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Isabella Santos

Do dads qualify for EDD PFL baby bonding? NOT FMLA? Confused about application!

Can someone please explain if dads actually qualify for paid leave when our baby is born? I'm getting so much conflicting info! My wife is due in March 2025 and I want to take time off to bond with our newborn. My HR dept keeps talking about FMLA (unpaid?) but I've heard California has some kind of paid family leave for fathers too? Is that through EDD? How different is the application process from what moms do? My boss is already acting weird about me taking time off so I want to make sure I understand my rights before I submit anything officially. Thanks!

StarStrider

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Yes! Dads absolutely qualify for California Paid Family Leave (PFL) for baby bonding. This is completely different from FMLA. FMLA is federal and provides job protection but no pay. California PFL provides partial wage replacement (about 60-70% of your salary) for up to 8 weeks when bonding with a new child. The application process for dads is basically the same as for moms who are taking baby bonding leave. You'll file a claim through EDD using a DE2508 form. You can do this online through the EDD website or by mail. The key difference is that moms often transition from pregnancy disability leave to baby bonding, while dads just apply directly for baby bonding. You'll need proof of your relationship to the child and the birth date. The claim can be filed after the baby is born, and you typically have 12 months from the birth to use your PFL benefits. They don't have to be taken all at once either - you can split them up if needed.

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THANK YOU!! This is so helpful. So to be clear - FMLA is just job protection, and PFL is the actual payment part? Do I need to apply for both? My company has over 100 employees if that matters.

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Ravi Gupta

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my buddy just went thru this last year. he said its a huge pain trying to reach edd when youve got questions. took him like 5 tries to even talk to someone. but ya dads get the same 8 wks as moms for bonding. just dont mix up bonding with the pregnancy disability part cuz thats only for the person giving birth obvs

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Yeah I remember when my first kid was born in 2023 I spent THREE DAYS trying to get through to EDD about my claim!! Then when I finally got through the agent was super helpful but then my claim was still delayed another 2 weeks πŸ™„ The whole system is just designed to make you give up I swear.

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Omar Hassan

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YES dads qualify!!! My husband took 6 weeks when our daughter was born last year and it was amazing having him home. I took my disability leave first for recovery (that's only for moms) and then we both took PFL baby bonding at different times so baby had a parent home longer. FYI your employer might act weird but they CANNOT legally deny you this time. It's your RIGHT as a California worker who pays into SDI. Don't let them bully you! The only complicated part was making sure we had all the right documentation. Make sure you have: - Baby's birth certificate - Your ID - Proof of your relationship to the baby's mother And file the claim ASAP after the birth. The EDD site is honestly terrible to navigate but once approved the payments came through regularly.

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That's good to know about them not being able to deny it. My boss keeps making comments like "well I guess we'll see if that works with our project timeline" which feels really passive aggressive. Did your husband's employer give him any trouble?

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Congrats on the baby! Don't confused PFL and FMLA they're totally different things. I think you need to use BOTH actually. FMLA protects your job while PFL pays you. I'm pretty sure you can file for PFL online through EDD and you should do FMLA paperwork through your HR department.

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StarStrider

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Yes, this is correct! There are two separate processes: 1. FMLA (and potentially CFRA - California Family Rights Act) - these protect your JOB while you're out 2. PFL through EDD - this provides the PAYMENT while you're out You need both for complete protection and benefits. And yes, your employer with over 100 employees would definitely be covered under these protections.

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Diego Vargas

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I just went through this exact process in January with my son! Here's what you need to know: 1. Yes, dads 100% qualify for PFL baby bonding in California 2. It's completely separate from FMLA (which is unpaid) 3. You get 60-70% of your salary up to a max amount 4. The process is: wait until baby is born β†’ file claim with EDD using form DE2508 β†’ provide birth certificate β†’ receive benefits The biggest hassle was reaching EDD when I had questions. I kept getting disconnected or waiting forever. I finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to an agent in about 10 minutes after days of trying on my own. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5 The EDD agent explained everything and helped fix an issue with my claim. Totally worth it because I was losing my mind trying to reach someone while taking care of a newborn!

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CosmicCruiser

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is this claimyr thing legit? sounds too good to be true cuz NOBODY can get through to EDD. i spent 3 hours on hold last week before giving up

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StarStrider

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One important thing to note - if you want job protection AND paid benefits, you need to coordinate both FMLA/CFRA (for job protection) and PFL (for payment). Your timing is important too. With a March 2025 due date, you should: 1. Notify your employer in writing at least 30 days before your leave (if possible) 2. Submit FMLA/CFRA paperwork through your HR department 3. After the baby is born, apply for PFL through EDD using form DE2508 4. You can take your 8 weeks all at once, or split them up over the first 12 months Also, your employer CANNOT deny you this leave if you're eligible, regardless of project timelines. That's why these protections exist.

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This timeline is super helpful. So if my wife is due March 15, 2025, I should submit my FMLA paperwork by February 15th? And then I can't actually apply for PFL until after the baby is born? Is there any prep I can do ahead of time for the PFL part?

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MY BOSS WAS THE SAME WAY!!! I swear they act like taking leave for your CHILD is some kind of personal insult! When I took PFL for my baby the manager kept saying stuff like "must be nice to have a paid vacation" and I'm like IT'S NOT A VACATION I'M CARING FOR AN INFANT. Your boss is required by LAW to give you this time. Document EVERYTHING if they give you trouble.

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yup this happened to my husband too. his boss made snarky comments for weeks before he went on leave. then had the nerve to call him about work stuff when he was off! document everything!!

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CosmicCruiser

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i tried using Claimyr like the other person mentioned and it actually worked... got through to EDD in like 15 minutes after trying for days on my own. the agent fixed something on my PFL claim that was causing it to be delayed. just sharing since im normally skeptical of stuff like this

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StarStrider

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To answer your follow-up question - yes, notifying your employer by February 15th for a March 15th due date would be perfect timing for the FMLA/CFRA paperwork. For PFL, you can't submit the actual claim until after birth, but you can prepare by: 1. Creating an account on the EDD website now 2. Familiarizing yourself with the DE2508 form requirements 3. Gathering your personal information (SSN, ID, employment history) 4. Understanding your company's paid leave policies (some supplement PFL) Also, while PFL provides 8 weeks, FMLA/CFRA provides 12 weeks of job protection. Some fathers choose to use the additional 4 weeks unpaid for more bonding time, or save it for later in the year if needed.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you so much! One last question - I've heard the payments from EDD can take a while to start coming in. Is there typically a gap between when you start leave and when you get your first payment?

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Diego Vargas

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@OP regarding payment timing - Yes, there's usually a gap between starting leave and getting your first payment. In my experience, it took about 2-3 weeks after my claim was approved before I received the first payment. After that, they came every two weeks pretty reliably. I'd recommend having some savings to cover that initial gap. Some employers also allow you to use some paid vacation/PTO during this waiting period, which can help bridge the gap. Also, EDD pays about 60-70% of your wages up to a maximum (around $1,620/week in 2025), so budget for the reduced income during your leave period.

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Thanks for the heads up on the payment gap. I'll definitely make sure we have some extra savings to cover that period. Really appreciate all the detailed information from everyone!

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Just wanted to add my experience as a dad who took PFL in 2024 - the whole process was actually pretty straightforward once I understood the difference between FMLA and PFL. One thing that helped me was setting up my EDD account ahead of time like @StarStrider mentioned. When the baby came, I was able to file the DE2508 form online within a few days of getting the birth certificate. The hardest part was honestly dealing with my employer's attitude about it. They kept asking if I "really needed" the full 8 weeks and suggesting I could "work from home" during bonding leave. I had to remind them multiple times that this isn't vacation time - it's legally protected family leave that I'm entitled to as a California worker. Pro tip: Keep copies of ALL your paperwork (birth certificate, claim forms, correspondence with EDD) because you might need to reference them later. And don't let your boss guilt you about using your legal rights - you pay into SDI for exactly this reason! The bonding time with my daughter was absolutely priceless and worth navigating all the bureaucracy. Good luck with your little one!

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Eduardo Silva

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@Oliver Zimmermann Thank you for sharing your experience! It s'really encouraging to hear from other dads who ve'been through this process. The part about employers trying to guilt you into not taking your full leave really resonates with me - my boss has already started with the do "you really need that much time comments" and the baby isn t'even here yet! I m'definitely going to take your advice about setting up the EDD account early and keeping copies of everything. Did you end up taking all 8 weeks at once, or did you split them up? I m'trying to figure out the best approach for our family situation. Also really glad to hear the bonding time was worth all the hassle - that s'what this is all about at the end of the day!

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Hey there! Dad of twins here who went through this exact process in late 2024. Yes, fathers absolutely qualify for California PFL for baby bonding - it's one of the best kept secrets that more dads need to know about! A few practical tips from my experience: - You can actually start the PFL application process online before the baby arrives by creating your EDD account and reviewing the DE2508 form requirements - The 8 weeks don't have to be consecutive - I took 4 weeks immediately after birth, then saved the remaining 4 weeks for when my wife went back to work at 3 months - EDD's phone system is brutal, but their online portal actually works pretty well once you get familiar with it - Make sure your employer knows this is STATE law, not company policy - they can't negotiate away your rights One thing I wish someone had told me: California PFL is funded through employee payroll deductions (SDI), so you've literally been paying for this benefit with every paycheck. Don't feel guilty about using something you've already paid into! The bonding time was incredible and honestly made me a better dad. Your boss's attitude will change once they see you come back refreshed and ready to work. Stand your ground - this is about your family!

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@Katherine Ziminski This is exactly what I needed to hear! The point about already paying for this through SDI deductions is so important - I never thought about it that way but you re'absolutely right. I ve'been contributing to this system for years, so there s'no reason to feel guilty about using the benefits when I need them. The idea of splitting the 8 weeks is really smart too. Taking 4 weeks right after birth and then saving the other 4 for when your wife goes back to work sounds like it would give your family the maximum coverage. Did you have any issues with your employer when you took the second portion of leave later on? Also appreciate the reminder that this is STATE law, not company policy. I think my boss doesn t'fully understand that this isn t'something they can just decide to deny based on business "needs. Going" to make sure I emphasize that when I have the official conversation with HR. Thanks for the encouragement about standing my ground - it s'really helpful to hear from other dads who ve'successfully navigated this process!

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Joshua Hellan

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Just wanted to jump in as another dad who successfully navigated this process! My son was born in October 2024 and I took the full 8 weeks of PFL for bonding. A few things that really helped me: 1. **Documentation is key** - I kept a folder with all my paperwork (birth certificate copies, EDD correspondence, HR forms) and it saved me when there was a small hiccup with my claim. 2. **The "waiting week"** - Something I don't think anyone mentioned yet is that there's typically a one-week waiting period before benefits start, so factor that into your financial planning along with the processing delays others mentioned. 3. **Your employer's attitude will likely improve** - My boss was also making passive-aggressive comments before my leave, but once I actually took the time and came back refreshed and focused, the whole dynamic changed. They realized the world didn't end because I was gone for 8 weeks. 4. **Use your state representative if needed** - If EDD gives you major runaround, don't hesitate to contact your state assembly member's office. They have constituent services that can help cut through bureaucratic delays. The bonding time was absolutely life-changing. Those early weeks are so precious and you can never get them back. Don't let anyone make you feel bad for taking what's legally yours. You've earned this benefit through your payroll contributions, and your baby deserves to have their dad present during those crucial early weeks. Congrats on the upcoming arrival! March babies are the best 😊

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