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SolarCity Corporation UCC Release - Need Help Finding Lien Records

Been trying to track down UCC records for SolarCity Corporation equipment financing from 2018-2019 timeframe. The solar panels were financed through what I believe was a UCC-1 filing but now I'm getting conflicting info about whether liens were properly released after Tesla acquisition. Anyone dealt with SolarCity Corporation UCC release issues? My title company is asking for proof of lien termination before we can close on property sale. Checked Delaware SOS and California but records seem scattered. Really need to get this sorted fast - closing is in 3 weeks.

SolarCity got messy after Tesla bought them out. A lot of their UCC filings transferred but terminations didn't always follow. What state was the original equipment installed in? That's usually where you'd find the fixture filing if it was done properly.

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Equipment is in Nevada. I've been searching Nevada SOS portal but their search function keeps timing out. Do you know if SolarCity used a standard naming convention for their UCC-1 filings?

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Nevada's system has been garbage lately. Try searching under both 'SolarCity Corporation' and 'SolarCity Corp' - they weren't consistent with entity names back then.

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for document verification. You can upload the original financing docs and any UCC records you find - it'll cross-check everything and flag missing terminations. Saved me weeks on a similar Tesla/SolarCity cleanup last month.

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That sounds helpful. Does it work with partial records? I only have the original lease agreement and some payment history.

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Yes, just upload whatever PDFs you have. It'll identify what's missing and give you specific filing numbers to search for. Makes the whole process way less frustrating.

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Tesla's legal department should have records of all assumed UCC obligations. The problem is getting them to respond in a reasonable timeframe. Have you tried contacting their successor liability department directly?

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I called Tesla customer service three times. They keep transferring me and no one seems to know about legacy SolarCity UCC issues. Got any direct contact info?

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Unfortunately no. Their legal team is notoriously slow. That's why getting the original filing details is so important - then you can file your own UCC-3 termination if needed.

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Wait, can you really file your own termination? I thought only the secured party could do that.

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If the debt is satisfied and you have documentation, some states allow debtor-initiated terminations. But it's risky - better to get proper authorization first.

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I went through this exact nightmare last year! SolarCity Corporation had like 12 different subsidiaries doing UCC filings. Check under SolarCity Systems, SolarCity Capital, even some numbered LLCs. The acquisition created a total mess of lien records.

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Oh god, 12 subsidiaries? How did you finally track everything down?

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Hired a UCC search company. Cost me $800 but they found filings in 4 different states I never would have thought to check. Nevada, Delaware, California, and weirdly one in New York.

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New York makes sense - that's where a lot of the financing entities were incorporated. Did you have to get separate terminations for each filing?

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Just a thought - have you checked if the equipment was actually subject to a UCC filing? Some SolarCity deals were structured as true leases, not security agreements. If it was a lease the panels might not have been collateral at all.

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The original paperwork says 'Solar Loan Agreement' so I assumed it was a secured transaction. But you're right, I should double check the actual terms.

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Yeah loan vs lease makes a huge difference. If it was actually a capital lease structured as a security agreement, then you definitely need that UCC release.

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This is bringing back bad memories. When Tesla acquired SolarCity, they were supposed to assume all financing obligations but the paperwork was a disaster. Took 8 months to get releases on our commercial project.

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8 months?! That's insane. Did you have to threaten legal action?

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Pretty much. Our attorney had to send multiple demand letters before Tesla's legal team finally processed the terminations. They were completely overwhelmed by the acquisition cleanup.

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Have you tried searching by the original debtor name instead of SolarCity Corporation? If this was residential solar financing, the UCC-1 might have been filed against the homeowner with SolarCity as secured party.

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Good point. I was searching by secured party name. Let me try searching with the property owner as debtor instead.

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That's probably where you'll find it. Residential solar UCC filings almost always use the homeowner as debtor since the panels are fixtures to their property.

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Am I the only one who thinks SolarCity Corporation UCC release issues are still happening because Tesla just doesn't care about cleaning up old paperwork? They made their money on the acquisition, why spend resources on terminations?

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Probably some truth to that. Big corporations hate spending money on administrative cleanup, especially when there's no immediate revenue impact.

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Tesla actually has a legal obligation to properly terminate satisfied liens. The problem is enforcement - who's going to force them to do it quickly?

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Just went through something similar with Certana.ai's verification tool. Uploaded my SolarCity docs and it immediately flagged that I had the wrong entity name in my search. Turns out the UCC-1 was filed under a subsidiary I'd never heard of.

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Which subsidiary? Maybe that'll help narrow down my search.

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In my case it was SolarCity Capital LLC, but apparently they used different entities in different states. The tool showed me exactly which name variations to search for.

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Three week closing deadline is tight for this kind of UCC mess. Have you considered asking your title company if they'll accept an indemnification agreement from Tesla instead of waiting for the actual termination?

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That's a great idea. I'll ask my title agent tomorrow. Even if Tesla won't cooperate on the termination, they might provide an indemnity letter.

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Worth a shot. Some title companies will accept indemnifications for solar equipment liens, especially if the financing is clearly satisfied.

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Just make sure the indemnification covers the full amount of any potential lien claim, not just the current loan balance.

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UPDATE: Found the filing! It was under the homeowner's name as debtor with 'SolarCity Systems' as secured party. Still no termination on file though. At least now I have the filing number to reference when I contact Tesla again.

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Great news! Having the actual filing number makes a huge difference when dealing with their legal department. They can't claim they can't find the records anymore.

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Awesome! Now you just need to prove the underlying debt was satisfied. Do you have final payment confirmation or loan payoff documentation?

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I have payment records showing the loan was paid in full last March. Hopefully that's enough documentation for Tesla to process the UCC-3 termination.

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That's exactly the documentation you need! With the filing number and proof of satisfaction, Tesla should be able to process the UCC-3 termination relatively quickly. I'd recommend sending them a formal written request with copies of the payment records and the UCC-1 filing number. If they drag their feet, mention that you have a closing deadline - sometimes that gets their attention faster than general requests.

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@Zara Ahmed has the right approach! Also, when you send that formal request to Tesla, make sure to include a reference to the Tesla-SolarCity acquisition agreement - they assumed all obligations including UCC termination duties. Sometimes mentioning specific legal obligations gets better results than just asking nicely. Good luck with your closing!

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@Miguel Hernández great point about referencing the acquisition agreement! I d'also suggest sending the request via certified mail so you have proof of delivery. Tesla s'legal department can t'claim they never received it. If you don t'hear back within 10 business days, escalate to their general counsel s'office. The acquisition created specific successor liability obligations that they can t'just ignore.

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This thread has been super helpful! As someone new to UCC issues, I'm curious - once Tesla files the UCC-3 termination, how long does it typically take to show up in the state records? My understanding is there can be delays between filing and when it appears in searchable databases. @Amina Bah with your tight closing timeline, you might want to ask Tesla to provide you with a copy of the filed UCC-3 directly rather than waiting for it to show up in Nevada s'system.

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