UCC release after vivint solar contract buyout - termination filing needed?
My company just acquired a portfolio of solar installations that were originally financed through Vivint Solar with UCC-1 filings on the equipment. We've paid off all the underlying debt and now need to clear these UCC liens from the properties. I've got about 200 properties across multiple states and I'm seeing inconsistent information about whether we need UCC-3 termination statements or if Vivint should have already filed them. Some properties show active UCC-1 filings from 2019-2021 that should have been released when we paid off the loans last year. The equipment is now owned free and clear but these filings are causing issues with property transfers. Has anyone dealt with bulk UCC releases for solar equipment financing? I'm particularly confused about whether the original secured party (Vivint) needs to file the terminations or if we can file as the current owner of the collateral.
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Keisha Jackson
You definitely need UCC-3 termination statements filed by the original secured party (Vivint) or whoever they assigned the security interest to. The UCC-1 filings won't automatically disappear just because the debt was paid. Check your payoff documentation - there should have been language about UCC release obligations. If Vivint hasn't filed the terminations, you'll need to contact them with proof of payoff and demand they file UCC-3 forms in each state where the original filings were made.
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Paolo Romano
•This is exactly right. I went through something similar with equipment financing last year. The secured party has to file the termination - you can't do it yourself unless you have a proper authorization from them.
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Amina Diop
•Solar companies are notorious for being slow with UCC releases. We had to threaten legal action to get SunPower to file terminations on 50+ properties. Document everything and set firm deadlines.
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Oliver Schmidt
I actually just went through this exact situation with a different solar company. What saved me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - I uploaded all the payoff letters and UCC-1 filings to cross-check which terminations were actually needed. The system instantly flagged discrepancies between the original collateral descriptions and what we actually owned. Turned out some of the UCC-1s had been amended and we were missing those filings in our records. Really streamlined the whole process instead of manually comparing 200+ documents.
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Natasha Volkov
•How did that work exactly? We're dealing with similar documentation chaos and manually checking everything is taking forever.
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Oliver Schmidt
•You just upload the PDFs and it automatically checks for name mismatches, filing numbers, and document consistency. Found several cases where the debtor names on payoff letters didn't exactly match the UCC-1 debtor names, which would have caused termination rejections.
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Javier Torres
•That sounds too good to be true but if it actually works for bulk document checking it would save us weeks of work. Our paralegal has been going cross-eyed comparing filing numbers.
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Emma Wilson
You need to be careful about the continuation vs termination issue. Some of those 2019 filings might have been continued in 2024 and you won't see the continuation if you're only looking at the original UCC-1. Run a fresh UCC search on each property to see current status before demanding terminations. Also check if Vivint assigned the security interests to another party - the assignee would be responsible for filing terminations, not Vivint.
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QuantumLeap
•Good point about assignments. We discovered that our solar company had sold the security interests to a third-party financing company and we had to track them down for the releases.
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Malik Johnson
•How do you find out about assignments? The original UCC-1 just shows Vivint as secured party.
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Emma Wilson
•Look for UCC-3 assignment filings or check with the Secretary of State's office. Sometimes they're filed as amendments to the original UCC-1.
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Isabella Santos
This is giving me anxiety because we're in the middle of a similar acquisition. What happens if the solar company refuses to file terminations or claims they already did when they clearly didn't? Our title company is refusing to close until all UCC liens are cleared.
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Ravi Sharma
•You can file a UCC-3 termination yourself if you have proper authorization or if the secured party is unresponsive. Check your state's specific requirements - some allow self-help terminations with proof of satisfaction.
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Freya Larsen
•Be careful with self-help terminations. If you file incorrectly, you could face penalties. Better to get proper authorization or go through legal channels.
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Isabella Santos
•Our lawyer says we need written authorization from the secured party. This is turning into a nightmare.
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Omar Hassan
The real problem is that solar companies often don't have good internal processes for UCC releases. I've dealt with SunRun, Tesla Solar, and Vivint - they're all terrible at this stuff. You basically have to treat it like a collections effort. Send demand letters, escalate to executives, threaten legal action. Document every communication because you might need it for wrongful lien claims later.
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Chloe Taylor
•So frustrating! Why can't they just build UCC termination into their payoff process automatically?
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ShadowHunter
•Because most solar companies don't understand secured transactions law and their back-office operations are set up for sales, not loan servicing.
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Diego Ramirez
Check your closing documents from the original acquisition. Sometimes the purchase agreement includes representations about UCC releases and you might have recourse against the seller if they didn't deliver clear title. We had a similar issue and ended up getting the seller to handle all the UCC terminations as part of their title cure obligations.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•That's a great point. Our acquisition attorney always includes UCC release requirements in the purchase agreement now after getting burned on a similar deal.
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StarGazer101
•Unfortunately our deal closed before we discovered the extent of the UCC filing issues. We thought most of the liens had been released but apparently not.
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Sean O'Connor
I would start by running current UCC searches in every state to see exactly what's still active. Don't rely on your old records because there could have been amendments, assignments, or partial releases you don't know about. Then group the active filings by secured party and send bulk termination demands with proof of satisfaction. Give them 30 days to respond and follow up aggressively.
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Zara Ahmed
•This is the right approach. We did exactly this and found that about 40% of the UCC-1s we thought were active had actually been terminated but the terminations weren't showing up in our portal searches because of name variations.
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Luca Conti
•Name variations are the worst. We had filings under 'Vivint Solar Inc' and 'Vivint Solar LLC' and 'Vivint Solar Developer LLC' - all for the same company but different legal entities.
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Nia Johnson
Whatever you do, don't just ignore the UCC filings hoping they'll expire. They can be continued indefinitely and will cause problems down the road. I've seen deals fall apart years later because of old solar UCC liens that were never properly terminated. The cost of clearing them now is nothing compared to the problems they'll cause later.
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CyberNinja
•Absolutely. We had a property refinancing get held up because of a 7-year-old solar UCC that should have been terminated. Cost us the rate lock and thousands in extra interest.
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StarGazer101
•That's exactly what I'm trying to avoid. These properties are part of a larger portfolio refinancing and the lender won't proceed until all UCC issues are resolved.
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Mateo Lopez
One more thing to consider - some states have different requirements for fixture filings vs equipment filings. Solar panels might be classified as fixtures in some jurisdictions, which could affect the termination process. Make sure you're filing UCC-3 terminations in the right place (Secretary of State vs county records).
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Aisha Abdullah
•Good point. We had filings in both places for the same equipment and had to do separate terminations. Very confusing process.
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Ethan Davis
•California is particularly tricky with solar fixture filings. The county recorder requirements are completely different from the Secretary of State requirements.
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Yuki Tanaka
I tried that Certana tool mentioned earlier and it actually worked really well for our document review. We had about 80 UCC filings to review and it caught several debtor name mismatches that would have caused our termination filings to be rejected. Definitely worth using if you're dealing with bulk document verification. The upload process was straightforward and the results were immediately useful.
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Carmen Ortiz
•Did it handle different document formats? We have some old scanned PDFs that are pretty low quality.
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Yuki Tanaka
•Yeah, it handled everything we threw at it. Even picked up text from some really old filings that were barely readable. Saved us from having to manually type out all the details for comparison.
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Jasmine Hancock
This thread is incredibly helpful - I'm dealing with a similar situation but with SunPower equipment across about 150 properties. One thing I'd add is to check if your original financing documents included any UCC release provisions or automatic termination clauses. In our case, the loan agreements actually required the secured party to file terminations within 30 days of payoff, which gave us stronger legal grounds when they were dragging their feet. Also, some states allow you to file a UCC-3 correction statement if the secured party files an incorrect termination that doesn't match your records exactly. It's worth having your attorney review the state-specific UCC procedures before you start the bulk termination process.
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