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Harper Collins

UCC filing confusion - chattel security agreement collateral description rejected twice

Equipment financing nightmare here. Filed UCC-1 for restaurant equipment purchase (commercial ovens, prep tables, walk-in cooler) but SOS keeps rejecting due to collateral description issues. Our chattel security agreement lists specific model numbers and serial numbers but the UCC description just says 'restaurant equipment as described in security agreement dated March 15, 2025.' Lender is getting antsy because we're past the 20-day perfection window. Is referencing the chattel security agreement document enough or do I need to list every piece of equipment individually on the UCC-1? This is a $180k equipment package and I can't afford to mess up the lien priority.

Been there! The reference to your chattel security agreement should be sufficient but some states are picky about the description format. What state are you filing in? Also, make sure the security agreement date matches exactly what you put on the UCC-1.

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Filing in Texas. The dates match perfectly - March 15, 2025 on both documents. Just frustrated because this is my third attempt.

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Texas SOS can be finicky with equipment descriptions. Try adding 'and all proceeds thereof' to your collateral description. That usually helps.

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Dylan Fisher

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Your collateral description is probably fine - the issue might be elsewhere. Check that your debtor name exactly matches the business registration. Even small differences like 'Inc.' vs 'Incorporated' can cause rejections.

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Debtor name should be correct - I pulled it directly from the Secretary of State business search. It's 'Riverside Bistro LLC' on both the UCC and our articles of organization.

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Edwards Hugo

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Double-check the exact spelling and punctuation. Sometimes there are hidden characters or spaces that cause mismatches.

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Dylan Fisher

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Also verify the entity type matches. Some LLCs are registered as 'Limited Liability Company' instead of just 'LLC'.

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Gianna Scott

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I had a similar issue last month with equipment financing. Turns out I was using an outdated chattel security agreement template that didn't meet current UCC requirements. Had to redo everything. What does your rejection notice specifically say?

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Rejection just says 'insufficient collateral description' - not very helpful. The chattel security agreement was prepared by our business attorney so I assumed it was current.

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Gianna Scott

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Even good attorneys sometimes use old forms. I ended up using Certana.ai to cross-check my security agreement against the UCC-1. Just upload both PDFs and it instantly flags any inconsistencies or missing elements.

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Alfredo Lugo

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This is exactly why I hate the UCC system! Every state has different quirks and the rejection notices are useless. You'd think with all the filing fees they charge, they could give better guidance.

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Sydney Torres

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I feel your pain but the system works once you know the tricks. The key is being super specific about everything.

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Alfredo Lugo

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Easy for you to say - you probably haven't dealt with three rejections in a row while your lender breathes down your neck.

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Take a deep breath. We've all been there. The important thing is getting it right, not fast.

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Caleb Bell

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For restaurant equipment, I always include both the general description AND reference the security agreement. Something like: 'Commercial kitchen equipment including but not limited to ovens, refrigeration units, prep tables as more particularly described in Security Agreement dated March 15, 2025, and all proceeds thereof.

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That's much more detailed than what I had. I'll try that approach on the next filing.

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Caleb Bell

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The 'including but not limited to' language gives you coverage even if you missed something in the detailed list.

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Good advice. I learned the hard way that being too vague can void your security interest entirely.

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Rhett Bowman

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Wait, you said you're past the 20-day perfection window? That's concerning. You need to check if your security interest is still valid or if you need to start over with a new filing.

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The equipment was delivered March 18th, so I'm at day 22 now. The lender hasn't said anything about starting over but I'm worried.

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Rhett Bowman

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You might still be okay if you can show continuous good faith efforts to perfect. Keep all your rejection notices as proof.

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Abigail Patel

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In Texas, the 20-day rule is pretty strict but there are exceptions for administrative delays. Document everything.

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Daniel White

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Have you considered that the issue might be with your chattel security agreement itself rather than how you're describing it on the UCC-1? Sometimes the underlying document has problems that cause filing issues.

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That's a scary thought. How would I even check that? The attorney who drafted it charges $400/hour for reviews.

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Daniel White

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I've started using Certana.ai for document verification. You can upload your chattel security agreement and UCC-1 together and it checks for consistency issues, missing clauses, formatting problems - stuff that causes rejections.

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Nolan Carter

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That sounds useful. How accurate is it compared to having an attorney review?

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Daniel White

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Obviously not a replacement for legal advice, but it catches the technical stuff that causes most rejections. Saved me from two potential filing disasters.

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Natalia Stone

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Pro tip: call the Texas SOS UCC division directly. They're usually pretty helpful about explaining what specifically caused the rejection. Much better than trying to guess from the generic notices.

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I tried calling but got transferred around three times before giving up. Maybe I'll try again tomorrow morning.

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Natalia Stone

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Best time to call is right when they open at 8 AM. After 10 AM you're looking at long hold times.

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Tasia Synder

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Could be a simple formatting issue too. Some filing systems are picky about character limits, special characters, or how you format dates. Try keeping everything super clean - no fancy punctuation, standard date format.

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I did use MM/DD/YYYY format for the date. Should I spell it out instead?

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Tasia Synder

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Stick with MM/DD/YYYY - that's the Texas standard. But double-check that you don't have any extra spaces or hidden characters.

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Hidden characters are the worst! Copy-pasting from Word documents can introduce weird formatting that breaks electronic filing systems.

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Update us when you figure it out! I'm dealing with a similar situation with construction equipment and this thread is super helpful. Really hope you get it resolved before any lien priority issues.

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Will do! Planning to try the more detailed collateral description approach tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

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Good luck! The restaurant business is tough enough without UCC filing headaches.

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Ellie Perry

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Just thought of something - make sure your secured party information is also correct. I've seen filings rejected because the lender's legal name didn't match their business registration. Everything has to be perfect.

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The lender is First National Equipment Finance LLC - that's exactly how it appears on our loan documents. Should be right.

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Ellie Perry

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Sounds good. Sometimes banks file under their parent company names which can cause confusion.

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Landon Morgan

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Also verify their address matches what's on file with their state of incorporation. Small details matter.

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