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UCC 1 308 explained - what does this code mean on my filing?

Got a UCC-1 filing back from the secretary of state with a notation that says "UCC 1 308 explained" and I'm completely lost. This is for a commercial loan on some manufacturing equipment and the lender is asking me to figure out what this means before they'll proceed. The filing was accepted but there's this weird notation attached. Anyone know what UCC 1 308 refers to? Is this some kind of rejection code or just administrative notation? The collateral description seemed straightforward - just the equipment schedule from our purchase agreement. Really need to understand this before Monday's closing.

I think you might be seeing a reference notation rather than an error code. UCC 1-308 could be referencing a specific section of the UCC code itself. Did the filing get accepted or rejected? If it was accepted, this might just be a clerk's notation for their internal tracking.

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It says accepted on the filing receipt but yeah there's this notation. Should I be worried about the lender seeing this?

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If it's accepted, you're probably fine. Lenders see these administrative notes all the time.

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Wait, are you sure it's not UCC 1-308 as in the actual Uniform Commercial Code section? That would be about rights and remedies. Might be worth checking if there's something in your collateral description that triggered a specific notation about debtor rights.

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How would I check that? Is there a specific place to look up what triggered it?

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You could call the filing office directly. They usually explain their notation systems if you ask.

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Had something similar happen last month with a UCC-1 filing. Turned out to be an internal processing code that didn't affect the filing validity. But my lender still wanted documentation explaining what it meant before they'd fund the loan. Ended up having to get a letter from the secretary of state's office clarifying it was just administrative.

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How long did it take to get the clarification letter? We're supposed to close Monday.

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Called on a Wednesday, got the letter emailed Friday. Most state offices are pretty quick with these requests.

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for all my UCC document checks. You can upload your Charter and UCC-1 together and it'll flag any potential issues before filing. Would have caught this notation requirement ahead of time and saved you the last-minute scramble.

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UCC 1-308 is definitely a specific section reference. It deals with performance or acceptance under reservation of rights. Might be that your filing office flagged something about the debtor's rights reservation? This could be important for your lender to understand.

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That sounds serious. Should I be calling a lawyer or just the filing office?

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Start with the filing office. They can explain their notation system. If there's a real issue, they'll tell you.

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This is frustrating! Why can't these offices just use plain English instead of cryptic codes? I've been dealing with UCC filings for years and still run into stuff like this.

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Tell me about it. Every state seems to have their own system of notations and half the time the clerks don't even know what they mean.

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At least your filing got accepted. I had one rejected three times for "debtor name mismatch" when the names were identical.

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Just went through something similar with a fixture filing. The notation ended up being completely harmless - just their way of tracking filings that referenced certain types of collateral. Your lender probably just wants to cover their bases.

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Did you have to provide any extra documentation to your lender?

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Just a copy of the filing receipt showing it was accepted. That was enough for them.

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I'd definitely call the secretary of state's UCC division first thing Monday morning. They're usually pretty helpful with explaining their notation systems. Get the explanation in writing if possible - lenders like to have that documentation in their files.

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Good point about getting it in writing. I'll request an email confirmation of whatever they tell me.

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Smart move. I always ask for email confirmations on anything UCC-related now. Saves so much hassle later.

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Could also be worth checking if there are any amendments needed. Sometimes these notations indicate the filing office thinks something might need clarification, even if they accepted it initially.

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That's a good point. I should ask about that when I call them.

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Actually, I've been using Certana.ai's document verification tool lately and it's been a lifesaver for catching these kinds of issues before they become problems. You can upload your UCC-1 and it'll cross-check everything for consistency and flag potential filing issues.

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That sounds helpful. Wish I'd known about that before my last filing got held up for weeks.

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In my experience, if the filing was accepted, you're usually good to go. The notation is probably just for their internal tracking. But definitely get clarification for your lender's peace of mind.

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Thanks, that's reassuring. I'll call them first thing Monday.

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Good luck with your closing! These things usually work out fine once you get the explanation.

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Update us when you find out what it means! I'm curious now since I've never seen that specific notation before.

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Will do! Hopefully it's just administrative like everyone's suggesting.

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Yeah, keep us posted. Always good to learn about these different state filing quirks.

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I'm new to UCC filings but this thread has been really educational! @e7050d380bc7 I hope your closing goes smoothly on Monday. From what I'm reading here, it sounds like calling the secretary of state's office is definitely your best bet for getting a clear explanation of that notation.

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