice. My interview felt more like a conversation than an interrogation once I got past the nerves.

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Pending status on your UI Online Claim History after a firing is totally normal — it just means EDD is working through the eligibility question. Don't read it as a denial. The weeks stay pending until EDD finishes the interview and makes a decision. Once they decide, either the payments process or you get a Notice of Determination in the mail explaining why if you're denied.

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Mine already shows pending and it's freaking me out. Good to know that's just the process and not a 'we're going to deny you' signal.

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Completely normal after a firing. The adjudication process just takes time. If weeks keep piling up as pending long after your interview, then it's worth calling EDD to check on it.

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Quick thing my cousin went through the same thing and EDD paid her so youll probably be fine

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That said everyone's situation is different — the interview really is what determines it. Can't guarantee anything from someone else's experience.

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yeah fair point I'm just saying firings don't automatically mean denied

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Wages and work history matter here too — to get any benefit amount, your claim needs enough earnings from roughly the 12-18 months before you filed. EDD's Notice of Unemployment Insurance Award (DE 429Z) will come in the mail showing your weekly benefit amount once EDD has processed your application. If anything on it looks wrong, appeal it in writing within 30 days of the mailing date.

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What's the range on the weekly amount? I'm trying to figure out if it'll cover even basics while I look for work.

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Anywhere from $40 to $450 a week depending on what you earned. The highest-paid quarter of your base period is what they use to calculate it. EDD also has a benefits calculator on edd.ca.gov that can give you a rough estimate before the DE 429Z arrives.

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Mine was way less than I expected but it was still something. Even $300 a week helps when you have nothing else coming in.

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Worth knowing that reporting wages correctly when you do certify matters a lot. If you pick up any part-time hours while waiting for your firing case to get resolved, report what you earned for the week you earned it, not when the paycheck comes. EDD has a formula where the first $25 or 25 percent of what you made — whichever is bigger — doesn't count against your payment, and the rest gets subtracted. Full-time work in a week cancels eligibility for that week entirely.

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I've been applying for temp work to get some income. So I'd report those wages even during the pending period?

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Yes, every week you earn anything, report it when you certify. The 'Report Wages' option in UI Online is how you do it before certifying. Don't wait until the paycheck posts.

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I had no idea about the 25 percent thing, I always thought any earnings just reduced it dollar for dollar. Good to know.

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The dollar-for-dollar assumption is a common one. The formula helps people who pick up part-time work — you're not punished as heavily for working some hours.

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DE 1080CZ is the notice to look for if EDD denies you. It comes with the Appeal Form (DE 1000M) attached. You have 30 days from the mailing date to appeal in writing — either use the DE 1000M or write a letter and mail it to the address on the notice. Missing that window makes an appeal much harder because you'd need to explain why you were late. If you get denied, don't just accept it without reading the notice carefully.

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30 days from the mailing date, not the date I receive it? That's a tight window if the mail is slow.

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Yes, it's the mailing date on the notice itself. So open everything EDD sends immediately and don't let it sit. 30 days goes fast.

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Appeals go to an administrative law judge at the CUIAB if EDD doesn't reverse the decision on its own review. You can represent yourself, have a union rep, or an attorney — you're not on your own if you get to that stage.

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Filing the same week you got fired matters more than people realize. The claim starts on the Sunday of the week you apply — there's no backdating once you've waited. Apply now if you haven't, even if you're not sure you'll be approved. You lose nothing by filing and potentially lose weeks of benefits by waiting.

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I actually filed the day after I was let go so I think I'm okay there. Wasn't going to wait around.

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Smart move. The waiting week is served on your first eligible week, so the sooner you file the sooner that clock starts and the sooner payments can flow.

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There's also a one-week unpaid waiting period on every claim — it doesn't cost you a week of total benefits, it just means the first week is unpaid. EDD's total stays the same, but you won't see payment for that first week. Just wanted to flag it because I was confused when my first certifications came through and the math didn't match what I expected.

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So the first certification covers the waiting week and one paid week?

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Exactly — you certify for two weeks the first time, the first week is the unpaid one, and you get one week's payment. After that it's the normal two weeks paid each time.

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I thought the waiting week counted against my total. Good clarification — it doesn't reduce the overall benefit amount on the claim.

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For what it's worth, EDD notifies your former employer when you file. The employer has 10 days from EDD's notice to respond with their side of the story. If they respond and say misconduct, that's what triggers the interview for you. If they don't respond at all, EDD decides with what it has — which is generally better for you as the claimant.

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So if my employer doesn't respond to EDD, that actually helps me?

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An employer that doesn't respond to EDD's notice doesn't get to appeal EDD's decision later either, so yes, non-response generally tilts toward the claimant. But either way you should be ready to do the interview.

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My former employer responded and tried to give EDD a whole story. I still got approved because I told my side clearly and what they said didn't hold up as actual misconduct under EDD's standard.

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Months after my firing situation wrapped up I found out I could have used CalFresh while I was waiting on EDD. Unemployment benefits count as income for the application, so once your claim starts paying you can use them as proof of income. If finances are tight while you're waiting on EDD, CalFresh is worth looking into — apply at BenefitsCal or call 1-877-847-3663.

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I hadn't even thought about CalFresh. Is that separate from EDD entirely?

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Completely separate program, run by the county. EDD has nothing to do with it. How much you'd get depends on your situation — the county works that out, not EDD.

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My firing case had an extra wrinkle — I'd gotten a written warning two weeks before they let me go, and I was nervous that made it look worse. During the interview I explained that I had acknowledged the warning, tried to fix the issue, and nothing actually changed. The interviewer asked specific questions about what I did after the warning. Getting approved didn't feel guaranteed but I went in having thought through what I'd say for each scenario.

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I have a written warning in my file too. Good to know the interview gives you a chance to give context rather than just having the warning speak against you.

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EDD cares about what you actually did and whether it was intentional, not just that a document exists. The warning alone didn't sink me.

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Talked to an EDD agent through Claimyr about whether my own written warning would factor in — the agent walked me through what the interviewer would likely ask about it. Gave me a clearer head going into the call.

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Taxes come into play once payments start — unemployment benefits count as federal income, so you'll owe federal tax on whatever EDD pays you. California doesn't tax it at the state level though. When you certify you can choose to have 10 percent withheld for federal, which saves you a headache at tax time. EDD also mails a Form 1099G in January showing what you received, and it's available in UI Online under Payments.

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10 percent withholding — do I choose that during certification or somewhere in my account settings?

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You choose it during the certification process. Worth doing so the tax bill at filing time isn't a surprise.

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I didn't withhold anything my first claim and it was an annoying surprise in April. Take the 10 percent, it's not worth the stress later.

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The phone line is 1-800-300-5616 if you need to reach EDD directly — weekdays 8 to 5. Live chat is also available through the Help button in UI Online, Monday through Friday 9 to 2. Used Claimyr to get through when I was stuck in an endless hold loop trying to ask about my adjudication status after a termination. Ended up talking to an agent who confirmed my interview was scheduled and what week my pending claim went to.

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How long does the adjudication process usually take after the interview?

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No exact timeline EDD publishes — in my case the pending weeks updated within a couple weeks after the interview. But it varies. If it stretches past a month with no movement, that's when calling to check makes sense.

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My situation was stuck way longer than expected. Ended up reaching an EDD agent through Claimyr after weeks of silence — the agent told me there was a second eligibility question EDD had opened that I didn't even know about, and what I needed to do next.

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