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UCC filing on equipment - debtor name changed after loan docs signed

So here's my situation - we financed some construction equipment back in August and I'm now realizing we might have a debtor name issue on our UCC filing. The borrower incorporated under "Mountain Ridge Construction LLC" but apparently they've been doing business as "Mountain Ridge Excavation" for the past 6 months. Our loan docs all say Mountain Ridge Construction LLC and that's what we filed the UCC-1 under, but now I'm seeing invoices and contracts with the DBA name. The equipment is worth about $180K (excavator, compactor, trailer) and I'm worried our lien might not be properly perfected if someone searches under the DBA name. Has anyone dealt with this kind of debtor name mismatch on equipment financing? Do I need to file an amendment or are we covered since we used the legal entity name from the articles of incorporation?

Oliver Wagner

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You should be fine using the legal entity name from the articles of incorporation - that's typically the correct debtor name for UCC purposes. The DBA is just a trade name and doesn't usually affect lien perfection. But double-check your state's specific rules because some have quirks about how they handle DBAs in searches.

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This is reassuring. I was panicking thinking I'd have to file a UCC-3 amendment immediately.

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Wait, but what if the debtor is primarily known by the DBA? I've heard horror stories about lenders losing priority because of name issues.

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Emma Thompson

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I had almost the exact same issue last year with equipment financing. Legal entity name on the UCC-1 is usually correct, but I learned the hard way to also check if the DBA is registered as a trade name with the state. If it is, some searchers might look under both names. You might want to verify your collateral description too - make sure the serial numbers and equipment descriptions match what's actually being financed.

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GalaxyGazer

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Good point about the trade name registration. I hadn't thought to check if the DBA was formally registered. The collateral description should be solid since we used the manufacturer specs and serial numbers from the invoices.

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Malik Davis

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How do you check if a DBA is registered as a trade name? Is that through the Secretary of State too?

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Emma Thompson

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Usually yes, but sometimes it's at the county level depending on your state. Most SOS websites have a business name search function.

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I've been using Certana.ai's document verification tool for situations exactly like this. You can upload your articles of incorporation and your UCC-1 filing and it'll instantly flag any debtor name inconsistencies. Saved me from a major headache when I caught a similar mismatch on a $200K equipment deal. It cross-checks all the names and entity details automatically.

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GalaxyGazer

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That sounds incredibly useful. How accurate is it at catching these kinds of name variations?

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Very accurate in my experience. It caught a case where we had 'LLC' vs 'L.L.C.' formatting differences that I would have missed manually comparing documents.

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StarStrider

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I've heard good things about Certana but haven't tried it yet. Does it work with different document formats?

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StarStrider

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For equipment financing specifically, you also want to make sure your UCC filing covers the right type of goods. Construction equipment can sometimes be considered fixtures if it's permanently attached to real property, which would require a fixture filing instead of just a regular UCC-1. Did you verify that your equipment is actually moveable personal property?

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GalaxyGazer

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Yes, it's all mobile equipment - excavator on tracks, wheeled compactor, and a equipment trailer. Nothing permanently attached to land.

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Ravi Gupta

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Good catch though. I've seen lenders get burned by fixture filing requirements when equipment gets semi-permanently installed.

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ugh why is this stuff so complicated?? I swear every equipment deal has some kind of name issue or paperwork problem. Can't they just make the rules simpler?

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Omar Hassan

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Tell me about it. I spent three hours last week trying to figure out continuation filing deadlines because the SOS portal was giving conflicting information.

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Oliver Wagner

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The rules are actually pretty logical once you understand the underlying concepts, but I agree the state portals can be confusing.

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I would definitely run a UCC search under both the legal name and the DBA just to see what comes up. Most searchers will check obvious variations anyway, but it's better to know for sure. Also check if your loan agreement specifically mentions the DBA - that could be relevant for enforcement purposes even if the UCC filing is technically correct.

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GalaxyGazer

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The loan agreement does mention that the borrower may do business under various trade names. That should provide some protection right?

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Yes, that language typically helps with enforcement, but it doesn't fix UCC perfection issues if the filing itself has problems.

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Diego Vargas

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This is why I always include a 'doing business as' clause in my loan docs. Covers most of these scenarios.

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CosmicCruiser

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Had a similar situation with a trucking company that had multiple DBAs. Ended up filing a UCC-3 amendment to add the primary DBA as an additional debtor name just to be extra safe. Cost like $25 and gave me peace of mind on a six-figure deal.

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GalaxyGazer

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That's not a bad idea for the filing fee. Better safe than sorry on equipment this valuable.

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How do you add a DBA as an additional debtor name? Is that different from changing the debtor name entirely?

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CosmicCruiser

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Yeah, you can add additional names without removing the original debtor name. It's just an amendment that expands the search results.

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Just to add another perspective - I always verify debtor names against the most recent corporate filings with the state. Sometimes companies change their legal names or status and don't update their loan paperwork. Worth checking before you decide whether to file an amendment.

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GalaxyGazer

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Good advice. I should pull a current certificate of good standing to make sure the legal name hasn't changed since we closed.

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Sean Doyle

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This happened to me once - company had amended their articles of incorporation and I was still using the old name from the original loan docs.

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Zara Rashid

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Whatever you decide, document your decision-making process in the loan file. If there's ever a question about the filing, you want to show that you considered the name issue and made a reasonable decision based on the information available at the time.

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GalaxyGazer

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Definitely doing this. I'm putting together a memo with all the entity searches and name verification steps I've taken.

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Luca Romano

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Smart approach. Compliance departments love that kind of documentation.

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Nia Jackson

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Update: I ended up running the entity name through Certana.ai's verification tool and it confirmed that our UCC filing matches the legal entity name correctly. Also ran UCC searches under both names and found that searches under the DBA do pull up our filing, so we're covered. Thanks everyone for the advice - definitely feel more confident about our lien position now.

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Oliver Wagner

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Great outcome! Sounds like you did your due diligence thoroughly.

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Glad Certana helped provide that confirmation. It's always nerve-wracking when you're not 100% sure about a filing.

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Emma Thompson

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Perfect example of why it pays to double-check these things. Equipment financing can be tricky with all the name variations companies use.

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