CalFresh overpayment notice for $3,200 - do I have to repay when household member wasn't living with me?
Just got the worst letter in the mail... CalFresh is saying I owe $3,200 for 'overpayment' from January-March this year because I didn't report my children's father on my case. But here's the thing - HE DOESN'T EVEN LIVE WITH US! We co-parent but have separate households. The county worker did some investigation and is claiming he should have been on my case because he uses my address for some mail (only because his apartment complex has package theft issues). Now they're demanding I pay back 3 months of benefits. I'm freaking out because I'm a single mom with 3 kids and there's no way I can pay this. Has anyone successfully fought an overpayment claim? Do I need to file an appeal? The weird part is my monthly benefit only dropped from $1,250 to $350 after adding his income during the investigation, but they're asking for the FULL amount back for those months.
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Elijah Jackson
OMG this exact thing happened to me last year!!! The county decided my ex was part of my household because he picks up our kids 3 days a week and sometimes stays for dinner. They hit me with a $2,800 overpayment. I filed an appeal right away - you only have 90 days from the notice date so don't wait!
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Isabella Martin
•Did the appeal work for you? I'm so stressed about this. I definitely need to appeal but I'm worried they won't believe me.
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Sophia Miller
You should definitely appeal this decision. CalFresh regulations are clear that household composition is based on who purchases and prepares food together regularly. If the children's father maintains his own separate residence and doesn't regularly purchase and prepare meals with you, he shouldn't be considered part of your CalFresh household regardless of using your address for some mail. When you file your appeal, gather evidence like his lease agreement, utility bills at his address, or any court documents showing separate residences. Also, request all documents the county used to make their determination through a record request.
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Mason Davis
•this is good advice except the county never believes anyone. my friend had her ex's mail coming to her house for the kids school stuff and they counted him in her house even tho he lived with his new gf. she had to pay back like $1000 even after appeal. the system is rigged
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Mia Rodriguez
I work with benefit appeals, and there's an important distinction here. You need to appeal the household composition determination first, which is separate from the overpayment. If you can prove he doesn't live with you, the overpayment becomes invalid. Also, you should know about the Administrative Disqualification Hearing process vs. regular appeals. Request a state hearing within 90 days and specifically challenge both the household composition determination AND the overpayment amount. Bring documentation showing separate residences (his lease, bills, driver's license, tax filing status as separate households, etc).
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Isabella Martin
•Thank you so much for this info! I hadn't thought about challenging both separately. His driver's license has his own address, and we file taxes separately. I do have a weird question though - if he really doesn't live with us, why did my benefit amount go down when they added him? Shouldn't it have stayed the same?
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Jacob Lewis
Wait I'm confused about something. If they're counting your kids' dad as part of your household, aren't they also counting his income? That would explain why your benefit went from $1250 to $350. So they're basically saying you had unreported income in the household those 3 months. The overpayment makes sense from their perspective even if it's wrong about him living with you.
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Sophia Miller
•This is correct. The county is counting the father as part of the household AND counting his income, which is why the benefit decreased. When appealing, you need to focus on proving separate households (separate addresses, separate food purchase/preparation). If successful, his income would no longer count toward the household, and the overpayment would be recalculated or eliminated.
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Amelia Martinez
your gonna need to request a fair hearing right away!!! i had almost the same thing happen with my roommate, they said we were sharing food and counted his income (we NEVER shared food!!!) and gave me a $1,800 overpayment. the whole system is designed to screw over people who need help ughhhh
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Isabella Martin
•Did you win your hearing? It seems like they just assume people are lying. I'm worried they won't believe me even with proof.
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Ethan Clark
I've been dealing with CalFresh for years, and I've fought overpayment claims successfully twice. Here's what works: 1) Call your county office IMMEDIATELY and request a fair hearing AND ask to speak with a supervisor about the claim before the hearing. 2) Gather all evidence proving separate residences (leases, bills, mail, etc). 3) Get statements from neighbors or family confirming separate households if possible. 4) Ask for a payment plan or hardship reduction even while appealing - this shows good faith. 5) Request all evidence they used to make the determination. I've found that getting through to the right person at the county office can be nearly impossible though - I spent 3 weeks calling daily to reach a supervisor. I recently found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me skip the phone queues and actually get through to someone. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/eZ19FHRETv8?si=_CXnXqNXbLl26WB8. Totally worth it when you're facing a $3,200 overpayment claim.
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Isabella Martin
•Thank you so much for the detailed advice! I've been calling for two days and can't get through - just automated messages. I'll check out that service because I really need to talk to someone ASAP. Did you end up having to pay anything back after your appeal?
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Elijah Jackson
Make sure you check the overpayment notice carefully for the 'reason code' - they should have a specific regulation they're citing. My notice had something about 'failure to report household composition change' with a specific regulation number. When I researched that regulation, I found the exact definition of a household member that I could use in my appeal. Also, ask for a 'conditional withdrawal' of the claim while you gather evidence - sometimes they'll pause collection.
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Mia Rodriguez
•This is excellent advice. The specific regulation for household composition in CalFresh is found in MPP Section 63-402. A household is defined as individuals who purchase and prepare food together. The conditional withdrawal request (also called a 'claim in suspense') can indeed pause collection activities during the appeal process.
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Amelia Martinez
u know what really gets me is they say he shud be on ur case cause he gets mail at ur house??? since when does mail = living together lol. i have mail going to my moms house still but i dont live with her!!! this is just them trying to take money back any way they can!!!
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Ethan Clark
•You're right that mail delivery alone doesn't prove residency. However, the county does look at multiple factors when determining household composition. The regulations specifically look at who purchases and prepares food together as the primary determination of a CalFresh household. Getting mail at an address is just one piece of evidence they might consider, but it's definitely not sufficient on its own to prove someone lives there.
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Isabella Martin
Update: I managed to speak with someone at the county office this morning! I explained the situation about separate households and they said I need to submit proof like his lease agreement, utility bills, and a written statement about our living arrangements. They also said I should formally request a state hearing using the form on the back of my notice. I'm gathering all the documents now and will submit everything by tomorrow. The worker also mentioned something about 'administrative error' vs 'inadvertent household error' overpayments having different repayment requirements? Does anyone know what that means?
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Mia Rodriguez
•This is good progress! Regarding your question: Administrative errors are mistakes made by the county and generally don't require repayment (or have more flexible terms). Inadvertent household errors are unintentional mistakes by households and require repayment but without penalties. Intentional Program Violations (IPVs) are deliberate misrepresentations and have the strictest repayment terms plus possible disqualification. Based on your description, you should argue this is either an administrative error (if the county had evidence of separate residences but processed incorrectly) or at most an inadvertent household error (if you didn't understand the reporting requirements). Definitely avoid any classification as an IPV.
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Mason Davis
just fyi you should look into the 'compromised claims' option if your appeal doesn't work. sometimes they'll settle for a lower amount especially if u can prove financial hardship. my sister had a $5k overpayment and they reduced it to like $2k because she had medical bills and stuff.
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Sophia Miller
•This is correct advice. CalFresh overpayment claims can be compromised (reduced) based on financial hardship. You can request this after the overpayment amount is finalized, even if your appeal of the household composition is unsuccessful. Generally, you would need to provide documentation of your financial situation showing repayment would cause significant hardship.
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Sebastián Stevens
I'm dealing with something similar right now! My ex gets mail at my place for our daughter's school stuff and now they're saying he's part of my household even though he lives 20 minutes away with his girlfriend. The frustrating part is I reported him as the father on my application but clearly stated he doesn't live with us. It feels like they're just looking for reasons to claw back benefits. I'm definitely going to file an appeal after reading all this advice. Has anyone had success showing that co-parenting arrangements don't equal living together? I have our custody agreement that shows we have separate addresses.
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Hannah Flores
•Your custody agreement should be really strong evidence! That's exactly the kind of documentation that proves separate households. The fact that you already reported him as the father but specified he doesn't live with you shows you were being transparent from the start. Co-parenting definitely doesn't equal cohabitation - courts wouldn't issue custody agreements with separate addresses if parents lived together! Make sure to include any other evidence of his separate residence like his lease with his girlfriend, and maybe even get a statement from the school confirming they know he has a different address but uses yours for convenience. The county really shouldn't be penalizing people for responsible co-parenting arrangements.
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Noah huntAce420
•Yes! I had a very similar situation and the custody agreement was key to winning my appeal. I also included documentation showing his separate utility bills and bank statements with his actual address. The hearing officer specifically asked about our parenting plan and when I showed the court-ordered custody schedule with different pickup/dropoff addresses, it was clear we maintained separate households. One tip - if you have any text messages or emails between you two that reference "your place" and "my place" or discuss meeting up (rather than him just being there), those can help show you're coordinating between two separate homes. The school mail thing is super common for divorced parents and shouldn't count against you at all.
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