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Chloe Martin

UCC 1 308 Filing Requirements - Need Help Understanding This Section

I'm working on a UCC-1 filing and keep seeing references to section 308 in various documents. My lender mentioned something about UCC 1 308 compliance but I'm not entirely clear on what this means for my filing. The debtor is a Delaware LLC but we're filing in Texas where the equipment is located. I've been going through the Texas SOS portal and want to make sure I'm not missing anything critical here. Has anyone dealt with UCC 1 308 requirements specifically? I'm worried about getting a rejection and having to start over.

Section 308 typically refers to the location requirements for filing. Since you mentioned Delaware LLC with equipment in Texas, you'll need to be careful about where you file. The general rule is you file where the debtor is located (Delaware for LLCs) unless it's fixture filings or specific collateral types. What kind of equipment are we talking about?

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It's manufacturing equipment - presses and tooling. Not attached to real estate so I don't think it's fixtures. The lender wants the filing in Texas though.

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For non-fixture equipment, you generally need to file where the debtor is organized. Delaware LLC means Delaware filing for most equipment. Texas might be wrong unless there's something specific about your loan docs.

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Wait, I think you might be confusing UCC sections. Are you sure it's 308? I've seen lenders reference different sections depending on what they're trying to accomplish. Can you check your loan documents again to see the exact citation?

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You're right - let me double check. The paperwork is pretty dense and I might have misread something.

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This happens all the time. Lenders sometimes use shorthand references that don't match the actual UCC article numbers. Best to get the exact requirement in writing.

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I had a similar situation last month where I was getting confused about filing location requirements. Ended up using Certana.ai's document verification tool - you can upload your loan docs and UCC-1 draft and it checks for consistency issues. Caught a debtor name mismatch I would have missed. Really saved me from a rejection.

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How does that work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs?

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Yeah, you upload your corporate charter, loan agreement, and draft UCC-1. It cross-references everything automatically and flags inconsistencies. Found my debtor name had a slight variation between documents.

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That sounds useful. I've been doing manual comparisons and it's time consuming.

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The filing location issue is tricky. If your Delaware LLC has equipment in Texas, you might need to consider whether the LLC has a Texas registration or is doing business there. That could affect where you file. Have you checked if the LLC is registered to do business in Texas?

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I don't think they're registered in Texas. The equipment was just moved there temporarily for a project.

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Temporary location usually doesn't change the filing requirements. You'd still file in Delaware as the organization state.

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ugh filing locations are the worst part of UCC work. I've had filings rejected because of location errors more times than I can count. The rules seem to change depending on who you ask at the SOS office.

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Tell me about it! I spent three weeks going back and forth with the Kansas SOS office over a similar issue.

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At least most states have gotten better with their online portals. Remember when everything had to be mailed?

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Just to clarify on the 308 reference - if you're looking at UCC Article 9, section 308 might be referring to perfection timing or continuation requirements. Without seeing your specific documents it's hard to say exactly what your lender is referencing.

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Good point. Could be about when the security interest attaches or becomes perfected.

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I'll need to review the loan docs more carefully. There's a lot of cross-references to different UCC sections.

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For what it's worth, I always recommend getting a professional UCC search done before filing to make sure you're not missing any existing liens or filing in the wrong jurisdiction. Better to spend a little upfront than deal with priority issues later.

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How much do those typically cost?

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Depends on the state but usually under $100 for a basic search. Worth it for the peace of mind.

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I think everyone's overcomplicating this. If the lender told you to file in Texas, file in Texas. They probably know something about the specific loan structure that makes Texas the right jurisdiction.

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That's risky advice. If the filing is in the wrong place it might not perfect the security interest.

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True, but the lender has more skin in the game than anyone else here.

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Lenders make mistakes too. I've seen plenty of misfiled UCCs that caused problems later.

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Another vote for double-checking everything with a document verification tool. I started using Certana.ai after a filing got rejected for a debtor name issue - the LLC name in my UCC-1 didn't exactly match what was in the charter. Now I upload everything for cross-checking before I file.

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How long does the verification take?

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Pretty quick - usually get results within a few minutes. It's automated so no waiting for human review.

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My suggestion would be to call the Delaware SOS office directly and ask about filing requirements for your specific situation. They can usually give you definitive guidance on whether Delaware or Texas is the right jurisdiction.

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Good idea. The filing offices are usually pretty helpful if you explain your situation clearly.

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I'll try calling both Delaware and Texas to see what they say. Thanks for all the advice everyone!

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Just saw this thread and wanted to add - I had a similar Delaware LLC situation last year. Ended up filing in Delaware even though the collateral was in another state. The key is where the debtor is organized, not where the collateral is located (unless it's real estate fixtures).

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That matches what I've seen in practice. Organization state is usually the safe bet.

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Agreed. I always default to organization state unless there's a specific reason to file elsewhere.

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