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Javier Mendoza

Can I use unemployment first then PFL for my 3-month-old? Best order to maximize benefits?

Hey California parents! I'm trying to figure out the smartest way to maximize my benefits while spending more time with my 3-month-old son. I've already used up all my SDI (pregnancy disability) benefits, but I still have my full 8 weeks of PFL (baby bonding) available. I also have an open unemployment claim that doesn't expire until April 2025 with quite a bit of money left on it. My question is: Can I collect unemployment benefits first and THEN use my PFL baby bonding time afterward? Or do I have to use PFL immediately after SDI ends? I'm thinking if I do unemployment first, then PFL, I could maximize my total time home with my baby. But if I do PFL first and then try unemployment, I'm worried I might have issues qualifying since I'd be turning down work for those 8 weeks. Anyone done this before or know the right order to do these benefits? Really want to stretch my time at home with my little one as long as possible! Thanks!

You CAN use unemployment first and then PFL, but there are some important things to consider: 1. For unemployment, you must be able and available for work, actively looking for work, and willing to accept suitable work if offered. If you're caring for your baby full-time, this might be difficult to certify truthfully. 2. PFL can be taken anytime within the first 12 months after your child's birth, so you have flexibility on timing. 3. When you switch from unemployment to PFL, you'll need to notify EDD that you're no longer available for work because you'll be bonding with your child. 4. Your weekly benefit amount might be different between unemployment and PFL, so calculate which gives you more money weekly. I personally did unemployment first for about 6 weeks after my SDI ended, then switched to PFL for the full 8 weeks. It worked out fine, but I had to be very careful with my unemployment certifications.

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Thank you so much! This is super helpful. I didn't realize PFL could be taken anytime in the first year - that gives me more options. For unemployment, would I need to actually apply for jobs while caring for my baby? Or just be "available" technically? I'm trying to understand how strictly they enforce the job search requirements.

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i did this backwards and regret it!! used my pfl right after sdi then tried to get on unemployment but they said i wasnt looking for work during pfl (duh i was with my baby) and it messed up my claim. took 6 weeks to sort out and i lost benefits. definitely do unemployment first!!!

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Oh no, I'm so sorry that happened to you! This is exactly what I was worried about. Did you have to do anything special when switching from unemployment to PFL? Like formally close your unemployment claim first?

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The real question is whether you're ACTUALLY available for work right now. If you're taking care of a 3-month-old full-time with no childcare, then claiming unemployment is technically fraud because you're not truly available to accept work. EDD can audit you and demand repayment plus penalties if they determine you weren't eligible. I'm not judging - I know how hard it is financially with a baby - but be very careful about certifying that you're available for work if you aren't. They specifically ask if there was any reason you couldn't accept work each week.

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That's a really good point and something I hadn't fully considered. My mom can actually watch him part-time, so I could technically work, but I'd prefer to be with him if possible. I guess I need to be prepared to actually take a job if offered one during the unemployment period.

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I wanted to clarify something important: PFL does NOT need to be taken immediately after SDI. You have the full 12 months after birth to use your 8 weeks of baby bonding PFL benefits. They can be split up too - you can take 4 weeks now and 4 weeks later if you want. Also, make sure you're financially comparing the two benefits. In 2025, PFL pays 70% of your wages up to the maximum weekly benefit amount. Unemployment usually pays less. Calculate which gives you more money weekly to maximize your benefits. One strategy: Use unemployment until you find a good job opportunity, then use PFL before starting the new position. This gives you maximum flexibility and income.

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This is brilliant advice - thank you! I didn't realize I could split up the PFL weeks. My weekly benefit would be higher with PFL ($1,150/week) versus unemployment ($520/week), but unemployment would last longer potentially. I like your strategy about using unemployment until finding a job, then using PFL before starting. That seems like the best of both worlds!

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Has anyone else had NIGHTMARE trying to reach EDD to ask these kinds of questions?? I've been calling for 2 WEEKS trying to get clarification about switching from unemployment to PFL and either get disconnected or told the wait is 4+ hours!!! SO FRUSTRATING!!! All I want is a simple answer from someone official.

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Try using Claimyr.com - it got me through to an EDD agent in less than 30 minutes when I was having issues with my PFL claim. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/DOLxZQb92wM?si=6N1iCQ3a8Cdb2Ay5 I was skeptical but it actually connected me directly to an EDD rep who answered all my questions about transitioning between different benefits. Way better than calling for days and never getting through.

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i think everyones missing something important here... if ur still within the first 12 months after birth u can actually get more money by doing PFL first becuz it pays more weekly than unemployment? PFL pays 70% of ur salary in 2025 but unemployment has that low maximum. and then after PFL u can still get unemployment for however many weeks u have left on ur claim. thats what i did and it worked perfect for me. more money + same amount of time off.

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That's a good point about the payment rates! PFL would definitely pay me more weekly. I'm just worried about the transition to unemployment after PFL based on what someone else mentioned about having trouble qualifying. Did you have any issues going from PFL to unemployment?

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Just a warning that I've seen several people get hit with overpayment notices because they weren't truly available for work while on unemployment but caring for children. One friend had to repay $4,800 and was disqualified from benefits for a year. EDD has been cracking down on this specific issue lately. If you do unemployment, make sure you have childcare lined up and are ACTUALLY able to accept work. They can check if you're applying for jobs, and if you decline interviews or offers, that's a red flag. Document everything carefully.

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This happened to my sister!!! She had to pay back like $6k because they said she wasnt available during the weeks she certified. Its no joke - they really do investigate this stuff.

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Here's what I'd recommend based on what you've shared: 1. Calculate exact benefit amounts for both programs in your specific case 2. If you have part-time childcare available and are genuinely willing to work, start with unemployment 3. Give yourself a specific timeframe (maybe 8-10 weeks) on unemployment while job searching 4. Then transition to PFL before your baby turns 1 year old 5. Make sure to formally close your unemployment claim before starting PFL 6. When PFL ends, you can reopen your unemployment claim if needed The key is honest certification during unemployment. You must be able to work, available for work, and actively seeking work. Keep detailed records of your job search activities for at least 3 years in case of an audit.

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Thank you for laying it out so clearly! I'm going to follow this plan. I'll make sure my mom is available for childcare during the unemployment period so I can truthfully certify that I'm available and looking for work. Then I'll use my PFL before he turns 1. I really appreciate everyone's advice. It's been super helpful figuring out how to maximize my time with my baby while staying within the rules.

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who recently went through this exact situation! I used unemployment for 10 weeks first, then switched to PFL for the full 8 weeks when my daughter was about 5 months old. A few practical tips that helped me: - I set up interviews during my mom's babysitting days to show I was genuinely available for work during unemployment - I kept a detailed log of all job applications and interviews (saved my butt during an EDD review) - When I was ready to switch to PFL, I called EDD to formally close my unemployment claim first - don't just stop certifying - I reopened my unemployment claim after PFL ended and still had weeks remaining The transition worked smoothly because I was completely honest about my availability. During unemployment weeks, I was truly ready to work if the right opportunity came up. During PFL, I was 100% focused on bonding with my baby. One thing to note: your unemployment claim year doesn't pause during PFL, so factor that into your timing. But overall, this strategy gave me 18 weeks total at home with higher pay during the PFL portion. Worth the extra paperwork!

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Ev Luca

This is exactly the kind of detailed, real-world experience I was hoping to hear about! Thank you so much for sharing your timeline and practical tips. The point about keeping detailed logs of job applications is really important - I hadn't thought about potential EDD reviews down the line. And I definitely wouldn't have known to formally close the unemployment claim before starting PFL rather than just stopping certification. One quick question: when you reopened your unemployment claim after PFL, did you have to go through any kind of review process or was it pretty straightforward? I'm wondering if there are any red flags that come up when they see the gap for PFL in your claim history. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your experience - this gives me a lot more confidence about pursuing this strategy!

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As someone who just went through this decision myself, I can't stress enough how important it is to be 100% honest about your availability during unemployment. I made the mistake of certifying that I was available for work when I really wasn't (my daycare had a waiting list and I was essentially full-time caregiving), and EDD caught it during a routine audit 8 months later. I had to pay back $3,200 in unemployment benefits plus a 30% penalty. The stress and financial hit was way worse than just using PFL from the start would have been. If you genuinely have reliable childcare and are truly willing to accept job offers, then the unemployment-first strategy can work. But if there's any doubt about your actual availability, I'd honestly recommend just going straight to PFL. The peace of mind is worth it, and you'll still get good benefits without the risk of overpayment issues later. Also, keep in mind that job searching with a 3-month-old is EXHAUSTING even with help. Make sure you're being realistic about what you can actually handle during this time.

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Wow, thank you for sharing your experience even though it didn't go well - that takes courage and really helps the rest of us understand the real risks involved. A $3,200 repayment plus penalty is no joke, especially when you're already dealing with the financial pressures of a new baby. Your point about job searching with a 3-month-old being exhausting is so real. I'm already feeling overwhelmed just thinking about managing interviews and applications while sleep-deprived and caring for my son. I think you've helped me realize I need to be brutally honest with myself about whether I can truly commit to the job search process right now. My mom can help with babysitting, but if I'm being completely honest, I'm not sure I'm mentally ready to jump back into work mode yet at only 3 months postpartum. Maybe the safer route really is just going with PFL first, even if it means less total time off. The stress of potentially having to repay thousands later definitely isn't worth the gamble. Thanks for the reality check!

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I'm in a very similar situation with my 4-month-old daughter! After reading through all these responses, I'm leaning toward using PFL first even though it means less total time off. The overpayment horror stories really got my attention - I can't afford to risk having to pay back thousands plus penalties. And honestly, even with my partner able to watch the baby part-time, I'm not sure I'm mentally ready to be "on" for job interviews and applications right now. The sleep deprivation is real! One thing I'm curious about - has anyone successfully used PFL in chunks rather than all 8 weeks at once? Like maybe 4 weeks now and saving 4 weeks for later in the year when daycare spots might open up? I'm wondering if that flexibility might be a good middle ground. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences, both good and bad. This community is so helpful for navigating these complex benefit decisions!

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Yes, you absolutely can split up your PFL weeks! I did exactly that - took 4 weeks when my son was 2 months old, then saved the other 4 weeks for when he was 8 months old and I wanted to be home during a rough teething phase. You just need to file separate PFL claims for each period you want to take time off. The only requirement is that all 8 weeks must be used within the first 12 months after birth. EDD was actually really helpful when I called to ask about splitting it up - they walked me through the process. This could be a great strategy for you! Take some bonding time now while you're still recovering and adjusting, then save the rest for later when you might need it for daycare transitions, illness, or just wanting more time together before going back to work. Much less risky than trying to navigate the unemployment availability requirements when you're not really ready.

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I'm also navigating this decision with my 2-month-old twins! Reading everyone's experiences has been incredibly eye-opening, especially the warnings about EDD audits and overpayment issues. After going through all the responses, I think I'm convinced that honesty is absolutely crucial here. The unemployment system requires that you be genuinely available for work - not just technically available on paper. With newborns, that's a really high bar to meet consistently. What's swaying me toward the PFL-first approach is that even though it might mean less total time off, it's guaranteed money without the stress of potentially having to pay back benefits later. Plus at 2-3 months postpartum, I'm realizing I'm probably not in the best headspace to be competitive in job interviews anyway. For those who successfully did unemployment first - were you actually applying to jobs you wanted, or just going through the motions to meet requirements? I'm worried about accidentally getting a job offer I'd have to turn down, which could mess up my eligibility. The flexibility of splitting PFL into chunks also sounds really appealing. Maybe 6 weeks now while I'm still adjusting to life with twins, then 2 weeks later for a smooth daycare transition. Thanks everyone for being so transparent about both the successes and mistakes!

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Your approach sounds really smart, especially with twins! That's double the exhaustion and double the unpredictability, so being realistic about your availability for work is crucial. I love your plan to split the PFL - 6 weeks now and 2 weeks later for daycare transition. That's exactly the kind of flexibility that makes PFL so valuable. You're giving yourself time to recover and bond now, plus insurance for later challenges. You're absolutely right about the headspace issue too. I remember being so sleep-deprived at 2-3 months that I could barely hold a coherent conversation, let alone nail a job interview! The guaranteed PFL money without audit risk sounds like the way to go for your situation. One tip for your daycare transition weeks - if you end up loving your daycare and wanting to start earlier, you can always use those remaining 2 PFL weeks for something else within that first year, like if the twins get sick or you just want some extra bonding time during the holidays. The flexibility is amazing. Wishing you the best with those sweet twins! You're being so thoughtful about planning this out.

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Reading through everyone's experiences has been so helpful! As someone who just started this process with my 2-month-old, I wanted to share what I've decided after weighing all the options. I initially wanted to do unemployment first to maximize total time off, but the overpayment stories really scared me. The reality is, with a 2-month-old who's still not sleeping through the night, I'm honestly not in the right headspace to be genuinely "available and actively seeking work" that unemployment requires. I've decided to go with PFL first - all 8 weeks starting next month. Even though it means less total time off compared to doing unemployment first, the peace of mind is worth it. No risk of audits, no stress about job applications I'm not mentally ready for, and I get the higher weekly benefit amount ($980/week vs $450/week unemployment in my case). The plan is to use PFL now for pure bonding time, then reassess in a few months when I'm more recovered and my son is more predictable. If I still need more time off, I can explore unemployment then when I'm truly ready to work if the right opportunity comes up. For anyone else struggling with this decision - trust your gut about whether you're genuinely ready to work right now. The extra few weeks off aren't worth the financial and legal risks if you can't honestly meet unemployment requirements.

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