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Ethan Clark

UCC release complications with mosaic solar financing - debtor name issues

Having a nightmare trying to get our UCC filing properly released after paying off our solar panel financing through Mosaic. The original UCC-1 was filed back in 2022 when we got the system installed, but now that we've paid everything off, the release process is completely stuck. The financing company says they filed the UCC-3 termination statement three weeks ago, but when I search the state database, nothing shows up. Our title company is refusing to clear this for our refinance until they see the official termination recorded. The debtor name on the original filing shows 'John & Sarah Mitchell' but our loan payoff documents all reference 'John Mitchell and Sarah Mitchell' - wondering if this slight difference is causing the release to get rejected? Has anyone dealt with similar solar financing UCC release delays? The solar company isn't being helpful and Mosaic's customer service keeps transferring me around. Really need this cleared up ASAP since our refi rate lock expires next week.

AstroAce

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Ugh, solar UCC releases are the worst! Same thing happened to my neighbor last year with their SunPower financing. The name variation you mentioned is definitely the culprit - filing systems are super picky about exact debtor name matches. Even something as small as '&' vs 'and' can cause a UCC-3 termination to get rejected.

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This is exactly right. I've seen UCC-3 terminations bounce back for punctuation differences, middle initial inconsistencies, you name it. The secured party has to file the termination using the EXACT debtor name from the original UCC-1.

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Ethan Clark

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That's what I was afraid of. So frustrating that such a minor detail can hold up the whole process. Do you know if there's a way to expedite getting this corrected?

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Carmen Vega

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You need to contact Mosaic directly and tell them the UCC-3 termination was likely rejected due to the debtor name discrepancy. They'll need to refile it with the exact name format from the original UCC-1 filing. Most solar financing companies have dealt with this before, so they should know the drill. Get a case number and ask for email confirmation when they refile.

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Good advice. Also request a copy of the rejection notice from the Secretary of State - that'll give you the specific reason the termination was bounced back.

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Ethan Clark

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I'll call them first thing Monday morning. Should I also contact the SOS office directly to check on the filing status?

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Carmen Vega

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Yes, definitely call the SOS filing division. They can tell you if a termination was submitted and rejected. Most states have a phone line for UCC inquiries.

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Zoe Stavros

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Before you spend more time going back and forth with Mosaic, you might want to try uploading your documents to Certana.ai's verification tool. I used it last month when I had similar document consistency issues with a equipment financing UCC release. You just upload the original UCC-1 and the termination paperwork, and it instantly flags any name mismatches or filing number discrepancies. Saved me weeks of back-and-forth with the lender.

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Jamal Harris

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Never heard of that service but sounds useful. How accurate is it for catching these kinds of filing errors?

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Zoe Stavros

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Pretty spot-on in my experience. It caught three different name format issues I wouldn't have noticed until the filings got rejected. Much faster than manually comparing documents.

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GalaxyGlider

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Solar UCC releases are notorious for this stuff. The solar industry has only been doing serious UCC filings for like 10 years, so a lot of the companies still mess up the paperwork. I work in commercial lending and we see botched solar UCCs all the time - wrong collateral descriptions, incorrect debtor names, missing fixture filing designations when the panels are attached to real estate.

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Ethan Clark

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That's reassuring to know it's not just us. The whole solar financing process felt rushed when we signed, so I'm not surprised there were filing errors.

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Mei Wong

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The fixture filing thing is huge with solar. If the panels are permanently attached to the roof, it should be filed as a fixture filing. Otherwise you can have title issues later.

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GalaxyGlider

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Exactly. A lot of solar companies skip the fixture filing designation entirely, which causes problems down the road when property changes hands.

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Liam Sullivan

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This is why I always pull my own UCC search reports after any financing gets paid off. Can't trust the lenders to handle terminations properly. Check your state's SOS website - most have online UCC search portals where you can verify if the termination actually got filed and accepted.

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Amara Okafor

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Smart approach. Which states have the best online UCC search systems?

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Liam Sullivan

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Delaware and Nevada have really good interfaces. Some states still make you call or submit written requests, which is ridiculous in 2025.

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Had almost the exact same issue with Tesla solar financing last year. Tesla's third-party financing partner kept filing UCC-3 terminations with the wrong entity name. Took four separate attempts before they got it right. The trick was getting a copy of the original UCC-1 directly from the state filing office and making sure the termination matched exactly.

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Ethan Clark

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Four attempts?! That's insane. How long did the whole process take?

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Almost three months total. Each rejected filing had to be researched, corrected, and refiled. It was a nightmare, especially since we were trying to sell the house.

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This is exactly why I used that Certana document checker tool someone mentioned earlier. Would have caught all those name mismatches upfront instead of playing filing roulette.

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StarStrider

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The ampersand vs 'and' issue is super common in UCC filings. Filing systems treat them as completely different characters. I always recommend getting a certified copy of the original UCC-1 from the Secretary of State before requesting any amendments or terminations. That way you have the exact formatting used in the official filing.

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How much does a certified copy usually cost? Is it worth the extra expense?

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StarStrider

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Usually $10-25 depending on the state. Definitely worth it if you're dealing with time-sensitive transactions like refinancing.

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Sofia Torres

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Check if your state requires fixture filings for solar installations. Some states treat permanently attached solar panels as fixtures, which means the UCC-1 should have been filed as a fixture filing. If it wasn't, the termination process might be more complicated than a standard UCC-3.

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Ethan Clark

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How would I know if it was filed as a fixture filing? The original paperwork is pretty confusing.

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Sofia Torres

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Look at the UCC-1 form - there should be a checkbox marked for 'fixture filing' if it applies. Also check if it was filed with the county recorder in addition to the Secretary of State.

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This is getting complicated. Maybe worth having a UCC attorney review the original filing to make sure everything was done correctly from the start.

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Ava Martinez

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Whatever you do, don't let this drag on. UCC filing errors can really mess up property transactions. I'd suggest calling Mosaic's legal department directly instead of customer service. Legal departments usually understand UCC requirements better and can expedite corrections.

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Ethan Clark

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Good point about contacting legal. Do you have any tips for getting through to the right department?

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Ava Martinez

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Ask customer service to transfer you to 'UCC compliance' or 'secured transactions department.' Those are the magic words that usually get you to someone who knows what they're doing.

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Miguel Ramos

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Just went through this exact situation with Sunrun financing. The issue was definitely the debtor name formatting. Once we got them to refile the UCC-3 with the correct name format, it cleared within 48 hours. Make sure you get email confirmation that they've refiled and ask for the new filing number so you can track it yourself.

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Ethan Clark

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This gives me hope! Did you have to provide any additional documentation to get them to refile?

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Miguel Ramos

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Just had to send them a copy of the original UCC-1 showing the exact debtor name format. They were pretty cooperative once they understood the issue.

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QuantumQuasar

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That Certana tool someone mentioned earlier would probably spot this kind of mismatch immediately. Might be worth checking before you waste more time with phone calls.

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Malik Jenkins

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I'm dealing with a similar issue right now with my Tesla solar loan through a different lender. The frustrating part is that these solar companies often use third-party financing partners who aren't familiar with proper UCC filing procedures. What I learned is that you should also check if your original UCC-1 has any amendments filed against it - sometimes there are UCC-5 correction statements that change the debtor information, and the termination needs to reference the most recent version. Also, since you mentioned your refi rate lock expires next week, you might want to ask your title company if they'd accept a letter of commitment from Mosaic stating they will correct and refile the UCC-3 within a specific timeframe. Some title companies will work with you on tight deadlines if you can show good faith efforts to resolve the issue.

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Emma Wilson

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Great advice about checking for UCC-5 amendments! I hadn't thought about that possibility. The letter of commitment idea is brilliant too - definitely worth asking the title company if they'd accept that as a temporary solution while the filing gets corrected. Time is really tight with the rate lock expiring, so any flexibility from the title company would be a lifesaver.

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Zoe Stavros

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I just went through this exact nightmare with my SunPower financing last month! The name discrepancy is absolutely what's causing your UCC-3 termination to bounce back - I had the same issue where the original filing showed "Robert J. Thompson" but the payoff docs had "Robert Thompson" without the middle initial. What finally worked for me was getting a certified copy of the original UCC-1 from the Secretary of State office (cost $15 in my state) and then emailing that directly to the financing company's UCC compliance department along with a written request to refile using the EXACT debtor name format. Also, ask them to provide you with the rejection notice from the state - it'll confirm the specific reason for the bounce-back. Since your rate lock expires next week, I'd also suggest calling your title company to see if they'll accept a commitment letter from Mosaic guaranteeing the corrected filing within 72 hours. Some underwriters will work with you on time-sensitive deals if you can show documented progress toward resolution.

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