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Ava Thompson

UCC-1 filing rejected - confused about goods under UCC classification

Filed a UCC-1 last week for a business loan secured by restaurant equipment and got it rejected by the SOS. The rejection notice says there's an issue with how I described goods under UCC in the collateral description. I listed 'restaurant equipment, kitchen appliances, and food service machinery' but apparently that's not specific enough? The loan officer at our bank said we need to be more precise about goods under UCC requirements but didn't give me much guidance. This is for a $180K equipment loan and I'm worried about missing the perfection window. Has anyone dealt with similar collateral description issues for goods under UCC filings?

Miguel Ramos

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Yeah, SOS offices are picky about collateral descriptions now. For goods under UCC, you generally need to be more specific than just 'equipment.' Try breaking it down by category - like 'commercial kitchen equipment including but not limited to ovens, fryers, refrigeration units, prep tables.' The key is being descriptive enough that someone could identify the collateral but not so specific that you miss something.

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This is exactly right. I learned this the hard way when my UCC-1 got rejected three times before I figured out the collateral description format they wanted.

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StarSailor

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Do you know if there's a difference between how different states handle goods under UCC descriptions? We file in multiple states and it seems like each one wants something slightly different.

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The rejection is probably because 'restaurant equipment' is too vague for goods under UCC purposes. You need to think about how a third party would identify your collateral if they saw the filing. I usually recommend using categories like 'food service equipment,' 'commercial cooking appliances,' 'refrigeration equipment' etc. Also make sure your debtor name matches exactly what's on file with the state - that's another common rejection reason.

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Ava Thompson

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The debtor name should be fine, we double-checked that against the Articles of Incorporation. It's definitely the collateral description causing the problem.

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Yara Sabbagh

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Actually had a similar issue last month. What helped me was uploading all my documents to Certana.ai's verification tool - it caught inconsistencies between my loan agreement and UCC-1 that I missed. The tool specifically flagged that my collateral description was too generic compared to what was in the security agreement.

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Wait, there's a tool that can check this stuff automatically? That would have saved me so much time on my last filing.

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Paolo Rizzo

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UGH the collateral description requirements are so frustrating!!! I swear every state wants something different for goods under UCC and they never tell you upfront what format they prefer. I've had filings rejected for being too specific AND too vague. Make sure you're not using serial numbers or model numbers though - that can actually make it too narrow.

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QuantumQuest

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Tell me about it. I spent weeks going back and forth with the SOS office trying to get the right description format. The worst part is they don't give you clear guidance on what they actually want to see.

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Amina Sy

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This is why I always recommend having multiple people review UCC filings before submission. Too many little details that can trip you up.

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For restaurant equipment as goods under UCC, I typically use something like: 'All restaurant and food service equipment, fixtures, and personal property now owned or hereafter acquired, including without limitation commercial cooking equipment, refrigeration equipment, food preparation equipment, dining furniture and fixtures.' This gives you broad coverage while being descriptive enough for the filing office.

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Ava Thompson

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That's really helpful, thank you! Should I also mention the location where the equipment is installed or does that go in a different section?

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Location goes in the collateral description if it's fixture-related, but for regular equipment it's not usually necessary unless it's specifically required by your security agreement.

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Be careful with 'hereafter acquired' language - make sure your security agreement actually covers after-acquired property or you could have priority issues later.

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I had this exact same problem with goods under UCC descriptions getting rejected. What worked for me was looking at other UCC filings in the same industry to see how they described similar collateral. Most SOS offices have searchable databases where you can see how other filers handled restaurant equipment descriptions.

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Emma Davis

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That's actually a really smart approach. Never thought to research other filings for examples.

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GalaxyGlider

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Just be careful not to copy language exactly - you want to make sure the description fits your specific situation and security agreement.

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Yara Sabbagh

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Since you mentioned being worried about the perfection window, you might want to try that Certana.ai document verification tool I mentioned earlier. It's specifically designed to catch these kinds of issues before you file. You just upload your security agreement and proposed UCC-1 and it flags inconsistencies. Would have caught this goods under UCC description issue upfront and saved you the rejection hassle.

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Ava Thompson

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Is it expensive? We're already tight on budget with this loan closing.

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Yara Sabbagh

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It's way cheaper than having to refile multiple times or dealing with perfection issues later. Plus it's pretty quick - usually gives you results within minutes of uploading your docs.

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I'm skeptical of these automated tools but honestly after my third UCC rejection I'd try anything. Manual document review is such a pain.

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Here's what I learned about goods under UCC after several rejected filings: the description needs to be broad enough to cover your collateral but specific enough that someone reading the filing can understand what type of property is secured. For restaurant equipment, avoid terms like 'equipment' alone and use industry-specific language like 'commercial food service equipment' or 'restaurant kitchen appliances.

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StarSailor

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Do you know if there are any UCC Article 9 resources that give examples of proper collateral descriptions for different industries?

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The UCC filing guides usually have some examples, but they're pretty generic. Industry-specific examples are harder to find which is why researching actual filings can be helpful.

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QuantumQuest

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The timing pressure makes this so stressful. When you refile after a rejection, does the effective date go back to your original filing date or does it start fresh? I've always been confused about this with goods under UCC perfection timing.

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Miguel Ramos

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If you refile within a reasonable time after rejection and the rejection was for a minor error, most states will relate back to the original filing date. But check your state's specific rules because this varies.

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Ava Thompson

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This is exactly what I'm worried about. Don't want to lose priority because of a description technicality.

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Generally you're okay if you refile promptly after a rejection for a technical error like collateral description formatting. The key is fixing it quickly and not letting it sit.

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I still can't believe how picky they are about these descriptions. Like, if it's obviously restaurant equipment, why does the exact wording matter so much for goods under UCC? Seems like they're just trying to generate rejection fees.

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Paolo Rizzo

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RIGHT?! It's like they want you to fail so they can collect multiple filing fees. So frustrating.

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The specificity requirements actually serve a purpose - they help third parties understand what collateral is encumbered when they're doing due diligence. But I agree the enforcement can be inconsistent.

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Amina Sy

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For what it's worth, I've found that including 'and all proceeds thereof' at the end of goods under UCC descriptions can be helpful for comprehensive coverage. Just make sure your security agreement supports that broad language.

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Ava Thompson

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Good point about checking the security agreement language. I'll make sure whatever description I use matches what's in the loan documents.

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Proceeds language is important but make sure you understand the implications - it can affect how you handle insurance claims and equipment sales later.

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Emma Davis

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This thread has been super helpful. I'm dealing with similar issues on an equipment financing deal and didn't realize how specific the goods under UCC descriptions needed to be.

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