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Giovanni Martello

Will CalWORKs changes affect SSI recipients? Confused about benefit overlap

Hi everyone, I'm really confused about some CalWORKs changes I heard about recently. Will they affect people who get SSI? My aunt lives with me and gets SSI, but my kids and I get CalWORKs. Someone at the grocery store told me there's going to be changes to the CalWORKs program in 2025 that might affect SSI too, and now I'm worried my aunt might lose her benefits or that it might somehow affect our household's eligibility. We're already struggling to make ends meet every month. I tried calling my caseworker yesterday but got stuck on hold for over an hour before having to pick up my kids. Anyone know if SSI and CalWORKs are connected in some way? Thanks!

SSI (Supplemental Security Income) and CalWORKs are completely separate programs with different funding sources and eligibility requirements. Changes to one program don't directly affect the other program's rules. Here's what you should know: - SSI is a federal program administered by Social Security - CalWORKs is a state program administered by county welfare departments - SSI recipients are NOT eligible for CalWORKs for themselves - BUT SSI recipients don't count in the CalWORKs household size or income calculations So any changes to CalWORKs rules in 2025 would not affect your aunt's SSI. And your aunt receiving SSI shouldn't affect your CalWORKs eligibility as long as you've been reporting your household composition correctly on your SAR7 and recertification forms.

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Thank you so much for explaining! That's a huge relief. So even though we live together, her SSI doesn't count against our CalWORKs? The caseworker knows she lives with us, I always list her on our paperwork, but I was worried maybe I was doing something wrong all this time.

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my neighbor told me the same thing but it turned out she was confusing CalWORKs with CalFresh. there ARE some changes coming to food benefits but SSI people have been able to get CalFresh since 2019 i think. before that they couldnt. maybe thats what the person was talking about?

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Maybe that's what they meant! It's so confusing when there are so many different benefit programs with similar names. The person definitely mentioned something about food benefits too, so you're probably right. Thanks!

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I've been on both SSI and CalWORKs (not at the same time) and they're completely separate systems. Your aunt's SSI is 100% safe from any CalWORKs changes. SSI is federal and much more stable than state benefits. BUT!!!! Make sure you've been reporting your household composition correctly all along. If you've been telling CalWORKs it's just you and your kids while your aunt lives with you, that could be a problem. Even though her income doesn't count, they still need to know everyone in the home.

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Yes, I've always listed her on our paperwork as living with us but not part of our CalWORKs assistance unit. The worker told me when we first applied that she's exempt from our case because of her SSI. So I think we're good there!

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Theres always rumors going around about benefit changes! I hear something new every month at the laundromat lol. Most of it is just people mixing up different programs. Don't stress until you get an OFFICIAL notice in the mail from the county.

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The only connection between SSI and CalWORKs is in household composition reporting. As others have said, a person cannot receive both SSI and CalWORKs simultaneously. SSI recipients are excluded from the CalWORKs assistance unit, and their income is not counted for CalWORKs eligibility. What might be causing confusion is that there ARE sometimes policy updates that affect multiple programs simultaneously, but they're implemented separately by each program. For example, when income reporting thresholds change, they might change for several programs around the same time. If you're ever concerned about how a change might affect your benefits, I'd recommend trying to reach your worker directly rather than relying on word-of-mouth information. I know the phone lines can be frustrating though - I've had success using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get through to my county worker without the long hold times. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/jzISHxCPLwE

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Thanks for the tip about Claimyr! I'll check that out because the hold times are impossible with my schedule. I need to talk to my worker anyway about a few other questions I have.

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BE CAREFUL!!! If your aunt pays any portion of rent or bills, you NEED to report that as contribution to the household on your SAR7!!! My cousin got in huge trouble for not reporting that her mom (on SSI) was paying $200/month toward bills. They counted it as unreported income and she had to pay back like $4,000!!!!

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This is actually incorrect information. SSI recipients are excluded household members for CalWORKs, and their income (including any contribution to household expenses) is NOT counted when determining CalWORKs eligibility or benefit amounts. The scenario you're describing sounds like it might have involved other unreported income or a different situation entirely.

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oh maybe i got it backwards then? it might have been that my aunt on calworks wasn't reporting that she was paying rent to her daughter who was on SSI? idk it was a few years ago i just remember there was a big overpayment because someone wasn't reporting something correctly

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I have worked as an eligibility worker in the past. Let me clarify a few things: 1) SSI and CalWORKs are entirely separate programs 2) An individual cannot receive both SSI and CalWORKs simultaneously 3) SSI recipients are excluded from the CalWORKs household/Assistance Unit 4) The income of an SSI recipient is exempt/not counted for CalWORKs purposes 5) Just make sure you're correctly reporting your household composition If your aunt receives SSI and is properly reported as living in your home but not part of your CalWORKs AU (Assistance Unit), then any changes to CalWORKs will not affect her SSI benefits whatsoever. Don't worry about rumors you hear from others. Always verify information directly with your eligibility worker.

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Thank you for the clear explanation! It's been hard getting accurate information. I don't know why the person at the store would say something like that and get me all worried for nothing. I appreciate your help!

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I'm glad you got such helpful answers here! I'm new to navigating benefits myself and this conversation really helped me understand the difference between SSI and CalWORKs too. It's scary when you hear rumors about changes to programs you depend on. I've found that people sometimes mix up information between different benefit programs or repeat things they heard third-hand without really understanding them. It sounds like you're doing everything right by reporting your aunt's presence in your household correctly. Thanks to everyone who shared their knowledge - this community is such a valuable resource for getting accurate information!

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