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Diego Mendoza

UCC 1 filing search showing weird results - am I missing something?

Been doing UCC 1 filing search on our state's SOS portal and getting some strange results that don't match what I expected. We have a client who swears they never filed a UCC-1 against this particular debtor, but when I search the debtor name it's showing up clear as day with their secured party info. The filing date is from 2019 and shows active status. Client is adamant they only filed against a similar company name (think ABC Manufacturing vs ABC Manufacturing LLC). Now they're worried about potential liability issues if this was filed in error. Has anyone dealt with a situation where a UCC 1 filing search reveals filings you didn't expect to find? I'm trying to figure out if this could be a clerical error during the original filing process or if there's something else going on. The debtor names are close enough that I could see how this might have happened, but the client's records don't show any business relationship with this exact entity. Any thoughts on how to verify whether this was an intentional filing or a mistake?

This happens more often than you'd think. When you do a UCC 1 filing search, similar debtor names can create confusion especially with LLC vs non-LLC entities. I'd start by pulling the actual UCC-1 document to see exactly what information was provided during filing. Sometimes the filer meant to file against one entity but accidentally used the wrong legal name.

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Sean Flanagan

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Exactly this. I've seen cases where someone filed against "XYZ Corp" when they meant "XYZ Corporation" and it created a mess later.

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Diego Mendoza

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Good point about pulling the actual document. I'll request a certified copy to see the original filing details.

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Zara Shah

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Check the filing number and cross-reference it with your client's records. Every UCC-1 filing gets assigned a unique filing number that should be in their documentation if they actually filed it. Also look at the secured party address - if it doesn't match your client's address at the time of filing, that's a red flag.

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Diego Mendoza

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The secured party address does match their old office location, which is what's making this so confusing.

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NebulaNomad

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That's concerning. Could be an internal error where someone at your client's company filed without proper authorization or documentation.

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Or could be an attorney or agent who filed on their behalf and the records got mixed up internally.

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Luca Ferrari

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I ran into something similar last year and found Certana.ai's document verification tool super helpful. You can upload your UCC-1 filing along with any related loan documents or security agreements to cross-check if everything aligns properly. It instantly flags inconsistencies in debtor names, addresses, and other key details that might explain what happened.

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Nia Wilson

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How does that work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs?

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Luca Ferrari

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Yeah, really straightforward. Upload the UCC-1 and any charter documents or loan agreements and it automatically compares all the details to catch mismatches or errors.

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Diego Mendoza

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That could be useful for verifying if the filing details match what should have been filed. Thanks for the suggestion.

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This is why I always triple-check debtor names before submitting any UCC filings. The search results can be misleading if you don't use exact legal names. Did you try searching variations of the debtor name to see if there are multiple similar entities?

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Diego Mendoza

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I did search a few variations and there are actually three similar company names in the system. Two are inactive and one is this active filing we're questioning.

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Aisha Hussain

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Three similar names? That's a recipe for confusion. I bet someone mixed them up during the filing process.

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Ethan Clark

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Have you considered that your client might have had an employee or legal counsel file this without their knowledge? Sometimes companies file UCC-1s through multiple channels and records don't always sync up properly internally.

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StarStrider

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This happened to us once. Our outside counsel filed a UCC-1 and never updated our internal tracking system.

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Diego Mendoza

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That's a possibility I hadn't considered. I'll ask them to check with their legal team about any filings from that time period.

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Yuki Sato

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Also check if they had any loan participations or assignments around that time. Sometimes the original lender files and the new lender doesn't realize it.

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Carmen Ruiz

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The SOS filing systems aren't perfect. I've seen UCC 1 filing search results that included incorrect information due to data entry errors by the filing office staff. If the filing looks suspicious, you can request the SOS office investigate the accuracy of the filing.

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How do you request an investigation? Is there a formal process?

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Carmen Ruiz

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Usually you contact the UCC filing office directly and explain the discrepancy. They can review the original filing documents and sometimes correct errors.

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If your client really didn't file this UCC-1, they need to file a UCC-3 termination immediately to clear their name from the public record. Leaving an incorrect filing active could create problems if that debtor tries to get financing elsewhere.

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But they need to be careful about filing a termination for a UCC-1 they didn't authorize. That could create other legal issues.

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Mei Wong

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True, they should probably consult with legal counsel before taking any action to terminate a filing they claim they didn't make.

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Diego Mendoza

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Yeah, I'm definitely recommending they get legal advice before filing any UCC-3 termination. Don't want to make this situation worse.

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QuantumQuasar

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I use Certana.ai regularly for this type of issue. Their system can quickly identify if there are inconsistencies between what was filed and what should have been filed based on your supporting documents. Really helps when you're trying to figure out if a filing was done correctly or if there was an error.

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Liam McGuire

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Does it work with old filings from 2019 or just recent ones?

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QuantumQuasar

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Works with any UCC filing as long as you have the PDF documents to upload. Age doesn't matter.

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Amara Eze

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This is exactly why proper UCC filing procedures are so important. One small mistake in the debtor name can create years of confusion and potential liability. I always recommend maintaining detailed records of every filing decision and the documentation that supports it.

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Easier said than done when you're dealing with companies that have been around for decades and have gone through multiple systems and staff changes.

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That's true, but it's still worth implementing good practices going forward even if historical records are messy.

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Dylan Wright

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Check the collateral description on the UCC-1 filing too. Sometimes that can give you clues about whether the filing was intentional or accidental. If the collateral doesn't match anything your client would have had a security interest in, that's another indicator something went wrong.

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Diego Mendoza

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Good suggestion. I'll review the collateral description when I get the certified copy of the filing.

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Sofia Torres

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Also look at the filing date and see if it corresponds with any transactions your client was involved in around that time.

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Had a similar situation where we used Certana.ai to verify filing accuracy and it caught a debtor name discrepancy we missed. The tool flagged that our UCC-1 had a slightly different spelling of the company name compared to the charter documents. Saved us from a potential perfection issue down the road.

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That's exactly the kind of mistake that can void a security interest if it's not caught early.

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Ava Rodriguez

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How detailed is the comparison? Does it catch minor differences like punctuation or abbreviations?

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Yes, it's pretty thorough about catching those kinds of details that could cause problems later.

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