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1099 contractor with CalFresh: Keeping EBT balance when income fluctuates & confusion about 40% deduction rule

Hey everyone, I'm a gig worker/freelancer with 1099 income that goes up and down like crazy. Been getting CalFresh for 6 months but still confused about a few things: 1) If my monthly income suddenly spikes and I'm temporarily over the limit, do they take back the existing balance on my EBT card? Or do I just get reduced benefits going forward? 2) My work is super inconsistent - sometimes I make $3500, sometimes barely $900, and sometimes I travel for a month and earn nothing. Do I seriously need to report EVERY time I go over the Income Reporting Threshold (IRT)? Or can I just wait till my SAR7 is due and let them figure it out then? (I heard they just adjust future benefits if you get overpaid) 3) I'm totally lost about the 40% business expense deduction thing. When the county calculates if I'm over the IRT, is it based on my GROSS deposits in my bank account, or is it after they subtract the 40% for expenses? Every worker tells me something different and I'm paranoid about accidentally committing fraud or something. Thanks for any help!!

Hey there! I was in your exact situation last year. Here's what I learned the hard way: 1) Good news - they don't take back money already on your EBT card. Whatever is loaded is yours to use, even if your income changes. They'll just adjust future benefits. 2) You are SUPPOSED to report within 10 days whenever your income goes above your IRT (the Income Reporting Threshold they gave you in your approval letter). But realistically, many people just report on their SAR7. If you don't report temporary income spikes, they might calculate an overpayment when they review your SAR7, and they could reduce your future benefits to recoup it. 3) The 40% thing confused me too! For 1099 contractors, CalFresh gives you a standard 40% deduction from your gross income for business expenses (unless you claim actual expenses). So your "countable income" for the IRT is your gross deposits MINUS 40%. For example, if your IRT is $2,000 and you make $3,000 in a month, after the 40% deduction your countable income would be $1,800, so you'd still be under your IRT.

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Mei Lin

OMG thank you for this clear explanation!! This is the first time someone explained the 40% thing in a way that makes sense. So basically I should take whatever hits my bank account each month, subtract 40%, and if THAT number goes over my IRT, then I need to report? This is so much better than I thought!

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i wouldnt stress about the reporting thing too much tbh. ive had calfresh for 3 yrs and my income changes all the time. i just fill out the sar7 when they send it and thats it. never had a problem

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Just to clarify - this approach isn't technically correct according to CalFresh regulations. The rules specifically state you must report within 10 days when your income exceeds your IRT. Not reporting can potentially lead to an overpayment claim and even potential penalties for intentional program violations in serious cases.

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Let me clarify something important about the EBT balance question. Once benefits are issued to your card, that money is YOURS. They cannot and will not take it back even if your circumstances change. However, if they determine you received benefits you weren't eligible for (due to unreported income), they can: 1. Reduce future monthly benefits until the overpayment is paid back 2. If you stop getting benefits, they may send you a bill 3. In extreme cases, they might refer cases for collection For your IRT reporting - yes, technically you must report within 10 days when your MONTHLY income exceeds your IRT. The 40% business expense deduction DOES apply when calculating if you're over the IRT. If your IRT is $2,500 and you make $3,800 in a month, your countable income after the 40% deduction would be $2,280 ($3,800 - $1,520), so you'd still be under your IRT and wouldn't need to report until your SAR7. Check your most recent Notice of Action letter to see your specific IRT amount.

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Mei Lin

Thank you for this detailed info! One more question - since my income fluctuates SO much, if I go over the IRT one month but then way under the next month, am I setting myself up for a huge headache by reporting every spike? Will they just keep recalculating my benefits every month?

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The whole system is designed to TRIP YOU UP I swear!!! I'm also self-employed and they made me submit bank statements, invoices, expenses, everything under the sun! Then gave me THREE DIFFERENT ANSWERS about how to calculate my income! One worker said I needed to report gross, another said net after 40%, and another told me I needed to track actual expenses! Then they cut my benefits because I "failed to report" even though I DID report but to a different worker who apparently didn't record it in their system!!! BEYOND FRUSTRATED with CalFresh right now!!!!

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I feel your pain! The inconsistency between workers is maddening. Have you tried asking for a supervisor when you call? Sometimes they're more knowledgeable about self-employment rules.

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When I had this same income reporting confusion, I spent FOUR HOURS trying to reach someone at the county office. Kept getting disconnected or stuck on hold forever. Finally I found this service called Claimyr that got me through to a real person at the CalFresh office in about 15 minutes. They basically wait on hold for you then call you when a real person picks up. Saved me a massive headache. Their site is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/eZ19FHRETv8?si=_CXnXqNXbLl26WB8 Worth it because the worker I finally spoke with gave me clear written instructions about exactly how to report my 1099 income and what documentation to keep.

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Mei Lin

Omg thank you for this tip! I've literally wasted entire mornings trying to reach someone. Will definitely check this out because I need to talk to someone who actually knows the rules for self-employment income.

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To add some important clarification regarding your questions: 1) Benefits already issued to your EBT card remain available to you regardless of income changes. 2) According to CalFresh regulations for self-employment in California, you must report when your monthly income exceeds your assigned IRT. The proper calculation is: * Gross self-employment income * MINUS 40% standard deduction (or actual expenses if you choose to itemize) * EQUALS countable income for IRT comparison 3) For the SAR7 semi-annual report, you must report ALL income received during the report month, regardless of whether you previously reported it during mid-period reporting. 4) If you travel and earn zero income some months, this is beneficial to report as it may increase your benefit amount for those months. Keep all documentation of your income and expenses. For 1099 workers, CalFresh requires verification of income which can include bank statements, invoices, tax returns, and a self-declaration of business expenses. Lastly, understand that any unreported income that results in an overpayment will be recouped through future benefit reductions, typically at 10% of your monthly allotment or $10, whichever is higher.

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Mei Lin

Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! One last question - does the county have access to see my bank deposits automatically, or do they only know what I report to them? I'm just trying to understand how they verify everything.

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To answer your last question - no, the county doesn't automatically see your bank deposits. However, during recertification or sometimes for verification, they may ask you to submit bank statements. They can also do what's called an Income Eligibility Verification System (IEVS) check which matches against tax records and other government databases. While they don't monitor your accounts in real-time, providing false information can lead to serious consequences. It's always best to report accurately, even when it's complicated with variable income. Based on everything in this thread, here's what I recommend for your situation: 1. Calculate your countable income each month (gross minus 40%) 2. Compare to your specific IRT (on your approval letter) 3. Report if you exceed it 4. Keep documentation of all income and business expenses 5. Complete your SAR7 accurately when due This approach keeps you compliant while minimizing unnecessary reporting for minor fluctuations.

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Mei Lin

This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'll dig up my approval letter to check my exact IRT. I think I've been overthinking this and making it more complicated than it needs to be. Really appreciate all the detailed guidance from everyone!

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wait so now i'm confused... do we report based on what we deposit or what we make? cuz i get paid in cash sometimes and that never goes in my account but its still income right?

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Yes, you need to report ALL income regardless of how you receive it - direct deposit, paper checks, cash, Venmo, PayPal, etc. The 40% deduction applies to your total income from self-employment, not just what goes into your bank account. Not reporting cash income would be considered misrepresentation and could lead to an overpayment situation or worse.

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@OP - Just to follow up, I noticed some comments mentioning consequences for not reporting properly. Don't panic about this! In my experience, if you make an honest mistake, they'll just calculate an overpayment and reduce future benefits slightly to recoup it. They don't immediately jump to fraud accusations or anything. The key is to be honest once you understand the rules. I actually had this happen last year - I didn't understand the IRT reporting and ended up with a $340 overpayment that they're collecting by reducing my monthly benefits by $34. It's annoying but not the end of the world. Just start following the correct procedure going forward and you should be fine!

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Mei Lin

Thanks for sharing your experience! That's reassuring to hear. I definitely want to do this right going forward. I'm going to carefully track everything and report properly now that I understand better.

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As someone who's been navigating CalFresh with irregular income for a couple years now, I wanted to add a practical tip that's helped me stay organized: I created a simple spreadsheet where I track my monthly gross income, calculate the 40% deduction, and note whether it's over my IRT. This way I have a clear record of what I've reported and when. I also keep screenshots of any online reports I submit or notes from phone calls with case workers. One thing that caught my attention in this thread - if you're getting conflicting information from different workers (which unfortunately happens a lot), ask them to email you the guidance or reference the specific policy manual section. Having it in writing protects you if there's confusion later. Also, for those months when you travel and earn nothing, definitely report that! Zero income months can actually boost your benefits temporarily, which helps balance out the lower benefit months when your income spikes. The system is confusing but once you get into a routine of tracking and reporting correctly, it becomes much more manageable. Hang in there!

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This is such a smart approach! I love the idea of creating a spreadsheet to track everything - that would definitely help me stay organized and have documentation if questions come up later. The tip about asking for written guidance is brilliant too, especially since everyone seems to get different answers from different workers. I never thought about reporting zero income months being beneficial, but that makes total sense! When I travel for work and have no income, I should definitely report that rather than just staying quiet about it. Thanks for the practical advice - it's exactly what I needed to hear to feel more confident about managing this whole process!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm also a freelancer dealing with variable income and have been so anxious about messing up the reporting requirements. One thing I wanted to add - I've found it really helpful to set up a simple monthly reminder in my phone to check my income against my IRT. I calculate my gross income for the month, subtract 40%, and then compare it to my IRT threshold. If it's over, I report it that same day rather than putting it off. I also keep a photo of my approval letter with my IRT amount saved in my phone so I don't have to dig through paperwork every time I need to check. @Mei Lin - it sounds like you're getting great advice here! The key thing that helped me was realizing that the system is designed to help people with fluctuating income, not trip them up (even though it sometimes feels that way). Once you get into a routine of tracking things monthly, it becomes much less stressful. The spreadsheet idea from @Daniela Rossi is genius - I'm definitely going to start doing that for better record keeping!

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The monthly reminder idea is brilliant! I've been so overwhelmed trying to keep track of everything mentally, but setting up a simple phone reminder to do the calculation each month would take so much stress out of this process. And keeping a photo of the approval letter with the IRT amount - why didn't I think of that?! I've been digging through my paperwork pile every time I need to check. These are exactly the kind of practical tips that make this whole system feel more manageable. It's really reassuring to hear from other freelancers who've figured out a system that works. I was starting to feel like I was the only one struggling with all these reporting requirements, but it sounds like we're all just trying to navigate the same confusing process. Thank you for sharing what's worked for you!

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As someone who works in benefits advocacy, I want to emphasize something that's been touched on but bears repeating: the CalFresh program has specific protections for people with irregular income like gig workers and freelancers. The 40% standard deduction for self-employment expenses exists specifically because they recognize that 1099 workers have business costs that W-2 employees don't. You can also choose to itemize actual expenses if they're higher than 40%, but you'd need to provide documentation. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet - if you're having trouble with inconsistent information from workers, you can request to speak with an eligibility supervisor or ask for a "fair hearing" if you disagree with any decisions. Every county also has a CalFresh outreach coordinator who can help clarify policies. For your specific situation with highly variable income, consider asking your worker about whether you qualify for "simplified reporting" - some counties have pilot programs that reduce reporting requirements for people with very unpredictable earnings. Documentation is your friend here. Keep records of everything: income received, expenses, reports made, and communications with the county. This protects you and helps resolve any discrepancies quickly. The system isn't perfect, but it is designed to provide a safety net for people in exactly your situation. Don't let the complexity discourage you from getting the assistance you're entitled to!

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This is incredibly valuable information, thank you! I had no idea about the "simplified reporting" option - that could be a game changer for someone like me with such unpredictable income swings. I'm definitely going to ask my worker about that when I call next. The point about requesting to speak with a supervisor is really important too. I've gotten so frustrated with the conflicting information from different workers, but I didn't realize I could specifically ask for a supervisor who might be more knowledgeable about self-employment rules. I'm also curious about the option to itemize actual expenses instead of taking the 40% deduction. Some months my business expenses are way higher than 40% (especially when I have to travel for work or buy equipment), so that might be worth exploring. Thanks for reminding us that this system is actually designed to help people in our situation, even when it feels overwhelming. It's easy to forget that when you're drowning in confusing paperwork and conflicting advice!

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I'm also a freelancer dealing with similar income fluctuations and wanted to share something that's helped me a lot - I started keeping a simple monthly log where I write down my gross income, calculate the 40% deduction, and note whether I need to report based on my IRT. One thing that really clicked for me from this thread is that the 40% deduction applies BEFORE comparing to your IRT threshold. I was getting so stressed thinking I had to report every time my bank account showed deposits over my IRT, but now I understand it's the net amount after the 40% deduction that matters. @Mei Lin - your original questions were spot on and I think everyone here has given you solid advice. The main takeaways I'm getting are: 1) Money already on your EBT card stays there regardless of income changes, 2) Calculate monthly gross income minus 40%, then compare to your IRT to determine if reporting is needed, and 3) Keep good records of everything. I'm also going to try that Claimyr service that @Dylan Cooper mentioned because I'm so tired of spending hours on hold just to get basic questions answered. Having a real person explain the rules specific to your situation makes such a difference! Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's so helpful to know other freelancers are navigating the same challenges and finding ways to make it work.

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This is such a helpful summary of everything we've covered! I'm also going to start keeping that monthly log - it sounds like having everything documented in one place would make this so much less stressful. The clarification about the 40% deduction applying BEFORE the IRT comparison was a huge lightbulb moment for me too. I've been panicking every time I saw larger deposits in my account, not realizing I needed to do the math first. I'm definitely going to check out that Claimyr service as well. After reading through all these responses, it's clear that getting consistent, accurate information from someone who actually understands self-employment rules is key. Too much conflicting advice out there! Thanks for pulling together the main takeaways - this whole thread has been incredibly educational and reassuring. It's nice to know I'm not the only one trying to figure out this system while juggling unpredictable freelance income!

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This thread has been incredibly informative! As someone who just started receiving CalFresh benefits as a freelance graphic designer, I was completely lost about the reporting requirements with my variable income. Reading through everyone's experiences really helps clarify things. I especially appreciate @Giovanni Mancini's breakdown of how the EBT balance works - I was worried they could somehow "claw back" money that was already loaded onto my card if my income spiked one month. The 40% deduction explanation is a game-changer too. I've been stressing every time I get a big project payment, not realizing I should calculate it as gross minus 40% BEFORE comparing to my IRT. I'm definitely going to implement some of the organizational tips mentioned here - the monthly tracking spreadsheet from @Daniela Rossi and the phone reminder system from @Adaline Wong sound perfect for staying on top of everything. One question I have - for those of you who've been doing this longer, about how often do you actually end up having to make mid-period reports? I'm trying to get a sense of whether this will be a monthly headache or more occasional based on real freelancer experiences. Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge - this community is so helpful for navigating these confusing systems!

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Welcome to the freelancer CalFresh club! Your question about reporting frequency is a great one. In my experience over the past year, I've had to make mid-period reports maybe 3-4 times out of 12 months. It really depends on how variable your income is and what your specific IRT threshold is. For context, my IRT is $2,100, and after the 40% deduction, I need to gross about $3,500 in a month before I hit the reporting requirement. Most months I'm under that, but occasionally I'll land a big project that pushes me over. The key thing I've learned is not to stress about it too much. Once you get into the routine of doing the monthly calculation (gross income minus 40%, compare to IRT), it becomes pretty automatic. And honestly, the months where you do have higher income and need to report are usually the months where you can better afford a temporary reduction in benefits anyway. @Daniela Rossi s'spreadsheet idea really is brilliant - I started one after reading her comment and it makes tracking everything so much easier. You ll'get the hang of it quickly!

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As someone who's been freelancing and on CalFresh for about 8 months, I just wanted to say this thread is GOLD! I wish I had found information this clear when I was starting out. The biggest thing that helped me was finally understanding that the 40% deduction applies BEFORE comparing to your IRT - not after. I spent my first few months in constant anxiety every time I got a decent-sized payment, thinking I was going over my limit when I actually wasn't even close. My practical advice for new freelancers on CalFresh: Get a small notebook or use your phone's notes app to jot down your monthly income as it comes in. At the end of each month, do the math: total income minus 40%, then compare to your IRT. If you're over, report within 10 days. If not, you're good until the next month. Also, don't be afraid to ask questions! I called my county office probably 6 times in the first two months just to make sure I understood everything correctly. Yes, you might get different answers from different workers sometimes, but eventually you'll piece together the right information. @Mei Lin - sounds like you're getting great guidance here! The learning curve is steep but once you get the system down, it becomes much more manageable. Hang in there!

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Thank you so much @Nina Chan! This thread has been absolutely incredible - I feel like I went from completely confused to actually understanding how this system works for freelancers like us. Your point about the 40% deduction applying BEFORE the IRT comparison was the key lightbulb moment for me too. I've been stressing myself out unnecessarily for months! I love your simple approach of tracking monthly income and doing the calculation at the end of each month. That sounds so much more manageable than trying to track every single payment as it comes in. I'm definitely going to start implementing all the organizational tips from this thread - the spreadsheet, the monthly reminders, keeping photos of my approval letter on my phone. You're all amazing for sharing these practical strategies! And @Rita Jacobs, thanks for sharing the real numbers about how often you actually have to report - knowing it's only 3-4 times out of 12 months makes this feel way less overwhelming. This community is seriously the best resource I've found for navigating CalFresh as a freelancer. Thank you everyone for taking the time to share your experiences and knowledge!

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This thread has been such a lifesaver! As a freelance web developer who's been on CalFresh for about 4 months, I was making this way more complicated than it needed to be. I've been tracking every single deposit and panicking whenever my bank balance looked high, not realizing that I should be doing the calculation monthly with the 40% deduction first. Reading through everyone's experiences here finally made it click - it's about NET income after the business expense deduction, not gross deposits. The organizational tips are fantastic too. I'm definitely setting up that monthly phone reminder and creating a simple tracking spreadsheet. Having everything documented will be huge for peace of mind. One thing I'll add for other freelancers - I've found it helpful to take screenshots of my online banking summary at the end of each month before doing the IRT calculation. That way I have a clear record of what income I included in my calculation if questions come up later. @Mei Lin your original questions were exactly what I needed to see answered! This community is incredible for getting real-world advice from people who actually understand the freelancer struggle with CalFresh reporting.

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@Oliver Brown yes! This thread has been absolutely amazing - I feel like I finally understand the system after months of confusion. Your tip about taking screenshots of monthly banking summaries is brilliant - I never thought about documenting the specific income I used for each calculation, but that could be really helpful if there are ever questions later. It s'so reassuring to see that we ve'all been making this more complicated than it needs to be! The key insight about calculating net income gross (minus 40% BEFORE) comparing to the IRT has been a game-changer for so many of us here. I m'also really excited to implement all the organizational strategies everyone has shared - the spreadsheet tracking, monthly phone reminders, keeping approval letter photos handy. It feels like having a proper system in place will make this so much less stressful going forward. Thank you to everyone who contributed to this thread - as a newcomer to both freelancing and CalFresh, having access to this kind of real-world experience and practical advice is invaluable. I feel so much more confident about managing my reporting requirements now!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who just started freelancing and got approved for CalFresh last month, I was completely overwhelmed by all the reporting requirements. Reading through everyone's experiences has been like getting a masterclass in how to actually navigate this system as a gig worker. The biggest revelation for me was understanding that the 40% business expense deduction happens BEFORE you compare to your IRT threshold. I've been calculating it backwards this whole time and stressing myself out unnecessarily! I'm definitely going to implement the organizational strategies everyone has shared - especially the monthly reminder to calculate income and the spreadsheet tracking system. Having everything documented seems crucial for avoiding headaches down the road. One question for the experienced folks here: when you do your monthly IRT calculation, do you include pending payments that haven't cleared yet, or only count income that's actually hit your account by month-end? I do a lot of work where payment timing can be unpredictable. Thanks to everyone for sharing such practical, real-world advice. This community is an amazing resource for those of us trying to figure out the intersection of freelance work and benefits!

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Great question about pending payments! From what I've learned through experience and talking to my caseworker, you should only count income that has actually been received/deposited by the end of the month. Pending payments or invoices that haven't been paid yet don't count toward that month's income calculation. This actually works in your favor as a freelancer since payment timing is so unpredictable - you're not penalized for invoices you've sent but haven't been paid for yet. The income gets counted in whatever month you actually receive it. I keep a simple note in my phone tracking "invoiced but not paid" amounts so I can anticipate which future months might push me over my IRT when those payments come through. It helps me plan ahead without having to stress about money I haven't actually received yet. This thread has been such a goldmine of practical advice! It's so reassuring to connect with other freelancers navigating the same challenges. The CalFresh system definitely has a learning curve but once you understand the key concepts (like that 40% deduction timing), it becomes much more manageable.

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