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Ava Kim

UCC-1 financing statement duration - 5 year rule confusion

I'm handling a commercial loan portfolio review and getting conflicting information about UCC-1 financing statement duration limits. Our bank filed several UCC-1s back in 2020 for equipment financing deals, and I'm trying to figure out when we need to file continuations to maintain perfection. Some sources say 5 years from filing date, others mention different rules for different collateral types. We have about $2.8M in secured debt that could be at risk if I mess up the timing. One of our UCC-1s was filed March 15, 2020 - does that mean I need to file a continuation by March 15, 2025? And what happens if we miss the deadline by a few days? I've been burned before by SOS rejection letters and really can't afford to have liens lapse on this portfolio. Any guidance on the actual duration rules would be hugely appreciated.

Standard rule is 5 years from the initial filing date for UCC-1 financing statements. Your March 15, 2020 filing would lapse on March 15, 2025 unless you file a UCC-3 continuation. The 5-year rule applies regardless of collateral type - equipment, inventory, accounts receivable, whatever. Missing the deadline is not forgiving - once it lapses, your security interest becomes unperfected and you lose priority.

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Layla Mendes

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This is correct. I learned this the hard way when we missed a continuation deadline by 3 days and lost a $180K security interest to a subsequent creditor. The statute doesn't give you grace periods.

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Wait, I thought there were different rules for fixture filings? Or is that only for real estate-related collateral?

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Fixture filings can be different - they might follow real estate recording rules in some states. But for standard UCC-1s on personal property, it's the uniform 5-year rule across all states.

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Aria Park

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You need to file your UCC-3 continuation within 6 months before the 5-year expiration date. So for your March 15, 2020 filing, you can file the continuation anytime between September 15, 2024 and March 15, 2025. I usually recommend filing 3-4 months early to avoid any last-minute portal issues or document preparation delays.

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Ava Kim

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That's exactly what I needed to know about the 6-month window. So I could have already filed the continuation back in September? I was worried about filing too early and having it rejected.

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Aria Park

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Yes, you can file as early as 6 months before expiration. The system calculates the new 5-year period from the original expiration date, not from when you file the continuation.

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Noah Ali

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I had a similar portfolio review situation last year and ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool to cross-check all our UCC-1 filings against our loan agreements. You upload the original UCC-1 and it flags any discrepancies in debtor names, filing numbers, or collateral descriptions that could cause problems down the road. Caught three name mismatches that would have made our continuations worthless.

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Ava Kim

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That sounds helpful - were there obvious errors or subtle name variations that would be easy to miss?

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Noah Ali

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Mix of both. One was a clear typo in the debtor name, but two others were corporate name changes that happened after filing. The tool flagged that the current corporate records didn't match the UCC-1 debtor names.

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Corporate name changes are brutal for UCC filings. You have to file amendments to update the debtor name or risk losing perfection when the old name becomes seriously misleading.

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Just to add some anxiety to your day - make sure you're tracking the right filing dates! I've seen situations where people confused the date they submitted documents with the actual filing date assigned by the SOS office. The 5-year period runs from the official filing date on the financing statement, not when you hit submit on the portal.

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Ava Kim

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Great point. I'm looking at the official UCC-1 forms we received back from the state, not our internal submission records.

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Olivia Harris

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Also double-check that you received proper acknowledgment letters from the SOS. I had one filing that I thought went through but was actually rejected for a debtor name issue.

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The duration rule is straightforward but the consequences of missing it are severe. Once a UCC-1 lapses, you can't revive it - you'd have to file a completely new financing statement. And if another creditor filed in the meantime, they could have priority over your 'new' filing even though your debt is older.

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Alicia Stern

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This is why I set calendar reminders 6 months before every expiration date. Too much risk to rely on memory or informal tracking systems.

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Ava Kim

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I'm definitely setting up a better tracking system after this review. Having $2.8M in exposure because of calendar management is terrifying.

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Smart move. I've seen banks lose millions in security interests due to lapsed continuations. The legal department always acts shocked, but it's usually just poor administrative controls.

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One thing that trips people up - if you have multiple UCC-1s filed on different dates, each one has its own 5-year expiration cycle. You can't group them together for continuation purposes. I manage about 40 active filings and have to track each expiration date individually.

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Ava Kim

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That's my exact situation. Multiple filings across 2019-2021 timeframe, all with different expiration dates coming up.

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Drake

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Excel spreadsheet with conditional formatting is your friend here. Set it to highlight rows when you're within the 6-month continuation window.

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Sarah Jones

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Make sure you understand what happens with partial releases too. If you've filed UCC-3 terminations for some collateral but left other items on the financing statement, the 5-year expiration still applies to whatever collateral remains. The partial release doesn't reset the clock.

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Ava Kim

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Good point. We did release some equipment that was paid off, but kept other items secured under the same UCC-1.

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Sarah Jones

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Exactly. The continuation protects whatever collateral is still covered by the financing statement as of the expiration date.

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I always recommend reviewing the current collateral schedule before filing continuations to make sure you're protecting what you actually need.

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Emily Sanjay

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For what it's worth, I've found that most SOS offices are pretty efficient with UCC-3 continuations. Usually processed within 1-2 business days if there are no errors. Just make sure your filing fee is correct and the original filing number is accurate.

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Layla Mendes

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Filing fees vary by state though. Some charge per debtor name, others have flat rates. Worth checking the current fee schedule.

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Ava Kim

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I'll double-check our state's current fees. Don't want rejections due to underpayment.

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Jordan Walker

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One more verification tip - before filing your continuations, run the debtor names through the UCC search system to make sure your original filings are still showing up correctly. Sometimes there are data entry errors in the state system that don't surface until you try to file amendments or continuations.

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Ava Kim

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That's a great suggestion. I'll pull current search reports for all our filings before preparing the continuations.

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Natalie Adams

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I actually ran into this issue where our UCC-1 was in the system but had a garbled debtor name. Had to file a UCC-3 amendment to correct it before we could do the continuation.

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This is where Certana.ai's verification really helps - it can spot discrepancies between what you think you filed and what's actually in the public records.

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Amara Torres

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Bottom line: don't overthink the duration rule. It's 5 years from filing date, period. Your energy is better spent on making sure your continuation forms are accurate and filed within the 6-month window. The mechanics are straightforward if you stay organized.

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Ava Kim

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Thanks everyone. This thread gave me the confidence to move forward with the continuations. I'll set up proper tracking for future cycles too.

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Good luck with your filings! Portfolio reviews are stressful but catching these issues early is exactly what you should be doing.

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Yuki Ito

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One additional consideration for your portfolio review - make sure you're also checking whether any of your borrowers have changed their organizational structure since the original UCC-1 filings. If a debtor incorporated, merged, or was acquired, you may need to file UCC-3 amendments to add the new entity name before filing continuations. The 4-month rule for seriously misleading name changes could impact your security interest even if you get the continuation timing right.

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This is such an important point that often gets overlooked! I've seen situations where banks diligently filed their continuations on time but still lost perfection because the debtor had undergone a merger 18 months earlier and the original entity name became seriously misleading. The UCC doesn't care that your continuation was timely if the underlying financing statement has a name problem. Do you have a systematic way to monitor corporate changes for your borrowers?

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