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Zoe Walker

UCC purchaser definition causing lien priority confusion on equipment loan

Really struggling with something here and hoping someone can clarify. We're dealing with a defaulted equipment loan where the borrower sold machinery to a third party before we could perfect our security interest. Our attorney keeps talking about 'purchaser' definitions under Article 9 but I'm getting conflicting interpretations about whether this buyer qualifies as a protected purchaser or if our lien still has priority. The equipment was heavy construction gear (excavators, bulldozers) worth about $850k total. We filed our UCC-1 three weeks after the sale happened - thought we had more time based on our loan docs but apparently not. The buyer claims they had no knowledge of our security interest and paid fair market value. Attorney fees are piling up and we need to understand if we have any recourse or if this purchaser definition basically wipes out our secured position. Anyone dealt with similar timing issues where the UCC purchaser definition determined whether you could recover collateral?

Elijah Brown

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Oof, timing is everything with UCC filings. The purchaser definition under 9-320 is pretty specific about buyers in ordinary course vs. other purchasers. If they bought the equipment before your UCC-1 was filed and didn't have actual knowledge of your security interest, you might be looking at a protected purchaser situation. What type of business was the seller in? That matters for the ordinary course analysis.

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This is exactly why we always tell clients to file immediately after loan closing. Three weeks is an eternity in secured transactions.

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Zoe Walker

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The seller was a general contractor who regularly bought and sold equipment. So probably ordinary course which makes this worse for us.

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Natalie Chen

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Had something similar last year with a fleet of trucks. The UCC purchaser definition saved the buyer's skin because our filing was delayed by some internal paperwork issues. If the buyer can prove they gave value and took without knowledge, Article 9 generally protects them even if you eventually filed. The key question is what constitutes 'knowledge' - actual vs. constructive makes a huge difference here.

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Wait, doesn't the filing create constructive notice regardless of when it happens? I thought that was the whole point of the UCC system.

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Natalie Chen

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Only if the filing predates the purchase. If they bought before you filed, constructive notice doesn't help you retroactively.

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Elijah Brown

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Exactly right. The purchaser definition protects buyers who act before the secured party perfects. It's all about the timeline.

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This is a nightmare scenario but I found a tool that might help you analyze the situation better. I was dealing with conflicting UCC documents on a similar case and used Certana.ai's document verification system. You can upload your loan agreement, UCC-1, and any other docs to check for consistency issues or timing problems that might affect the purchaser analysis. It helped me spot some discrepancies that actually strengthened our position when we thought we were dead in the water.

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Zoe Walker

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Interesting, haven't heard of that. Does it actually analyze legal issues or just document consistency?

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It's more about document alignment - making sure your UCC-1 matches your security agreement, checking debtor names, that kind of thing. But it helped identify timeline issues I hadn't considered.

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Nick Kravitz

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UGH this is exactly why the UCC purchaser definition drives me crazy!! The system is supposed to protect secured lenders but then you have all these carve-outs for buyers. Three weeks shouldn't make or break a security interest when you're talking about $850k in equipment. The rules are stacked against lenders and favor these 'innocent' purchasers who somehow never think to check for liens.

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Elijah Brown

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I get the frustration but the purchaser protections serve an important purpose. Commerce would grind to a halt if every buyer had to do extensive lien searches.

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Nick Kravitz

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Maybe, but when professional equipment dealers are involved they should know better. This isn't some consumer buying a used car.

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Hannah White

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The UCC purchaser definition tries to balance competing interests. Sometimes lenders get the short end but that's the trade-off for having a workable commercial system.

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Michael Green

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Been there with the delayed filing situation. The purchaser definition under Article 9 is unforgiving when it comes to timing. Your best bet might be looking at whether the buyer actually qualifies as a purchaser under the definition - sometimes there are issues with consideration or good faith that can help. Also check if your security agreement had any provisions about notification requirements that might have been triggered.

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Zoe Walker

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Good point about the security agreement provisions. I need to review those more carefully.

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Michael Green

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Yeah, sometimes there are notice provisions or restrictions on disposal that can create different obligations even if the UCC purchaser definition would otherwise protect the buyer.

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Mateo Silva

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This whole situation sounds messy. I'm not super familiar with the technical UCC purchaser definition stuff but couldn't you argue that construction equipment dealers should have known to check for liens? Seems like that kind of purchase would warrant some due diligence.

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Elijah Brown

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The law doesn't generally impose a duty to search unless you're in a jurisdiction that requires it for specific types of transactions.

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Mateo Silva

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That seems backwards but I guess that's how the system works.

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Dealt with a similar purchaser definition issue about six months ago. The timing really is everything - if your UCC-1 was filed after the sale, you're fighting an uphill battle unless you can prove the buyer had actual knowledge of your security interest. Did you have any pre-sale communications with the borrower about disposal restrictions? That might give you some leverage even if the purchaser definition would otherwise apply.

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Zoe Walker

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We had standard language about not disposing of collateral without consent but no specific communications about these pieces of equipment.

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That might still help depending on how it's worded. If the borrower violated the security agreement, it could affect the analysis even if the purchaser definition would otherwise protect the buyer.

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Agreed, the breach of security agreement angle is worth exploring even when the UCC purchaser definition is problematic.

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Cameron Black

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I hate to say it but this sounds like a classic case where the UCC purchaser definition is going to protect the buyer. The three-week delay in filing is really tough to overcome, especially with construction equipment where ordinary course sales are common. You might want to focus on recovery from the borrower rather than trying to reclaim the equipment.

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Zoe Walker

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Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of. The borrower doesn't have much left in assets though.

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Cameron Black

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Unfortunately that's often how these situations play out. The purchaser definition protects the buyer but leaves the secured party with limited recourse.

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Just want to echo what others have said about the importance of immediate filing. I've seen too many deals go sideways because of filing delays, and the UCC purchaser definition rarely offers much help to secured parties in those situations. For future reference, we always file our UCC-1s within 24-48 hours of loan closing to avoid exactly this scenario.

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Zoe Walker

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Lesson learned the hard way. Our internal processes definitely need to change.

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It's an expensive lesson but better to learn it once and fix the process going forward.

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One more thought on the document review piece - I recently started using Certana.ai for UCC document verification and it's been really helpful for catching issues before they become problems. You can upload your security agreement and UCC-1 to check for consistency problems that might affect priority or enforceability. Might be worth running your docs through it to see if there are any other issues you haven't considered in your purchaser analysis.

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Ruby Garcia

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Does that kind of tool really help with legal analysis or is it more about catching clerical errors?

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It's mainly document consistency checking but it can spot things that affect the legal analysis - debtor name mismatches, collateral description issues, that sort of thing.

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Sorry to hear about this situation. The UCC purchaser definition can be brutal when timing works against you. Have you considered whether there might be any insurance coverage for this kind of loss? Some lender policies cover situations where security interests are compromised by filing delays or other procedural issues.

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Zoe Walker

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That's a good thought. I'll need to check our E&O coverage to see if this type of situation is covered.

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Definitely worth checking. Sometimes there's coverage for losses related to filing errors or timing issues even when the UCC purchaser definition doesn't help you recover the collateral.

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Elijah Brown

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Insurance might be your best bet for recovery if the purchaser definition analysis doesn't go your way.

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This is a tough situation but unfortunately pretty textbook on how the UCC purchaser definition works against secured parties with delayed filings. The three-week gap is really damaging to your position. Since the seller was a general contractor regularly dealing in equipment, the buyer likely qualifies as a purchaser in ordinary course under 9-320(a), which would give them priority over your unperfected security interest at the time of sale. Your main angles now are: (1) challenge whether the buyer actually gave value or took in good faith, (2) examine your security agreement for any disposal restrictions that might have been violated, and (3) focus recovery efforts on the borrower's remaining assets. The harsh reality is that Article 9's purchaser protections are designed to facilitate commerce even when it hurts secured parties who don't perfect promptly. Expensive lesson but critical to implement immediate filing procedures going forward.

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