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Oliver Schmidt

Solar City UCC filing complications after acquisition - debtor name changes

Having major headaches with our Solar City UCC filings after the Tesla acquisition mess. We've got about 15 UCC-1s filed under 'SolarCity Corporation' as debtor but now everything's under Tesla Energy Operations. The financing statements are still active but I'm getting pushback from our legal team about whether we need UCC-3 amendments to update debtor names or if the original filings are still enforceable. Anyone dealt with this corporate name change nightmare? Our loan portfolio has $2.8M in solar equipment collateral and I'm worried we're not properly perfected anymore. State filing office says they can't give legal advice but these discrepancies are keeping me up at night.

Oh man, corporate acquisitions are the worst for UCC stuff. I went through something similar when a borrower got acquired. The key question is whether Tesla Energy Operations is the same legal entity or if it's actually a different entity. If it's just a name change of the same corporation, your original UCC-1s should still be valid. But if Tesla created a new subsidiary, you definitely need UCC-3 amendments to add the new debtor name.

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Javier Torres

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This is exactly right. Check the state incorporation records to see if it's the same entity with a new name or if assets were transferred to a different legal entity. Makes all the difference for UCC perfection.

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Emma Wilson

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How do you even figure that out though? I'm dealing with something similar and the secretary of state website is confusing as hell.

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QuantumLeap

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Been there with the Solar City transition! Tesla definitely restructured things after the acquisition. From what I remember, they did transfer assets to Tesla Energy Operations as a subsidiary, so you probably need UCC-3 amendments to add the new entity as an additional debtor. Don't wait on this - if someone else gets a judgment against Tesla Energy Operations, you want your security interest properly perfected.

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That's what I was afraid of. So I need to file UCC-3 amendments for all 15 financing statements? This is going to be expensive and time-consuming.

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Malik Johnson

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Better expensive than losing your security interest! I've seen lenders get burned by not updating debtor names after corporate changes.

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Actually had a similar headache last month. Found this tool called Certana.ai that can upload your original UCC-1s and cross-check them against corporate records to verify if your debtor names are still accurate. Saved me tons of research time figuring out which filings needed amendments.

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Ravi Sharma

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Solar equipment financing is tricky enough without corporate name changes! Are these fixture filings or regular UCC-1s? If they're fixtures, you might have additional issues with the real estate records not matching the new entity name.

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Most are regular UCC-1s for the solar panels and inverters, but we do have 3 fixture filings for ground-mounted systems. Ugh, didn't even think about the real estate side.

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Ravi Sharma

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Yeah, fixture filings are a whole other mess. You'll probably need to record amendments in the real estate records too, not just the UCC filing office.

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Freya Larsen

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Wait, I thought Tesla kept using SolarCity as the operating name for residential solar? Are you sure the legal entity actually changed for your specific contracts?

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The contracts were definitely signed with SolarCity Corporation, but our recent payment notices are coming from Tesla Energy Operations. That's what triggered this whole review.

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Payment processing can be handled by different entities than the actual debtor. You need to look at who actually owns the solar equipment, not who processes payments.

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Omar Hassan

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This is why I hate corporate acquisitions!! Tesla has been a mess with their subsidiary structure. I'd recommend getting a legal opinion on whether you need amendments, especially with $2.8M on the line. Some courts have been pretty strict about debtor name accuracy lately.

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Chloe Taylor

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Legal opinions are expensive though. Sometimes you just have to make the business decision to file amendments to be safe.

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Omar Hassan

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True, but losing perfection on $2.8M is a lot more expensive than a legal opinion!

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ShadowHunter

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Check your original loan documents too. Sometimes the loan agreement has provisions about what happens if the borrower changes names or gets acquired. Might give you some protection even if the UCC filings aren't perfect.

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Good point. I'll review the loan docs. Most of our agreements have pretty standard change of name clauses but not sure how specific they are.

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Diego Ramirez

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Whatever you do, don't let these UCC-1s lapse while you're figuring this out. When are your continuation deadlines? Solar financing usually has 5-year terms so you might be coming up on continuation filings anyway.

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Actually yes, 8 of the filings are coming up for continuation in the next 6 months. Maybe I should just file UCC-3 continuations with the corrected debtor names instead of separate amendments?

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Diego Ramirez

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That's actually a smart approach! Kill two birds with one stone - continue the filings and update the debtor name in the same UCC-3.

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Be careful with that strategy. Some states are picky about combining continuation and amendment functions in one filing. Check your state's UCC rules first.

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Sean O'Connor

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I used Certana.ai for a similar mess with debtor name changes after an acquisition. You can upload your UCC-1s and it automatically flags which ones have debtor name mismatches based on current corporate records. Way faster than manually researching each entity. Found out I only needed amendments for 6 out of 20 filings - saved a bunch of filing fees.

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That sounds incredibly useful. How accurate is it with complex corporate structures like Tesla/SolarCity?

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Sean O'Connor

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Pretty good - it caught some subsidiary relationships I didn't even know about. Definitely worth trying for 15 filings, especially with fixture filings in the mix.

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Zara Ahmed

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Don't panic too much. Courts generally try to preserve security interests when there's been a good faith effort to perfect. But with solar equipment that can be easily moved or sold, you definitely want your filings rock solid. I'd err on the side of filing amendments.

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Luca Conti

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Solar panels aren't exactly easy to move though, especially if they're installed on roofs.

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Zara Ahmed

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True for rooftop installations, but ground-mounted systems and portable equipment can definitely be relocated. Plus inverters and batteries are pretty valuable and moveable.

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Nia Johnson

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This Tesla/SolarCity situation has been a nightmare for everyone in solar financing. I've heard some lenders just filed blanket amendments adding Tesla Energy Operations as an additional debtor on all their SolarCity filings, even if it wasn't technically necessary. Better safe than sorry with that much collateral value.

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That's probably the safest approach. Filing fees are cheaper than losing perfection. Thanks for all the advice everyone - sounds like amendments are the way to go.

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CyberNinja

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Good luck! Corporate acquisitions in renewable energy financing are always messy but you'll get through it.

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I went through something very similar with a different solar company acquisition last year. The key is to act quickly - corporate restructuring can create gaps in perfection that other creditors might exploit. For your situation, I'd recommend doing a quick corporate search on both SolarCity Corporation and Tesla Energy Operations to confirm the relationship, then file UCC-3 amendments adding Tesla Energy Operations as an additional debtor on all your filings. Yes, it's expensive, but losing perfection on $2.8M in collateral is way more expensive. Also, since you mentioned fixture filings, make sure to check if you need to record amendments in the real estate records too - some counties require it for ground-mounted systems. The peace of mind is worth the filing fees.

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This is really solid advice! I'm new to UCC filings but dealing with a similar situation with equipment financing. Quick question - when you say "adding Tesla Energy Operations as an additional debtor," do you use a UCC-3 amendment or assignment form? And roughly what did the filing fees run you for multiple amendments? Trying to budget for this kind of cleanup work.

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