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I'm following this thread closely because I'm actually in a very similar situation right now - just moved from San Francisco County to Alameda County and dealing with some case transfer issues. Not as serious as a fraud investigation, but the lack of communication between counties is real. One thing I wanted to add that might be helpful: when I called Riverside County's CalFresh office to ask about transferring cases, they mentioned they have a "Complex Case Unit" that specifically handles situations involving previous overpayments, fraud investigations, and inter-county transfers. You might want to ask to be connected to that unit directly when you apply - they're apparently much better equipped to handle these kinds of situations than regular intake workers. Also, I've seen people mention this in other threads, but make sure you get a receipt or confirmation number for EVERYTHING you submit - whether it's your appeal documents to LA County or your new application to Riverside. The counties have been better about tracking submissions lately, but things still get lost sometimes. Your situation is so frustrating because you clearly tried to do everything right by notifying your caseworker. The system should protect people who are being honest and following the rules, not punish them. Really hoping both your appeal and new application go smoothly!
Thank you so much for mentioning the "Complex Case Unit" - that's exactly the kind of insider information I was hoping to find! I had no idea Riverside County had a specialized unit for these situations. I'm definitely going to ask to be transferred to them directly when I call tomorrow instead of going through regular intake. That could save me so much time and confusion. The receipt/confirmation number tip is also really valuable. I've already learned the hard way that things can get lost in the system, so I'll be extra diligent about documenting everything going forward. It's interesting that you're dealing with case transfer issues too between SF and Alameda - it really does seem like this is a systemic problem across all the counties. I hope your situation gets resolved quickly! If you end up learning any other useful tips during your process, I'd love to hear about them. Thanks for following along and sharing these practical suggestions. Having this community support makes navigating this bureaucratic maze so much less overwhelming. I'll definitely update everyone once I get through both the appeal and application processes!
I'm so sorry you're dealing with this nightmare! The county system's handling of temporary moves is absolutely broken. I went through something similar when I had to relocate temporarily for a family emergency. A few practical things that really helped me: 1. When you file your appeal with LA County, request ALL your case files and communication records. Sometimes there's documentation in there that proves you did report the move properly, even if the caseworker claims otherwise. 2. For your Riverside application, consider scheduling your eligibility interview for late in the day if possible. I found that caseworkers tend to have more time to actually listen and review complex situations when they're not rushing through morning appointments. 3. Bring a written statement explaining the entire timeline of events, along with any proof of your temporary work opportunity in San Bernardino (job offer letter, emails, etc.). This shows the move was legitimate and temporary, not an attempt to defraud the system. 4. If you have any bank statements showing transactions in LA County during the period they claim you were "living" in San Bernardino, that could be helpful evidence too. With your income and housing costs, you absolutely deserve food assistance. Don't let their administrative incompetence discourage you from applying in Riverside. The vast majority of these inter-county situations get resolved once you get in front of someone who actually understands the rules. Hang in there - you're doing everything right!
This is exactly why I always recommend keeping a detailed log of every interaction with CalFresh - date, time, worker name/ID, what was discussed, and any reference numbers. It's saved me so many times when workers claim they never received something or that I was told something different. Also, if you're comfortable sharing, what county are you in? Some counties have better phone systems than others - like LA County has a callback option now where you don't have to stay on hold. And definitely follow up on that appeal advice from Diego - they absolutely cannot cut benefits without proper notice specifying exactly what's missing. The fact that your letter just said "missing verification" with no details is a clear procedural violation.
I'm so sorry you're going through this - the 3+ hour wait times are absolutely ridiculous and shouldn't be normal in 2025. I'm dealing with something similar right now where my case worker seems to have "lost" my recertification paperwork even though I submitted everything on time through the portal. One thing that's helped me is taking screenshots of EVERYTHING when I upload documents - the confirmation page, the timestamp, even the file names. I also learned you can request a "telephonic hearing" for your appeal which means you don't have to take another day off work to go to the office in person. And definitely ask for that Case Review Conference that others mentioned - it's way faster than a formal appeal. The system is completely broken and it's designed to wear us down until we give up. But don't let them win - your kids deserve those benefits and you've earned them through your work. Keep fighting and document everything. You've got this! 💪
Thank you so much Maria! I'm definitely going to start taking screenshots of everything from now on - that's such a smart idea. I'm in Riverside County if that helps anyone else reading this. The telephonic hearing option sounds perfect since I really can't afford to miss more work. It's frustrating that we have to become experts at navigating this broken system just to get basic help feeding our families, but I really appreciate everyone sharing their tips and experiences. Makes me feel less alone in this mess!
I'm so sorry you're going through this - EBT theft is incredibly stressful and the denial just makes it worse. Reading through all the advice here, it sounds like you have a really strong case for your appeal! One thing that might help: when you file your appeal, make sure to emphasize that the transactions occurred at a location you've NEVER visited and that's 30 miles from your home. This kind of geographic evidence is exactly what appeals officers look for when determining if theft actually occurred vs. cardholder negligence. Also, if you still have the original packaging or receipt from when you first got your EBT card, bring that to show when you received it and that you've been protecting it properly. Some people don't think to save that stuff but it can help establish your pattern of responsible card handling. The appeals process is frustrating but don't give up - so many people here have had success fighting these wrongful denials. You clearly reported it promptly and have good evidence. Wishing you the best of luck! 🍀
Thank you for the encouragement! I really appreciate everyone's support here. I actually just realized I do still have the envelope my EBT card came in - it has the date I received it which was only about 2 months ago, so that might help show I've been responsible with it. All this advice about geographic evidence and documentation is giving me so much more confidence. I was feeling completely defeated after getting that denial letter, but now I feel like I have a real plan to fight this. It's amazing how much this community has helped me understand my rights and what evidence I need. I'm going to start gathering everything tomorrow and file that appeal ASAP. Thank you again! ❤️
I'm so sorry this happened to you! EBT theft is becoming a huge problem and it's frustrating that counties are automatically denying claims without proper investigation. I went through something similar last year - $520 stolen from my card at locations I'd never been to, and they initially denied it too. The advice everyone's given here is spot on, especially about getting your location data and transaction history. What really helped my case was creating a timeline document that showed: - When I discovered the theft - When I reported it (same day) - My normal shopping locations vs. where the fraud occurred - Proof I was elsewhere during the fraudulent transactions The 30-mile distance and the fact you've never shopped at that store is HUGE evidence in your favor. Make sure to get a detailed map showing the distance between your home and the fraud location - visual evidence is very compelling at hearings. Also, don't let them rush you during the appeal process. You have the right to present all your evidence and ask questions about their decision. The burden is on THEM to prove you were negligent, not on you to prove your innocence. Stay strong and don't give up - you have every right to those benefits back!
This is such helpful advice! Creating a timeline document is a brilliant idea - I hadn't thought about organizing all the evidence that way but it makes so much sense. I'm definitely going to map out exactly when I discovered the theft, reported it, and compare that to my normal shopping patterns. The visual map showing the 30-mile distance is a great suggestion too. It's so reassuring to hear from someone who actually won their appeal after an initial denial. Thank you for reminding me that the burden of proof is on THEM - I was starting to feel like I had to prove my innocence when really they need to prove I was negligent. This gives me so much confidence to fight this properly!
As a newcomer to this community, I'm really grateful to have found this thread! @Dmitry Ivanov, your experience going from $23 to $180 is such an important story that shows how broken the initial application process can be. It's incredible that you had to essentially re-advocate for yourself just to get the benefits you were actually entitled to from the beginning. What really strikes me is how many of us newcomers are commenting about learning things we never knew - like the Standard Utility Allowance or childcare deductions. It makes me think there are probably thousands of families out there getting inadequate benefits simply because they don't know what questions to ask or that these deductions even exist. @Ava Garcia and @Zainab Ismail - thank you for providing such detailed, actionable advice. The breakdown of the calculation process and the tip about Claimyr are exactly the kind of real-world guidance that makes navigating these systems actually possible. This community is clearly filling a huge gap that should probably be addressed at the policy level. For other newcomers reading this: definitely save this thread and don't hesitate to call your caseworker if your benefit amount seems too low. As this discussion shows, persistence and knowing what to ask for can make a life-changing difference!
@Fiona Gallagher Absolutely agree! As another newcomer, I m'blown away by how much essential information isn t'clearly communicated during the application process. Reading through @Dmitry Ivanov s journey'really highlights how the system seems to rely on applicants already knowing what deductions they re entitled'to, which is completely backwards. What s been'most valuable to me is seeing the specific dollar amounts - like how @Ava Garcia mentioned the Standard Utility Allowance is around $520, and how adding $400 in childcare expenses made such a huge difference in the calculation. Having these concrete numbers helps newcomers like us understand what we should be looking for in our own situations. I m also bookmarking'@Zainab Ismail s Claimyr recommendation because'waiting on hold for 45+ minutes just to talk to someone shouldn t be the norm.'It s amazing that this'community has figured out workarounds for the system s inefficiencies. Really grateful'for everyone who took the time to share their knowledge and experiences here - it s going to help'so many families get the support they actually deserve!
As a newcomer to this community, I'm so grateful I found this thread! @Dmitry Ivanov, your story is both inspiring and infuriating - inspiring that you were able to get your benefits increased from $23 to $180, but infuriating that the system made you jump through hoops to get what you were entitled to in the first place. This discussion has been incredibly educational for someone like me who's just starting to navigate CalFresh. I had no idea about deductions like childcare expenses or the Standard Utility Allowance that @Ava Garcia explained so well. It's shocking that these aren't automatically included or at least clearly explained during the application process. What really stands out is how this community stepped up to provide the real-world guidance that the official system seems to lack. @Zainab Ismail's tip about Claimyr could be a game-changer for people trying to actually reach their caseworkers, and everyone sharing their specific experiences helps newcomers understand what to expect and advocate for. It makes me wonder how many families are struggling with inadequate benefits simply because they don't know what questions to ask. Thank you all for creating such a supportive space for sharing knowledge - it's clear this kind of peer support is essential for successfully navigating these complex systems!
@Dmitry Sokolov Welcome to the community! Your comment really captures what many of us newcomers are feeling after reading through this thread. It s'both encouraging to see @Dmitry Ivanov s'success story and deeply concerning that the system seems designed to underpay people unless they know exactly what to advocate for. As someone brand new here, I m'amazed by the wealth of practical knowledge this community has shared - from the specific dollar amounts for deductions to tools like Claimyr for actually reaching caseworkers. It really highlights how peer support can fill the gaps that official channels leave behind. What strikes me most is how @Dmitry Ivanov s'experience could be happening to countless families right now who just don t'know that $23 isn t'necessarily what they should be getting. This thread should honestly be required reading for anyone applying for CalFresh benefits. Thank you to everyone who contributed their knowledge and experiences - you re'literally helping put food on families tables!'
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Congratulations on your new baby! You should definitely see an increase in your CalFresh benefits. Each person in your household counts toward the benefit calculation, so adding your newborn will bump up your monthly amount. Based on what others have shared here, you're probably looking at an extra $120-180 per month. I'd recommend calling first thing in the morning (like 8:30am) or right after lunch around 1pm - those tend to be less busy times. Have your baby's birth certificate ready and mention any childcare costs for your 3-year-old since that can also affect your benefit amount. The increase should be backdated to when you report the change, not when they finally process it, so don't delay! Good luck getting through to them.
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Natasha Volkova
•Thanks for the timing tips! I never thought about calling right after lunch - that's really smart. I'll try that today since mornings are crazy with the baby and toddler. Really hoping I can get through soon because formula prices are no joke! Everyone here has been so helpful with the realistic expectations about the increase amount.
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NebulaNinja
Congrats on your new baby! Yes, you'll definitely get an increase for your second child. Each household member counts in the CalFresh calculation, so adding your newborn should boost your benefits by roughly $120-200/month (the exact amount depends on your income and expenses). Make sure to report the change within 10 days - you can try the BenefitsCal website first, but calling is usually more reliable for adding household members. Have your baby's birth certificate ready, and don't forget to mention your daycare costs for your 3-year-old since childcare expenses can increase your benefits too. The increase should be backdated to when you report it, not when they process it, so don't wait! Try calling early morning or mid-afternoon to avoid peak times.
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Thank you so much for all the helpful advice! I'm definitely going to call first thing tomorrow morning with the birth certificate ready. It's really reassuring to hear from everyone that I should expect an increase - I was worried maybe there was some weird rule about only getting benefits for one kid. The daycare expense tip is especially helpful since I hadn't thought to mention that. Fingers crossed I can actually get through to someone without waiting on hold for hours!
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