Can I get unemployment if I was fired for being late - NYS Department of Labor rules?
I got terminated from my job last month because I was chronically late over a 6-month period. My supervisor documented about 15 instances where I was between 10-45 minutes late, and they gave me two written warnings before letting me go. I know being fired usually disqualifies you from UI benefits, but I'm wondering if there are any exceptions for attendance issues? I had some legitimate reasons for the tardiness (childcare problems, car trouble) but I never provided documentation to HR. Has anyone successfully gotten unemployment after being fired for attendance? What should I expect when I file my claim with NYS Department of Labor?
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Kaylee Cook
Unfortunately, chronic tardiness is typically considered misconduct by NYS Department of Labor standards, which would disqualify you from receiving benefits. However, the key factor is whether your employer can prove it was willful misconduct versus circumstances beyond your control. If you had legitimate reasons like childcare issues, you might have a case during the adjudication process. You should still file your claim - let NYS Department of Labor make the determination rather than assuming you're disqualified.
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Morgan Washington
•Thanks for the advice! Should I mention the childcare and car problems when I file, even though I didn't document them with my employer at the time?
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Oliver Alexander
same thing happened to my brother last year, he was late too many times and got fired. nysdol denied his claim initially but he appealed and won because he could prove his lateness was due to his kid's medical appointments. you have to show it wasn't your fault
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Lara Woods
I had success with a similar situation using Claimyr to get through to an actual NYS Department of Labor agent when my claim went to adjudication. The automated system kept giving me generic responses about misconduct, but speaking to a real person let me explain the circumstances behind my attendance issues. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/qyftW-mnTNI showing how it works. Really helped me avoid the endless phone tree nightmare.
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Adrian Hughes
•How much does that service cost? I'm already broke from being unemployed and can't afford expensive services right now.
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Molly Chambers
The unemployment system is so backwards! They expect people to be perfect employees but then when life happens - sick kids, transportation issues - they act like it's your fault. I've been fighting NYS Department of Labor for months over a similar situation. Document everything you can remember about why you were late and be prepared for a long fight.
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Ian Armstrong
Were you given any warnings or chances to improve your attendance? NYS Department of Labor looks at whether your employer followed progressive discipline. If they just fired you without warning, you might have a better chance. Also, the specific wording in your termination paperwork matters - 'attendance issues' might be viewed differently than 'willful misconduct' or 'insubordination.
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Morgan Washington
•I did get two written warnings about my attendance, and my termination letter specifically says 'excessive tardiness' as the reason. Does that hurt my chances?
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Eli Butler
definitely file anyway! worst case they say no and you appeal. i know someone who got approved after being fired for attendance because she had documentation from her doctor about her condition causing the issues
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Liam Mendez
I went through something similar about a year ago - got fired for attendance issues due to ongoing childcare problems. Here's what I learned: NYS Department of Labor will consider whether the circumstances were within your control or not. The fact that you had legitimate reasons like childcare and car trouble could work in your favor, but you'll need to be able to explain and potentially prove these circumstances during the adjudication process. Even without prior documentation to HR, you can still gather evidence now - maintenance records for your car, childcare provider statements, etc. The key is showing these weren't frivolous reasons but genuine obstacles. File your claim immediately - the worst they can do is deny it, and then you can appeal with more detailed documentation of your circumstances.
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Samantha Howard
•This is really helpful advice! I'm curious - what kind of documentation did you end up providing for your childcare issues? I'm worried that since I didn't formally notify my employer about these problems at the time, it might look like I'm making excuses after the fact. Did you have to get statements from your childcare provider or anything specific like that?
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Jamal Carter
•@Samantha Howard For my childcare documentation, I gathered several things: a letter from my daycare provider explaining the schedule conflicts and emergency closures that affected my work attendance, text messages between me and my babysitter about last-minute cancellations, and even some photos of my car repair receipts with dates that matched my late arrivals. The adjudicator told me they weren t'looking for formal HR documentation - they wanted to see that these were real circumstances, not just excuses. I also wrote a detailed timeline matching each tardiness incident to the specific issue that caused it. Don t'worry about not having formal documentation at the time - most people don t'think to document these things until they need to. The key is being honest and thorough about what actually happened.
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Olivia Clark
I work in HR and have seen cases like this go both ways with NYS Department of Labor. The fact that you received progressive discipline (two written warnings) actually shows your employer followed proper procedure, which can work against you. However, the underlying reasons for your tardiness matter enormously in the adjudication process. Childcare emergencies and vehicle breakdowns are considered "compelling circumstances" if you can demonstrate they were legitimate and beyond your control. Start gathering any evidence you can - repair receipts, childcare provider records, even bank statements showing daycare payments or car repairs. When you file your claim, be completely honest about the termination reason but emphasize the circumstances that led to the attendance issues. Even if initially denied, many attendance-related denials get overturned on appeal when claimants can present a clear pattern of circumstances beyond their control rather than willful disregard for work rules.
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Carmen Ortiz
•This is incredibly detailed and helpful information! As someone new to this situation, I'm wondering about the timeline for gathering this evidence. How quickly do I need to file my initial claim, and how much time do I typically have to collect documentation before the adjudication process begins? I'm trying to balance filing promptly (since I know there are time limits) with having enough evidence ready to present my case effectively. Also, when you mention bank statements showing daycare payments - would that really help prove the childcare conflicts, or is it more about establishing that I actually had ongoing childcare responsibilities?
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Victoria Scott
•@Carmen Ortiz You should file your initial claim as soon as possible - there s'a one-week waiting period before benefits can start, and delays in filing can cost you money. Don t'wait to gather all your documentation first! Once you file, NYS Department of Labor typically takes 2-4 weeks to make an initial determination, and if it goes to adjudication which (attendance cases often do ,)you ll'have additional time to submit evidence. The bank statements showing daycare payments help establish that you had legitimate ongoing childcare responsibilities - it s'part of building the overall picture that your tardiness wasn t'due to laziness or disregard for your job, but because you were managing real life obligations. Combined with provider statements about schedule conflicts or emergency closures, it helps show a pattern of circumstances rather than just isolated incidents.
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Miguel Harvey
I'm in a very similar situation right now - got let go three weeks ago for attendance issues that were largely due to my elderly parent's medical appointments and my unreliable car. Reading through everyone's responses here gives me hope that I might still have a chance if I can document everything properly. I'm planning to file my claim this week and gather all the medical appointment records and repair receipts I can find. Has anyone had experience with NYS Department of Labor being understanding about eldercare responsibilities, or is it mainly childcare situations that they consider? I'm worried that caring for an aging parent might not be viewed the same way as childcare emergencies by the adjudicators.
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James Johnson
•@Miguel Harvey Eldercare responsibilities are absolutely considered compelling circumstances by NYS Department of Labor - don t'worry about that! I had a coworker who successfully got benefits after being fired for attendance issues related to her father s'dialysis appointments and medical emergencies. The key is the same as with childcare - you need to show these were legitimate, unavoidable circumstances rather than personal choices. Medical appointment records, discharge papers from hospital visits, and even a letter from your parent s'doctor explaining their care needs can all help establish that pattern. Eldercare can actually be even more unpredictable than childcare since medical emergencies don t'follow a schedule. Make sure to emphasize in your claim that you were fulfilling family caregiving responsibilities that were time-sensitive and couldn t'be rescheduled. Good luck with your filing - sounds like you have the right mindset about documenting everything!
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StarStrider
I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and this thread has been incredibly helpful! I was terminated last week for attendance issues - mostly due to my public transportation being unreliable during the winter months and a few family emergencies. Reading everyone's experiences gives me confidence to file my claim even though I'm worried about the misconduct aspect. One question I have - for those who successfully appealed or got approved, how important was it to have witnesses or third-party verification of your circumstances? I have some text messages to family members about the train delays and one email to my supervisor about a family emergency, but I'm wondering if that's enough or if I need more formal documentation. Planning to file this week and start gathering everything I can find!
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Ahooker-Equator
•@StarStrider Third-party verification definitely helps but don't stress if you don't have tons of it! Text messages and that email to your supervisor are actually really good evidence - they show real-time communication about the issues rather than after-the-fact documentation. For transportation delays, you might be able to get records from your transit authority showing service disruptions on the dates you were late. I've seen people successfully use screenshots of transit apps showing delays, photos of delay notices at stations, and even social media posts from the transit authority about service issues. The key is showing a pattern that matches your attendance problems. Even if you only have some documentation, file anyway - the adjudicator will consider the totality of your circumstances. Your situation with public transit issues during winter is very relatable and shows circumstances largely outside your control. Don't let perfect be the enemy of good when it comes to documentation!
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Mason Kaczka
I went through this exact situation about 8 months ago - fired for chronic lateness due to a combination of childcare issues and car problems. Here's what I wish I had known from the start: even though it feels hopeless, you absolutely should file your claim immediately. NYS Department of Labor will initially look at it as misconduct, but the adjudication process is where you can really make your case. I gathered everything I could think of - repair receipts, text messages about childcare emergencies, even my bank statements showing daycare payments to prove I had legitimate responsibilities. The adjudicator spent about 20 minutes on the phone with me going through each incident, and I was able to explain the circumstances behind every single tardy arrival. What really helped was creating a timeline matching each attendance issue to the specific problem that caused it. Even though I didn't have formal documentation at work, I could show these were real circumstances, not just excuses. My claim was approved after the appeal. Don't give up before you even try - the system is designed to help people who face genuine hardships, not just punish everyone who gets fired.
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Ava Garcia
•@Mason Kaczka Thank you so much for sharing your experience! This gives me a lot of hope. I m'curious about the timeline you mentioned - how long did the whole process take from when you first filed to when your appeal was approved? I m'trying to manage my expectations and budget accordingly since I have no income right now. Also, when you say you created a timeline matching each attendance issue to specific problems, did you present that as a written document during your phone interview with the adjudicator, or did you just reference it while talking? I m'wondering if I should prepare something formal to submit or if it s'more about being able to clearly explain everything verbally during the call.
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