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Chloe Mitchell

UCC opp search showing weird results - am I missing something obvious?

Running into some confusion with UCC opp search functionality. Been trying to locate existing filings for a debtor before we file our UCC-1, but the search results are all over the place. Sometimes I get hits that don't seem related to our debtor, other times filings I know exist aren't showing up at all. Is there some trick to getting accurate UCC opp search results? The debtor name variations are driving me crazy - should I be searching exact matches only or using wildcards? Really don't want to miss an existing senior lien that could mess up our priority position.

Michael Adams

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UCC opp search can be tricky depending on which state system you're using. Are you searching by exact debtor name or trying different variations? Most systems are pretty literal with name matching.

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Trying both exact and variations but getting inconsistent results. Sometimes LLC shows up, sometimes it doesn't when I search without the LLC suffix.

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Natalie Wang

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Yeah that's the classic debtor name matching problem. You really need to try every possible variation of the business name.

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Noah Torres

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I've been doing UCC searches for 15 years and the key is understanding how each state's search logic works. Some states do partial matching, others require exact character matches including punctuation. What state are you searching in?

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Multiple states actually - we have collateral in different jurisdictions. That might be part of the problem.

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Noah Torres

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Oh that definitely complicates it. Each state SOS has different search algorithms. Delaware is very literal, California has some fuzzy matching, New York falls somewhere in between.

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Samantha Hall

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload your UCC search results and it cross-checks everything against your debtor information to catch inconsistencies. Saved me from missing a critical prior filing last month.

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Ryan Young

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UCC opp search is honestly broken in half the states. I spend way too much time trying different name combinations just to make sure I'm not missing anything important.

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Sophia Clark

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Tell me about it! Last week I found a filing under a completely different spelling of the company name that didn't show up in any of my normal searches.

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That's terrifying. How are we supposed to do proper due diligence if the search function is unreliable?

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Madison Allen

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Pro tip: always search with and without common suffixes (Inc, LLC, Corp, Ltd). Also try searching just the root business name without any entity designation. The number of times I've found filings that way is ridiculous.

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Good point about the suffixes. I was probably being too specific with the full legal name.

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Joshua Wood

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Also search for any DBA names or trade names the company might use. Those can show up in UCC filings too.

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Justin Evans

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Wait, are you saying some filers use trade names instead of the legal entity name on UCC-1 forms? That seems wrong.

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Emily Parker

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The search inconsistency is why I always do manual verification after getting results. Can't trust the automated matching to catch everything, especially with business name variations.

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Ezra Collins

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Manual verification sounds time-consuming but probably necessary. Do you have a systematic approach for that?

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Emily Parker

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I keep a checklist of name variations to try, including common abbreviations and different punctuation patterns. Takes extra time but beats missing a senior lien.

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Another thing to watch for - sometimes the UCC opp search will show terminated filings mixed in with active ones. Make sure you're checking the status and not just assuming everything that shows up is still effective.

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Good reminder. I've seen search results that include filings that expired years ago but still show up in results.

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Yeah I noticed that too. Some of the hits I'm getting are definitely for terminated filings that should have dropped off.

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Zara Perez

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Just went through this exact problem last month. Ended up finding three different UCC-1 filings under slight variations of the same company name that the standard search missed. Really makes you question the reliability of the whole system.

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Daniel Rogers

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Three different filings? That's exactly what I'm worried about missing. How did you finally track them all down?

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Zara Perez

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Honestly, trial and error with dozens of name combinations. Also had to search by filing number ranges when I suspected there might be more.

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Aaliyah Reed

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I've had good luck with Certana.ai for situations like this. Upload your charter documents and it automatically generates all the possible debtor name variations to search for. Catches stuff I would never think to try manually.

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Ella Russell

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The UCC opp search issue is getting worse as more states move to electronic filing systems. The old paper-based searches were more forgiving with name variations.

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Mohammed Khan

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Really? I would have thought electronic systems would be better at fuzzy matching and finding variations.

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Ella Russell

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You'd think so, but most state systems seem to prioritize exact matching over intelligent searching. Makes sense from a legal precision standpoint but creates practical problems.

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Gavin King

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Have you tried searching by filing number if you have any clues about when previous filings might have been made? Sometimes that's more reliable than name-based searches.

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Don't have specific filing numbers to work with, but that's an interesting approach. Would need to know the approximate filing date ranges though.

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Nathan Kim

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You can sometimes narrow it down if you know when the debtor took out loans or entered into financing agreements. UCC-1s usually get filed around the same time.

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This whole thread is making me paranoid about our UCC search procedures. We might be missing critical filings and not even know it. The potential liability exposure is huge if we get the priority wrong because of search limitations.

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Lucas Turner

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That's a valid concern. Maybe time to invest in better search tools or verification processes to reduce that risk.

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Kai Rivera

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Definitely worth the investment. I started using Certana.ai after a close call where we almost missed a senior lien. The automated cross-checking between documents has been a lifesaver for catching these kinds of issues.

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Might have to look into that. Our current manual process is clearly not catching everything it should.

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