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Zainab Khalil

Can you collect unemployment if you take early retirement? California EDD situation

So my company offered a voluntary early retirement package last month and I took it because honestly the writing was on the wall — they were going to start laying people off anyway and the package was decent. I'm 58, not actually ready to stop working, and I need income while I job hunt. Someone at the package signing meeting said you can't get unemployment if you accepted a buyout retirement deal. But I didn't want to retire, I wanted to stay employed. EDD's site wasn't super clear on this. Has anyone actually been through this and gotten approved? My last day is at the end of this month and I want to file right away.

Early retirement package accepted back in March, and UI Online showed Pending for about five weeks before anything moved. The package included a pension starting at 62 so I had no income coming in right now. Used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get a live EDD agent on the phone — the hold times on 1-800-300-5616 were brutal every morning I tried. The agent pulled up my claim and told me the pension wouldn't start for four years so there was nothing to deduct right now, and the pending weeks were held up because EDD needed to do a phone interview first about why I left. She said the interview notice, the DE 4800, would show the date and time and I just needed to keep my phone available at that time. The video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 is literally about reaching a live person at EDD, which is what I needed. After the interview cleared, two of my certified weeks paid out within a day.

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Five weeks pending is terrifying to read but also reassuring that it did eventually move. Did your package include any lump sum severance on top of the pension, and did that affect anything?

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The package had a lump sum. I reported it when I certified because EDD lists severance pay as something to report, and EDD decided how it counted. The agent didn't tell me it would be deducted — she said EDD's rules treat severance paid under a company plan differently from wages, so it didn't deny my benefits. But she was clear that I still had to report it and EDD makes the final call.

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Glad the interview sorted it out. The DE 4800 thing is worth repeating — a lot of people miss that notice and then wonder why nothing is moving.

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Wait, so accepting the package counts as a quit? Or a layoff? I always assumed early retirement buyouts were treated like layoffs since the company is offering money for you to leave.

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EDD doesn't automatically call it either. Because you agreed to leave, they treat it like a quit and you have to show you had a good reason. The good reason in this case is usually that the company was downsizing and the alternative was likely a layoff anyway — but EDD decides that after a phone interview where both you and the employer give your side.

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So basically don't assume you're approved just because they handed you an envelope with a check in it. Got it.

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Exactly. Filed the claim, got the interview notice, and during the interview I explained that the workforce reduction was already announced and I would have been in the next round. The interviewer asked a lot of questions about whether the departure was truly voluntary. Mine went fine but it took about three weeks after the interview for the determination to come.

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Does the retirement part of the package — like, actually being classified as retired — hurt the claim? My HR paperwork literally says 'retirement agreement' at the top.

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The label on the HR paperwork matters less than what actually happened and whether you're genuinely available and looking for work right now. If you took the package because you planned to fully stop working, that's a problem. If you took it because the company was shrinking and you still want a job and you're out there applying, EDD looks at the whole picture during the interview.

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I mean I definitely want to keep working, I just needed income during the search. So I should be clear about that in the interview.

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Being honest in that interview is really the whole thing. EDD asks specific questions about your intentions and your availability. Saying you want to work and then not registering in CalJOBS and doing zero job search is going to look bad if anything ever gets reviewed.

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CalJOBS registration — do you have to do that even if you're older and already have a strong professional network? Asking for a friend who thinks LinkedIn is basically the same thing.

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CalJOBS registration is a separate requirement from LinkedIn. Most claimants get a Notice of Requirement to Register for Work, the DE 8405, and have 21 days from that date to register and post a resume on caljobs.ca.gov. Missing that deadline can pause payments. EDD tells you if you're exempt — you can't just decide you are.

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Tell your friend to just do it. It takes maybe 20 minutes and it's not worth losing benefits over.

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My DE 8405 showed up about a week after I got the DE 429Z. I almost missed it because I thought it was junk mail. Register early.

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Slight correction to something said upthread — someone said the company has to prove the departure wasn't voluntary. That's not quite right. For a firing, the employer has to show there was misconduct. For a quit, you're the one who has to show there was a good reason. Early retirement packages where you signed and agreed to leave are treated more like a quit than a firing, so the burden is on you to explain why leaving made sense given your circumstances.

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Yes, that's the right way to read it. EDD's own language is basically: if you quit you need to show a good reason, and if you're fired the employer needs to prove misconduct. Two completely different tracks.

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This is actually a really important distinction and I had it backwards. Thanks for catching that.

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What's the weekly benefit amount like for someone who took an early retirement package? Like is it based on what you were earning before or does the retirement income change it?

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The weekly benefit amount comes from wages you earned in what EDD calls the base period — roughly the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you filed. It's calculated from actual wages, not from retirement income. The range runs from $40 to $450 a week in California. If a pension payment starts while you're collecting UI, that's a different conversation — EDD may reduce benefits based on it, and EDD decides by how much.

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So if my pension doesn't start for a few years I'm just being paid based on my old salary essentially. That's helpful, I had no idea the pension timing mattered.

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Same question I had. The answer about pension timing was not something I found on EDD's site at all, so good to know I should address this in my claim.

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The pension question matters a lot depending on your package. Mine doesn't kick in until 62 and I'm 57 now, so the agent I talked to confirmed it wasn't deducted from my current benefits. But she was clear that once I start drawing it, I'd need to report it and EDD would figure out if and how much it affects my weekly amount at that time.

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How did you get through to an agent? Every time I call I get the busy signal loop and then the line drops.

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Tried Claimyr after getting hung up on three times in a row. Ended up talking to an agent within the same morning — asked specifically about whether the deferred pension affected my current benefit weeks, and she confirmed the weeks I had certified were paid correctly. The DE 429Z I got in the mail matched what she told me.

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Okay I'll look into that. I keep trying right at 8am and it still doesn't work.

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Anyone know if taking the package and also getting a small consulting contract from the same company afterward messes up the claim? My former employer wants me to do some transition work for about 6 weeks.

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Part-time or limited work while collecting UI is allowed but you have to report every dollar earned for the week you did the work, not when they pay you. The first $25 or 25 percent of your gross for the week — whichever is bigger — doesn't count against you, and the rest gets subtracted from your weekly benefit amount. Full-time work for a week ends your eligibility for that week regardless of what it pays.

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So I'd just report the consulting hours and wages when I certify each two-week period. Okay that's actually not as scary as I thought.

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Use the Report Wages tool in UI Online before you certify each time — it helps you sort out the numbers for the week before you submit. Saves a lot of confusion.

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Didn't know that tool existed. Going to check it out tonight.

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My company's HR told me I would NOT qualify for unemployment because I accepted the early retirement package willingly. Is that true? They said it like it was a law.

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HR works for the company, not for EDD. EDD decides who qualifies — not your former employer. The employer gets notified when you file and can respond to EDD's questions, but they cannot deny your claim. File and go through the process. The interview is where you explain your circumstances.

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HR told me something similar and I filed anyway. Got approved after the phone interview. Don't let them talk you out of filing.

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Okay filing today. I was sitting on this for two weeks because of what HR said.

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Just want to flag something about the severance question that keeps coming up — vacation pay, holiday pay, and in-lieu-of-notice pay are all on EDD's list of things to report too. Not just severance. If your package included any of those, report them when you certify. EDD decides how they count. Don't guess.

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My package included about two weeks of unused vacation cash-out. I'll report it. Better safe than dealing with an overpayment notice later.

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Exactly that. An overpayment notice is way worse than a small reduction in one week's payment.

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This is the kind of thing nobody tells you at the signing meeting.

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Retired at 61 last year on a voluntary package and went through the whole process. The phone interview was the key moment — the interviewer wanted to know specifically whether the company had announced any workforce reductions before the package was offered. I had saved the company email about the restructuring and read from it during the interview. Having documentation ready made a real difference in how the conversation went.

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This is gold. I still have all the internal communications about the reorganization. I'll keep them close for the interview.

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Print them or have them on your screen. The interviewer goes fast and being able to quote specific language from company communications about the layoffs coming is way better than saying 'I think they were going to let people go.

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Does the interviewer actually want you to have documents ready or is it just verbal?

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Verbal mostly, but having the docs means your dates and facts are accurate. The interviewer is making notes and inconsistencies matter.

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Quick thing about the DE 429Z — that document shows your weekly benefit amount and total claim amount but it's not an approval letter. Some people think getting that in the mail means EDD said yes. It just shows the potential range of your claim. Eligibility gets decided separately after the interview and certifications.

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I made exactly that mistake. Got the DE 429Z and told my wife we were approved. Then the interview happened and I realized I still had to wait for a determination.

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Super common confusion. The determination comes later, and if EDD decides you don't qualify they send a Notice of Determination with an appeal form attached. That's the actual decision document.

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And you have 30 days from the mailing date on that notice to appeal in writing if you disagree with the outcome.

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Does anyone know if collecting unemployment while you took early retirement affects Social Security down the road? Like does it show up anywhere?

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Social Security benefits are not deducted from unemployment and you don't report them when certifying. How unemployment affects Social Security calculations is really a Social Security question, not an EDD one — EDD's rules don't speak to it. Worth asking a financial advisor or the SSA directly.

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Fair point. Wrong forum for that question probably. I'll ask SSA separately.

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EDD taxes are a different question though — UI benefits are federal taxable income even if California doesn't tax them. You can elect 10 percent federal withholding each time you certify, which a lot of people skip and then regret in April.

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EDD's phone lines are genuinely a nightmare. Called four days in a row at different times and got disconnected every single time before reaching anyone. My claim has been pending for two weeks since I filed after taking an early retirement offer and I have no idea what's missing.

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Two pending weeks right after filing is pretty normal for a voluntary separation — EDD needs to do the interview before they can pay anything. Check your UI Online homepage and your mail for the DE 4800, which is the notice that shows the interview date and time. That's the first thing to look for.

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Found the DE 4800 in a stack of mail I hadn't opened. Interview is Thursday. So I just keep my phone on and wait for them to call at that time?

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The interviewer phones at the time listed on that notice. Keep your phone on and don't let unknown numbers go to voicemail that day. If you miss it, phone EDD that same day.

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Went through this exact situation about eight months ago — took a voluntary package at 59, same fears about whether it counted as a quit. The key thing my determination notice said was that because the company had already announced the reduction in force before the package was offered, my departure had a valid reason behind it. Kept certifying every two weeks through the whole adjudication period even though it felt pointless. Those weeks all paid out once the determination came through.

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Certifying during adjudication — does that work automatically or do you have to specifically request those back weeks once it's resolved?

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You just keep certifying normally. EDD processes the back weeks once eligibility is confirmed. If you stopped certifying during the wait those weeks are gone — you can't go back and certify weeks you skipped.

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This thread probably just saved me from making that exact mistake. I was going to wait to certify until I heard something definitive.

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The CalJOBS requirement tripped me up — I registered but didn't post a resume because I wasn't sure what to put since I was 'retired.' EDD flagged it and my payments paused for about 10 days while it got sorted out. Post an actual resume, even if it's a little out of date.

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10 days paused just because of a resume? That's brutal.

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EDD's requirement is to register AND post a resume. Just registering an account isn't enough. I learned that the hard way.

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The DE 8405 spells out the deadline — 21 days from the date on that notice. Mark it on your calendar the day it arrives.

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Can you still qualify if your early retirement package had a clause where you agreed not to look for work at competing companies for 12 months? Non-compete clauses are pretty common in these packages.

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Unemployment requires you to be genuinely available for work every week you certify. If a non-compete agreement significantly limits where you can work, that's the kind of thing EDD would want to know about in the interview — availability is a real question. Whether a specific non-compete makes you unavailable under EDD's rules is EDD's call, not something anyone here can answer. Worth raising it directly with EDD.

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I figured as much. I'll bring it up in the interview and let them decide rather than trying to predict the answer myself.

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Transparency in the interview is always better than leaving things out and having them surface later.

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Someone mentioned getting an overpayment notice earlier in this thread and it made me anxious. What actually triggers one of those in an early retirement situation?

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Overpayments come up when EDD later determines you got paid weeks you weren't eligible for. In a retirement package situation this could happen if the interview goes badly and EDD finds the quit didn't have a valid reason but you already got paid some weeks before the determination. It could also happen if you didn't report income correctly — like consulting wages or severance — and EDD finds out later. Non-fraud overpayments have to be repaid but there's no penalty. Fraud ones add a 30 percent penalty and can get serious. Report everything accurately when you certify.

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So basically just be honest the whole way through and the risk is a lot lower. Okay.

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And appeal within 30 days if you ever get a notice you think is wrong. The appeal form DE 1000M comes with the overpayment notice. Don't just ignore a notice hoping it goes away.

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Applied last week after taking an early retirement package at 60. Filed through myEDD at https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ and the whole application took maybe 35 minutes. Had all my employer info and dates handy. UI Online showed my claim status right away. For anyone sitting on the fence about whether to file — just file. You don't know what EDD will decide until you go through the process and there's no cost to trying.

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Filing right away is definitely the right call. The claim starts on the Sunday of the week you apply so every week you delay is a week of potential benefits you can't get back.

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Wished I'd known that two weeks ago when I was scared to file because of what HR said.

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HR advice about unemployment eligibility is worth exactly nothing. File and let EDD decide.

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Also worth noting — EDD mails your claim documents including the DE 429Z in about two weeks. If anything on that notice looks wrong, appeal it in writing within 30 days of the mailing date. I didn't realize that until I found this forum.

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My early retirement package question is a little different — I accepted the package but my employer is now saying I quit voluntarily with no connection to any layoffs. They're going to tell EDD it was entirely my choice with no workforce reduction involved. How does EDD handle it when the two sides tell completely different stories?

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EDD does the phone interview with both you and the employer separately and weighs both accounts. Having documentation — emails about the restructuring, announcements about headcount cuts, anything in writing — matters a lot when the stories conflict. After both interviews EDD makes a decision and mails a Notice of Determination. If you disagree with the outcome you have 30 days from the mailing date to file a written appeal using the DE 1000M form that comes with the notice.

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So I need to gather everything I have in writing from before the package was offered. Got it. This is going to be a fight but at least I know the process now.

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Save everything. Company emails, announcements, meeting notes, anything with a date on it. The more contemporaneous documentation you have, the better your position in an appeal if it comes to that.

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Used Claimyr to reach EDD when my claim was stuck in adjudication for weeks and my employer was disputing the reason I left. The agent confirmed both interviews had been completed and that a Notice of Determination was being prepared and would come by mail. Knowing where in the process things actually were was worth a lot — I could stop obsessing over UI Online every hour waiting for something to change.

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