UCC filing confusion - got 1-308 reference from Canadian lender
I'm dealing with a cross-border equipment financing situation and my Canadian lender mentioned something about "UCC 1-308" in their documentation. I've been working with UCC filings for years but I've never seen this reference before. Is this some kind of international UCC form or amendment type? The equipment is located in the US but the financing is coming from a Toronto-based company. I need to file the UCC-1 properly but I'm not sure if there's a special procedure when Canadian entities are involved. Has anyone dealt with this before? The lender keeps referencing 1-308 but I can't find any UCC form or section with that designation. I'm worried I'm missing something important that could affect the perfection of their security interest.
36 comments


Emma Bianchi
I think there might be some confusion here. There's no UCC 1-308 form or section in the Uniform Commercial Code. The standard forms are UCC-1 (initial financing statement), UCC-3 (amendment, continuation, termination), and various addenda. Cross-border filings don't change the basic UCC form numbers. Are you sure they didn't mean something else?
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Mia Green
•That's what I thought too but they keep mentioning it. Maybe it's some internal reference number they use? The equipment is definitely in the US so I know I need to file the UCC-1 here.
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Lucas Kowalski
•Canadian lenders sometimes have weird internal codes that don't match US filing systems. I'd ask them to clarify what they actually need for the UCC filing.
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Olivia Martinez
I've done plenty of cross-border equipment financing and there's definitely no UCC 1-308. For Canadian lenders, you still file the standard UCC-1 in the US state where the equipment is located. The debtor name has to match exactly what's on the loan documents. Maybe they're referring to some Canadian provincial filing requirement?
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Mia Green
•That makes sense. I'll double-check the debtor name formatting. They provided the company name in a slightly different format than what I usually see.
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Charlie Yang
•Yeah debtor name accuracy is critical. I've seen filings rejected because of minor formatting differences between the loan docs and the UCC-1.
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Grace Patel
•Cross-border deals can be tricky with entity names. Make sure you're using the exact legal name as registered in the US, not the Canadian version.
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ApolloJackson
I ran into something similar last year with a Montreal-based lender. They had all these internal reference numbers that meant nothing for US UCC filings. I ended up uploading both their loan agreement and my draft UCC-1 to Certana.ai's document checker to make sure everything aligned properly. It caught a mismatch in how they formatted the debtor's corporate suffix that would have caused filing issues.
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Mia Green
•That's a good idea. I want to make sure there are no inconsistencies between their documents and my UCC-1 before I submit it.
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Isabella Russo
•Those document verification tools are helpful for catching name discrepancies. Better to find issues before the filing gets rejected.
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Rajiv Kumar
honestly this sounds like the lender doesn't understand US UCC filing requirements... I've had Canadian banks give me completely wrong information about US secured transactions before. Just ignore their weird number and file the standard UCC-1.
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Aria Washington
•I agree. Foreign lenders often don't understand our UCC system. Stick to the standard forms and procedures regardless of what they call it.
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Mia Green
•Good point. I'll focus on getting the UCC-1 filed correctly and let them worry about their internal tracking numbers.
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Liam O'Reilly
Wait, could they be referring to UCC Section 1-308? That's about reservation of rights, not a filing form. But that wouldn't make sense in this context either. I think they're just confused about US filing requirements.
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Mia Green
•Interesting thought. I'll ask them to clarify what they actually mean by 1-308 and what they need from me for the US filing.
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Emma Bianchi
•Yeah that section is about preserving rights under agreements, not about filing forms. Definitely not what they need for equipment financing.
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Chloe Delgado
I've been doing UCC filings for 15 years and never heard of 1-308 as a form number. For equipment financing with Canadian lenders, you still file the standard UCC-1 in the state where the equipment is located. Make sure the debtor name matches their loan documents exactly - that's usually where problems arise with foreign lenders.
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Mia Green
•Thanks for the confirmation. I'll proceed with the standard UCC-1 and focus on getting the debtor name right.
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Ava Harris
•Debtor name accuracy is everything. I've seen too many filings become useless because of name mismatches.
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Jacob Lee
This is probably just their internal reference system. I work with international lenders all the time and they often have codes that don't mean anything for US filings. Focus on the UCC-1 requirements and ignore their numbering system.
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Mia Green
•That's reassuring. I was worried I was missing some special requirement for Canadian lenders.
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Emily Thompson
•Nope, no special requirements. Same UCC-1 form regardless of where the lender is located.
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Sophie Hernandez
Just to add another perspective - I recently had a similar situation and used Certana.ai to verify that my UCC-1 matched the Canadian lender's security agreement. It's really helpful for cross-border deals where you want to make sure all the documents are consistent before filing.
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Mia Green
•I'm definitely going to try that. Better to catch any issues before submitting to the Secretary of State.
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Olivia Martinez
•Smart approach. Document consistency is crucial, especially with foreign lenders who might format things differently.
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Daniela Rossi
The 1-308 reference is probably meaningless for your purposes. File the UCC-1 with the correct debtor name and collateral description. That's all you need for perfection in the US.
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Mia Green
•Thanks everyone. I'll move forward with the standard UCC-1 and make sure the debtor name is exact.
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Ryan Kim
I had a Toronto lender once who kept referring to their internal codes like they were official UCC forms. Very confusing. Just stick to the standard filing requirements and you'll be fine.
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Mia Green
•Sounds like a common issue with Canadian lenders. Good to know I'm not the only one who's encountered this.
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Zoe Walker
•Yeah, foreign lenders often don't understand our system. Focus on getting the UCC-1 right and let them sort out their internal processes.
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Dylan Campbell
I've dealt with this exact scenario before with several Canadian lenders. There's definitely no UCC 1-308 form - they're likely using an internal reference number that has nothing to do with US filing requirements. For cross-border equipment financing, you still file a standard UCC-1 in the state where the equipment is physically located. The key things to watch out for: make sure the debtor name exactly matches what's in their security agreement (Canadian entities sometimes have slightly different legal name formats), verify the collateral description is sufficient under US law, and don't let their internal numbering system confuse the actual filing requirements. I'd recommend asking them directly what specific information they need on the UCC-1 rather than trying to decode their reference numbers.
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Jordan Walker
•This is really helpful advice! I appreciate the confirmation that there's no UCC 1-308 form. I'll reach out to the lender directly to clarify what they actually need for the US filing and make sure I'm not overthinking their internal reference system. The point about debtor name formatting differences between Canadian and US entities is something I hadn't fully considered - I'll pay extra attention to that.
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Niko Ramsey
I've run into this exact same confusion with Canadian lenders before! There's definitely no official UCC 1-308 form or section that applies to financing statement filings. What I've learned from experience is that many Canadian financial institutions use their own internal coding systems that don't translate to US UCC requirements at all. For your equipment financing, you'll just need to file a standard UCC-1 in the state where the equipment is located. The most critical thing is ensuring the debtor name on your UCC-1 exactly matches how it appears in their loan documents - I've seen Canadian lenders format corporate entity names differently than what we typically use in the US. I'd suggest asking them for a clear breakdown of what information they actually need on the US filing, and politely ignore any references to their "1-308" code since it's likely just their internal tracking system.
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Dylan Evans
•This is exactly the kind of clarity I needed! I've been dealing with cross-border transactions for a while, but this was my first time encountering such confusing internal reference numbers from a Canadian lender. Your advice about focusing on the debtor name formatting is spot on - I'm going to double-check that the entity name on my UCC-1 matches their security agreement exactly, character by character. It's reassuring to know that other professionals have faced this same confusion with Canadian institutions. I'll definitely ask them to break down their actual US filing requirements and separate that from their internal tracking codes.
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Carmen Ortiz
I've encountered this exact situation multiple times with Canadian lenders, and you're absolutely right to be confused - there is no UCC 1-308 form or section in the Uniform Commercial Code. This sounds like their internal reference system that has zero relevance to your actual US filing requirements. For equipment financing with Canadian lenders, you still file the standard UCC-1 in the state where the equipment is physically located, just like any domestic transaction. The main pitfall I've seen is debtor name mismatches - Canadian entities often have slightly different legal name formats or corporate suffixes that don't align with US naming conventions. I'd recommend getting a copy of their security agreement and comparing the exact debtor name formatting to what you plan to put on the UCC-1. Also, ask them point-blank what specific information they need on the US filing and ignore any references to their "1-308" code - it's likely just confusing their internal processes with actual UCC requirements.
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NebulaNomad
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing your experience with Canadian lenders! I've been second-guessing myself all week trying to figure out what this mysterious "1-308" reference could be. Your point about debtor name formatting differences is something I definitely need to pay closer attention to. I'm going to request a copy of their security agreement and do a side-by-side comparison with my draft UCC-1 before filing. It's reassuring to know that this confusion with Canadian internal codes is common and that I should just focus on the standard UCC-1 requirements. I'll ask them directly for their US filing requirements and politely ignore their internal tracking numbers.
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