Can you get EDD benefits if fired for attendance violations? HR told my daughter to apply anyway
My daughter (23) just got terminated from her retail job yesterday after 6 months for having too many tardies and 2 unexcused absences. When they let her go, the HR manager actually told her 'make sure you file for unemployment right away.' This confused me because I always thought you couldn't get benefits if you were fired for breaking company policy? She's pretty upset and I'm trying to help her figure this out. She admits she was late several times (usually 5-10 minutes) because of unreliable public transportation, and she did miss two shifts when she was sick but didn't call in properly according to their policy. The company called it 'misconduct' on her termination paperwork. Is it worth her time to even apply for EDD? Will she automatically be denied because of the attendance issues? Or was HR giving her good advice? She has rent due in 3 weeks and I'm trying to help her understand what to expect.
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Emma Swift
She should ABSOLUTELY apply! The worst they can say is no, but termination for attendance issues isn't automatically disqualifying for unemployment in California. What matters is whether EDD considers it "misconduct" by their definition, which is different from what employers might call misconduct. For EDD purposes, misconduct generally requires a deliberate disregard for the employer's interests. Being late because of transportation problems or missing work due to illness might not meet that threshold, especially if she didn't have a history of disciplinary actions for these issues before. If her employer doesn't contest it (and it sounds like they might not if HR encouraged her to apply), she has a decent chance. Even if they do contest it, she can explain the circumstances in an eligibility interview.
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Max Knight
AuthorThank you for this - it gives us some hope. Do you know if she needs to mention the reason for termination when she applies? Or should she just put "terminated" and wait for EDD to ask for details?
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Isabella Tucker
tell her 2 apply asap!! my roomate got fired for somthing similar last year (late 2 work like 12 times) and still got approved! the hr person obvs knows there system and wouldnt tell her 2 apply if they were gonna fight it. jus make sure she doesnt lie on the application bc thats when u get in troble
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Max Knight
AuthorThat's encouraging to hear someone with similar circumstances got approved. She'll definitely be honest on the application. Do you know how long it took for your roommate to get approved?
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Jayden Hill
Your daughter should apply for unemployment immediately and be completely honest about the situation. Here's why: 1. In California, EDD defines misconduct much more narrowly than employers do 2. Simple attendance issues, especially with explanations like transportation problems, often don't rise to EDD's definition of misconduct 3. The fact that HR suggested she apply is actually significant - they may not be planning to contest it 4. Even if initially denied, she can appeal and explain her side during an eligibility interview 5. Many tardiness-related terminations are ultimately approved for benefits after review She should apply online through UI Online, clearly explain the circumstances when asked, and be prepared for a possible eligibility interview where she can explain the transportation issues and illness in detail. Document everything, including any warnings she received before termination.
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Max Knight
AuthorThank you for such a detailed explanation. This is really helpful. She'll apply today and make sure to document everything as you suggested. If she does get scheduled for an eligibility interview, should she gather any specific evidence about her transportation issues?
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LordCommander
When I got fired for attendance last year my claim was initially DENIED but I appealed and eventually WON. The key difference between regular misconduct and what EDD calls "misconduct" is whether your actions showed a "willful disregard" for the employer's interests. Being late because buses run late isn't willful disregard - it's just life happening. Your daughter should: 1) Apply immediately 2) Answer all questions truthfully 3) Be prepared for an eligibility phone interview 4) If denied, APPEAL APPEAL APPEAL The EDD system is frustrating though - took me 7 weeks of calling every day to finally get through for my interview. I eventually used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual EDD representative when I needed to check on my appeal status. They have a video explaining how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km Don't give up - the system is designed to be discouraging but persistence pays off!
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Lucy Lam
yea the appeal process is key!! my brother was denied 4 being fired for attendance but won his appeal. took like 6 weeks tho
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Aidan Hudson
I'm actually an HR manager (not giving legal advice, just my experience). The reason her HR told her to apply is because many companies don't automatically contest all unemployment claims, especially for things like tardiness where the person was otherwise a good employee. Companies have to pay a higher unemployment insurance rate if they have lots of successful claims, but contesting claims also costs time and resources. Sometimes it's not worth fighting. My advice: she should apply immediately and be 100% honest. If asked why she was terminated, she should explain the transportation issues and that she was sick for the absences - those are potentially reasonable explanations. Don't say "misconduct" just because that's what the employer called it. Let EDD make their own determination.
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Max Knight
AuthorThat makes a lot of sense from the HR perspective. She was actually in good standing otherwise - her performance reviews were positive and she got along well with everyone. You're right that she should just explain the actual reasons rather than using their terminology. Thanks for the insight!
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Zoe Wang
OMGGGG THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME!!! I got fired for attendance (6 tardies in 3 months) and I was sooooo stressed about money but I applied for EDD anyway and GOT APPROVED!!! The key is the eligibility interview - I explained that my tardies weren't intentional and were because of the bus schedule and they decided it wasn't "misconduct" by their definition. Your daughter should definitely apply! Like right now today!! But warning - the wait times to talk to someone at EDD are INSANE if she has questions or issues with her claim. I literally tried calling for 2 weeks straight and couldn't get through.
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Max Knight
AuthorWow, that's amazing you had almost the identical situation and got approved! That gives us a lot of hope. I'll make sure she applies today. Was there anything specific you said during your eligibility interview that you think helped your case?
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Connor Richards
everybody here is being way too optimistic. if she was fired for breaking clearly stated company policies, that's misconduct by definition. my cousin got fired for attendance and was denied. depends on how the company reports it to EDD. if they check the "misconduct" box, she'll probably be denied initially. still worth applying though. worst case she gets denied and has to appeal.
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Emma Swift
This isn't entirely accurate. EDD uses its own definition of misconduct that's narrower than what employers might call misconduct. Many attendance-related terminations are initially denied but then approved on appeal or after an eligibility interview. The fact that HR told her to apply suggests they may not be classifying it as disqualifying misconduct when they respond to EDD's inquiry.
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Isabella Tucker
she shud gather any proof of the bus being late if she has it!! like screenshots of the transit app showing delays or txt messages to coworkers saying the bus is running late again. that stuff helps in the interview
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Max Knight
AuthorThat's a great idea! I'll tell her to look through her texts and see if she has any evidence of the transportation issues. Thank you!
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LordCommander
Just wanted to add - make sure she continues looking for work while waiting for a decision. EDD requires you to be actively searching for work to remain eligible, and they can ask about your job search activities during certification. At minimum, she should apply to at least 3 jobs per week and keep track of where she applied, when, and contact information. This will be important if she gets approved and starts certifying for benefits.
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Max Knight
AuthorThanks for this reminder! I'll make sure she knows she needs to be actively job hunting and keeping records of her applications. She's already started looking, but I'll tell her to create a spreadsheet to track everything.
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Vera Visnjic
One more thing to keep in mind - if your daughter does get approved, make sure she understands the certification process. She'll need to certify for benefits every two weeks, and EDD will ask specific questions about her job search activities, any work she did that week, and whether she was able and available for work. Also, if she gets called for an eligibility interview, don't panic if it takes a while to schedule. EDD is still catching up from the pandemic backlog, and interview scheduling can take several weeks. The important thing is that she applied quickly and will have a chance to tell her side of the story. Given that HR specifically told her to apply, I'm actually pretty optimistic about her chances. Companies don't usually encourage filing if they plan to aggressively contest the claim.
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