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Isaiah Sanders

10-year-old CalFresh overpayment claim - Is there really no statute of limitations?

Just got hit with a $2,450 overpayment notice for CalFresh benefits from 2014!!! I'm completely shocked since this is from TEN YEARS ago. When I called the county office, the worker told me 'there's no statute of limitations on federally funded programs' and I need to pay it back or set up a repayment plan. But when I searched online, several legal sites say California has a 3-year statute of limitations for benefit overpayments. I'm so confused and stressed about this. The notice says they'll garnish my tax refunds if I don't respond within 30 days. Has anyone successfully fought an ancient overpayment claim like this? What documentation should I request? I don't even remember the details from 2014 - I've moved THREE times since then!

Xan Dae

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There's a difference between the state and federal statute of limitations for CalFresh overpayments. The 3-year limit you found online might be referring to state-funded portions, but CalFresh is primarily federally funded, which has different rules. In my experience working with clients, they can absolutely pursue collections on federal benefit overpayments beyond 3 years. However, you should request a detailed breakdown of how they calculated the overpayment and verification of when they first attempted to notify you. If they can't prove they tried to collect before now, you might have some options.

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Thanks for explaining that. Do you know if I can request a hearing even though it's so old? They're saying I didn't report income correctly, but I honestly don't remember the details from that far back, and I don't have any paperwork from then.

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omg this SAME THING happened to my cousin last month but it was from 2016!!! she ended up just setting up a payment plan for like $25 a month cuz she didnt wanna deal with fighting it. so messed up they can come after u after all this time 😡

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Thais Soares

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They did this to me too but it was only from 2021. I think they're doing some kind of mass recovery program right now to get money back. It's ridiculous.

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Nalani Liu

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YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY FIGHT THIS!! The county CANNOT just bill you after 10 years without proof they tried to collect before. Request ALL their documentation immediately. Ask specifically for: 1. Original overpayment notice (they had to send one when they discovered it) 2. Proof of their collection attempts over the years 3. Detailed breakdown of the alleged overpayment 4. Administrative hearing request form I had a $1,900 overpayment from 2018 that I got dismissed because they couldn't prove they sent me the original notice. The system is BROKEN but you have rights!!

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Thank you! This is really helpful. Did you have to get a lawyer, or were you able to do this yourself? I'm definitely going to request all of this documentation.

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Axel Bourke

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theres definately a statute of limitation on this stuff. my brother in law works for the county and he says they cant go back more than 3 years for most stuff but sometimes theres exceptions. you should ask for a fair hearing, thats your right. good luck!

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Xan Dae

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Just to clarify - there are different rules for different benefit types. CalFresh (being federally funded) has different limitations than some state programs. The county worker was technically correct that federal benefit overpayments can be collected beyond the 3-year mark. However, there ARE procedural requirements they must follow, which is why requesting documentation is so important.

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Aidan Percy

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I've helped many clients with CalFresh overpayment claims. Here's what you need to know: 1. For FEDERAL programs like CalFresh, there is indeed no statute of limitations on collection, according to federal regulations at 7 CFR 273.18 2. However, they must have evidence of the overpayment calculation, proof they notified you at your address of record at the time, and documentation of collection attempts 3. You have the right to request a fair hearing within 90 days of receiving this new notice 4. You can request a payment plan if the claim is valid - they must accept reasonable offers based on your current financial situation Your best approach is to request a full Administrative Hearing and demand complete documentation. If they can't produce records showing they properly notified you at the time, you may have grounds for dismissal under procedural requirements.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I just submitted a request for all their documentation. I'm almost certain they never contacted me about this before - I've always kept my address updated with all government agencies. Would it help to get a letter from USPS confirming my forwarding addresses over the years?

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Thais Soares

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I had this happen but with unemployment not calfresh. Try calling ur county worker direct but GOOD LUCK actually reaching a person lol I tried for weeks!!!

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wait i just remembered something!!! my friend who works at legal aid told me that if u can prove "administrative error" the debt can be waived. like if they made the mistake not u? worth asking about!!

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Aidan Percy

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That's correct! There are two types of CalFresh overpayments: 1. Inadvertent Household Error (IHE) - when the household made an honest mistake 2. Administrative Error (AE) - when the county made the error For Administrative Errors, you aren't responsible, but you'll need to prove it was their mistake. If the overpayment was due to the household not reporting information correctly, that would fall under IHE and would still be collectible. This is why seeing their documentation is so important - to determine which type of overpayment they're claiming.

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Nalani Liu

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I'm still FURIOUS they can come after people after TEN YEARS!!! What about the interest you could have earned on that money if you'd known about this debt?? The system is COMPLETELY biased against recipients. FIGHT THIS ALL THE WAY!!! And report back what happens please!!

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You're right - it's totally unfair. I've requested a hearing and all documentation. I'll definitely update once I know more. Thank you all for the advice and support. It helps knowing I'm not alone in this!

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Chloe Taylor

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I'm going through something similar right now with a 2015 overpayment claim that just showed up last month. After reading through all these responses, I wanted to add that you should also request a "waiver of collection" if you're experiencing financial hardship. Even if the overpayment is valid, they're supposed to consider your current ability to pay. I found out about this from a paralegal at our local legal aid office - apparently it's in the federal regulations but they don't advertise it. Also, document EVERYTHING from this point forward - every phone call, every letter, every interaction. Good luck fighting this!

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Ella Harper

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This is really valuable information about the waiver of collection option! I had no idea that was even possible. Do you know what kind of documentation they typically want to prove financial hardship? I'm definitely going to ask about this when I have my hearing. It's so frustrating that these options aren't clearly explained in the notices they send out - it feels like they're hoping people will just pay without knowing their rights.

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Kendrick Webb

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@Ella Harper For the financial hardship waiver, they typically want recent pay stubs, bank statements, rent/mortgage receipts, utility bills, and any medical expenses. Basically anything that shows your monthly income vs expenses. The legal aid paralegal told me they have to consider things like whether paying the debt would prevent you from meeting basic needs like housing and food. It s'worth noting that even if they approve a waiver, it might only be partial - but every little bit helps! @Chloe Taylor thanks for mentioning this option, I had no idea it existed either.

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Ella Lewis

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I'm dealing with a similar situation - got an overpayment notice from 2017 just last week! After reading through everyone's advice here, I immediately called and requested all their documentation. Turns out they had my old address from 6 years ago and claimed they'd been "sending notices" there even though I updated my address with them multiple times. The worker I spoke with seemed surprised when I knew to ask for proof of their collection attempts and administrative hearing forms. I think a lot of people just pay these without realizing they have rights. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - it's helping me feel more confident about fighting this!

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Sean Flanagan

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That's exactly what happened to me with the address issue! They had my address from 2014 even though I'd moved three times and updated my info with other county services. It's like they deliberately use old addresses so they can claim they "attempted" to notify people. I'm so glad you knew to ask for proof right away - I wish I had found this thread before I called them the first time. Keep us posted on how your hearing goes! It's really encouraging to see so many people fighting back against these ridiculous old claims instead of just accepting them.

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Emma Wilson

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I'm a new member here and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening! I had no idea that CalFresh overpayments could be pursued after so many years. Reading everyone's experiences is both helpful and honestly pretty terrifying - it makes me want to go back and double-check all my old paperwork just in case. @Isaiah Sanders, I really hope your hearing goes well! It sounds like you've gotten some excellent advice here about requesting documentation and proving they didn't properly notify you. The fact that so many people are dealing with these ancient claims makes me wonder if there's some kind of systematic issue with how they're handling these cases. Please keep us updated on what happens - your experience could help other people who find themselves in similar situations!

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Welcome to the community! You're absolutely right to be concerned - this does seem like a systematic issue. I'm new here too and was shocked to learn about these old overpayment claims popping up everywhere. It's really helpful that people are sharing their experiences because otherwise you'd never know these options exist. @Isaiah Sanders I m'also hoping your case goes well - you ve'gotten such good advice from everyone here. @Emma Wilson you make a good point about checking old paperwork, though honestly after 10+ years most of us probably don t have'records from that far back anyway. That s part'of what makes these cases so unfair - they have all the records and we re left'scrambling to defend ourselves from something we barely remember!

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Elijah Knight

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This thread has been so helpful! I'm new to the community and unfortunately dealing with a similar situation - just received an overpayment notice for CalFresh benefits from 2016 for $1,800. I'm a single mom working two part-time jobs and barely making ends meet as it is. The idea of having to pay back money from 8 years ago is overwhelming, especially when I don't even remember what happened back then. Reading everyone's advice about requesting documentation and asking for hearings gives me hope that I can fight this. I'm particularly interested in what @Chloe Taylor mentioned about the waiver of collection for financial hardship - that might be exactly what I need. Does anyone know if having young children is considered when they evaluate financial hardship? I have a 6-year-old and childcare costs eat up most of my income. Thank you all for sharing your experiences - it's comforting to know I'm not alone in this situation!

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Welcome to the community! I'm new here too and your situation sounds incredibly stressful - being a single parent and getting hit with an unexpected bill from 8 years ago must be overwhelming. From what I've learned reading through this thread, having dependent children is definitely something they should consider for financial hardship evaluations. Your childcare costs and the fact that you're supporting a 6-year-old on two part-time jobs sounds like exactly the kind of situation where a hardship waiver might apply. I'd definitely recommend following the advice others have given about requesting all their documentation first - you might find they don't have proper records of trying to collect from you over the years, which could help your case. Don't let them pressure you into just accepting a payment plan without exploring all your options first! Keep us posted on how things go - your experience will help other single parents who might face similar situations.

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I'm new to this community but sadly not new to dealing with government benefit issues. Reading through everyone's experiences here is both validating and infuriating - it's clear that these old overpayment claims are happening to people all across California right now. What strikes me most is how many people mentioned they never received proper notification over the years, yet the county offices act like this is standard procedure. @Isaiah Sanders, your situation is particularly egregious - 10 years is just unconscionable, especially when you've moved multiple times and kept your address updated with other agencies. I wanted to add one thing I learned from my own experience with bureaucratic nightmares: always send any requests for documentation or appeals via certified mail with return receipt requested. That way you have proof of when you submitted everything and they can't claim they "never received" your paperwork. Also, if anyone is feeling overwhelmed by the legal aspects, many areas have legal aid societies that offer free consultations for low-income individuals dealing with government benefit issues. Don't let them intimidate you into just paying - you all have rights and it sounds like many of these cases have serious procedural problems that could work in your favor!

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Dmitry Petrov

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Thank you for this excellent advice about certified mail - that's such an important detail that I wouldn't have thought of! I'm also new here and dealing with my first overpayment situation, so learning from everyone's experiences has been invaluable. The point about legal aid societies is really helpful too. I just looked up my local office and they do have a benefits advocacy program that I had no idea existed. It's frustrating that we have to become experts in all these procedures just to defend ourselves from claims that should have been handled years ago, but at least we have communities like this to share information and support each other through the process!

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Javier Morales

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I'm new to this community but unfortunately not new to dealing with government benefit bureaucracy. Reading through everyone's experiences here is both eye-opening and deeply concerning - it seems like there's definitely a pattern of these old CalFresh overpayment claims suddenly appearing after years of silence. What really bothers me is how the system seems designed to overwhelm people into just paying without understanding their rights. @Isaiah Sanders, I'm really rooting for you in fighting this 10-year-old claim - it's absolutely ridiculous that they can come after you after so long, especially when you've been responsible about keeping your address updated with other agencies. I wanted to add something that might help everyone dealing with these situations: if you're having trouble getting through to county workers by phone, try showing up in person at your local office first thing in the morning. Sometimes face-to-face interactions get better results than endless phone tag. Also, bring a notebook and write down the name of every person you speak with, along with dates and what was discussed. Having that paper trail can be incredibly valuable if you need to escalate your case later. This community is such a valuable resource - thank you all for sharing your knowledge and experiences!

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Isabella Santos

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Welcome to the community! Your advice about showing up in person and keeping detailed notes is spot-on - I wish I had thought of that when I first started dealing with my overpayment issue. The bureaucracy really does seem designed to wear people down until they just give up and pay. It's encouraging to see so many people here sharing practical strategies for navigating these situations. @Isaiah Sanders I m'also following your case closely - your experience is helping all of us understand what to expect and how to prepare. The fact that so many people are dealing with these ancient claims right now definitely suggests there s'some kind of coordinated collection effort happening. Having this community to share information and support each other through these stressful situations makes such a difference!

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