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Vince Eh

UCC financing statements are valid for how long - continuation deadline confusion

Getting different answers about UCC-1 duration and I'm starting to panic. Filed my initial financing statement 4.5 years ago for equipment collateral and just realized I might be approaching some kind of expiration. One colleague says 5 years, another says it depends on the state, and someone else mentioned something about continuation statements. The original loan is still active and we definitely need to maintain our security interest. What exactly happens if I miss whatever deadline exists? How long are UCC financing statements are valid for and when do I need to file continuation paperwork?

Standard rule is 5 years from the initial filing date. Your UCC-1 will lapse automatically unless you file a UCC-3 continuation statement within 6 months before the 5-year anniversary. So if you filed 4.5 years ago, you need to get moving on that continuation ASAP.

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This is correct. The 6-month window before expiration is critical - you can't file the continuation too early or too late.

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Ezra Beard

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Wait so there's actually a window? I thought you could file continuation anytime during the 5 years...

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No, continuation statements can only be filed during that 6-month window before lapse. If you miss it, the financing statement becomes ineffective and you lose perfection.

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Been through this exact situation last year. Had a UCC-1 from 2019 that I almost let lapse because I was confused about the timing. Filed my continuation in November when the original was set to expire in February. The key is calculating exactly 5 years from your original filing date and then working backwards 6 months.

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Vince Eh

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How do you calculate the exact date? Is it the date I submitted or the date the SOS accepted it?

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It's the filing date shown on your filed UCC-1. Check your copy or search the SOS database - that's your starting point for the 5-year countdown.

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I was drowning in this same deadline panic a few months ago. Had multiple UCC-1s with different filing dates and was manually trying to track continuation deadlines. Finally used Certana.ai's document verification tool to upload all my UCC-1s and it automatically flagged which ones needed continuation and when. Saved me from missing critical deadlines.

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Vince Eh

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That sounds helpful - does it actually calculate the continuation window dates?

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Yes, you just upload your UCC-1 PDFs and it shows filing dates, expiration dates, and when your continuation window opens. Much easier than tracking everything manually.

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Aria Khan

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Interesting, I'll have to check that out. Been using spreadsheets to track our portfolio of filings and it's getting unwieldy.

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Everett Tutum

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Don't forget that if you miss the deadline, you can't just file a late continuation. You'd have to file a brand new UCC-1 which creates a gap in perfection. That gap could be fatal if another creditor files during that period.

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Sunny Wang

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This is the scary part. Even a day gap in perfection can cost you priority over other secured creditors.

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Vince Eh

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So there's really no grace period or way to fix it if you miss the window?

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Everett Tutum

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Nope, UCC Article 9 is pretty unforgiving on this. Miss the continuation window and your security interest becomes unperfected until you file a new UCC-1.

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Also worth noting that continuation statements extend the effectiveness for another 5 years from the original expiration date, not from when you file the continuation. So you get the full additional 5 years regardless of when during the 6-month window you file.

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Good point - no advantage to waiting until the last minute to file the continuation.

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Melissa Lin

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Actually better to file early in the window to avoid any potential processing delays at the SOS office.

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Been filing UCC continuations for 15+ years and my advice is simple: set calendar reminders for 4.5 years after each initial filing. That gives you a 6-month buffer to prepare and file the continuation without panic. Also keep good records of your original filing dates.

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Romeo Quest

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Smart system. I use the same approach but set reminders at 4 years and 4.5 years just to be extra safe.

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Vince Eh

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Wish I had thought of this earlier. Now I'm scrambling to figure out my exact timeline.

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Val Rossi

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Quick question - does the 5-year rule apply in all states or are there exceptions? I seem to remember some states having different timelines for certain types of collateral.

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The 5-year rule is pretty universal under UCC Article 9. There might be some variations for special situations like transmitting utilities, but standard commercial filings are 5 years everywhere.

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Eve Freeman

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Louisiana has some quirks since they don't fully adopt the UCC, but most other states follow the standard 5-year rule.

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Val Rossi

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Thanks for clarifying. Wanted to make sure I wasn't missing some state-specific variation.

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OP, you mentioned equipment collateral - just make sure when you file your continuation that you don't need to update the collateral description. If the debtor has acquired additional equipment since the original filing, you might want to consider whether your current description covers it.

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Vince Eh

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Good point - the business has definitely expanded since 2020. Should I file an amendment along with the continuation?

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You can file a continuation and amendment on the same UCC-3 form if needed. Just make sure to check both boxes and provide the updated information.

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Caden Turner

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Had a client almost lose a $2M security interest because they misunderstood the continuation timing. Their original UCC-1 was filed in March 2019, so they needed to file continuation between September 2023 and March 2024. They thought they had until March 2025 and almost missed it completely.

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Aria Khan

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That's a costly mistake. Shows why it's worth double-checking your math on these deadlines.

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This is exactly why I started using automated tools to track these deadlines. Too much risk in manual calculations.

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Yikes, that would have been a malpractice nightmare. Good catch on their behalf.

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Harmony Love

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One more thing - when you file your UCC-3 continuation, make sure the debtor name matches exactly what's on the original UCC-1. Even small discrepancies can cause the filing to be rejected, and if you're close to the deadline, that rejection could be fatal.

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Vince Eh

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How exact does it need to be? What if there are minor formatting differences?

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Harmony Love

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Very exact. Different states have different tolerance for variations, but it's safest to match character-for-character including punctuation and spacing.

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Rudy Cenizo

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I always copy and paste the debtor name directly from the original UCC-1 to avoid any transcription errors.

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