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Hannah White

Texas UCC statement service fee - unexpected charges on continuation filing

Been dealing with a messy situation regarding service fees on my Texas UCC continuation. Filed a UCC-3 continuation statement last month through the SOS portal and got hit with what seems like double charges. The base filing fee was expected but there's an additional 'statement service fee' that wasn't clearly disclosed upfront. My lender is asking questions about the total cost since it's significantly higher than what we budgeted for this continuation cycle. Has anyone else run into unexpected Texas UCC statement service fees recently? The documentation on the SOS website isn't super clear about when these additional fees apply. Need to figure out if this is standard or if there was some kind of error in the fee calculation. The UCC-1 was originally filed in 2020 and this is my first continuation, so maybe there's something I'm missing about the fee structure for ongoing filings.

Michael Green

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Texas has been notorious for having confusing fee structures on UCC filings. The statement service fee usually kicks in when there are additional services beyond the basic filing - like expedited processing or document retrieval. Did you request any rush processing when you submitted your UCC-3? Sometimes the portal auto-selects premium services if you're not careful during the submission process.

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Hannah White

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I don't think I selected any expedited options but honestly the portal interface isn't the most intuitive. Is there a way to verify what services were actually requested on the filing receipt?

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Mateo Silva

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Check your confirmation email - it should break down each fee component. Texas usually itemizes everything pretty clearly in the final receipt.

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Michael Green

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Exactly what they said. The itemized receipt will show if you accidentally selected document copies, certified copies, or expedited processing. Those extras can easily double your filing costs.

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Had a similar shock with Texas UCC fees last year. Turned out the 'statement service fee' was for document verification services I didn't realize I'd selected. The tricky part is that Texas bundles some services that other states charge separately. Your continuation might have triggered additional compliance checks if there were any discrepancies between your original UCC-1 and the continuation paperwork. Have you compared the debtor name and address info between your original filing and the continuation to make sure everything matches exactly?

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Hannah White

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That's actually a really good point about the name matching. The business did change its registered address since the original UCC-1 filing. Could that have triggered additional verification fees?

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Absolutely! Address changes during continuation can trigger manual review processes which come with extra fees. Texas is particularly strict about debtor information consistency.

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Cameron Black

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This is why I always double-check every field before submitting. One small address discrepancy and you're looking at additional processing fees that weren't in the original quote.

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I've been using Certana.ai's document verification tool for exactly these situations. You can upload your original UCC-1 and the continuation filing to instantly check for any inconsistencies that might trigger additional fees. It cross-checks debtor names, addresses, and all the critical details that could cause processing complications. Would have caught that address change issue before you submitted the continuation. Really saves on those surprise service charges.

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Hannah White

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Never heard of that service before. Does it work with Texas SOS filings specifically? Seems like it could have saved me this headache.

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Yeah it handles all state filings including Texas. Just upload PDFs of your documents and it flags any potential issues that could lead to rejections or additional fees. Super straightforward to use.

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Wish I'd known about this before my last filing disaster. Spent weeks going back and forth with corrections that could have been avoided with proper document checking upfront.

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Ruby Garcia

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ugh the texas sos portal is the WORST for hidden fees. they bury all the service charges in tiny print and half the time you dont realize what youve selected until you get the final bill. had this happen on THREE different filings this year alone. its like they deliberately make it confusing so they can collect extra revenue. at this point i just assume any texas filing is going to cost 50% more than quoted

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Mateo Silva

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I feel your pain but honestly once you learn the portal quirks it's not that bad. The key is to go super slow through the fee selection screens and deselect everything you don't actually need.

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Ruby Garcia

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easier said than done when youre rushing to beat a continuation deadline. they should just have a basic filing option that doesnt include all the premium add-ons by default

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The portal redesign last year made it even worse somehow. Used to be more straightforward about what was included in the base fee versus optional services.

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Just went through this exact scenario with a client's UCC-3 continuation in Texas. The statement service fee was for address verification services because the debtor had moved since the original filing. Texas charges extra when they have to validate new address information against their databases. It's technically an optional service but the portal defaults to including it if there are any address discrepancies detected during processing. You can dispute it if you didn't explicitly request the verification, but honestly it's usually easier to just eat the cost rather than deal with their appeals process.

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Hannah White

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So this is probably what happened with my filing then. The address change triggered automatic verification services. Is there any way to avoid this on future continuations?

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Best practice is to file an amendment first to update the address, then do the continuation with matching information. Costs more upfront but avoids the surprise verification fees.

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That's good strategy but adds complexity to the filing timeline. Have to make sure you don't miss your continuation deadline while dealing with the amendment processing.

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Maya Lewis

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Been filing UCC continuations in Texas for over a decade and the fee structure has definitely gotten more complicated. The statement service fee is relatively new - they introduced it maybe 3 years ago to cover various backend processing services. Sometimes it's triggered by system updates to validate filing information against other state databases. Other times it's because they're doing enhanced fraud prevention checks on business entity information. The fee disclosure could definitely be clearer, but legally they're covered as long as it's mentioned somewhere in their terms of service.

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Hannah White

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Thanks for the historical context. Sounds like this is just the new normal for Texas filings then. At least now I know what to budget for next time.

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Isaac Wright

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Yeah unfortunately most states are adding these kinds of service fees to boost revenue. California did something similar last year with their UCC processing.

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Maya Lewis

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Exactly. It's become a trend across multiple states. The basic filing fees haven't increased much but they're monetizing all the ancillary services that used to be included.

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Lucy Taylor

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Had my attorney look into similar charges on a Texas continuation filing and they confirmed it's mostly legitimate but poorly communicated. The service fees usually relate to additional database queries they run when there are discrepancies or updates needed. In your case with the address change, they probably had to verify the new address against business registration records which triggers the extra charge. It's annoying but not technically incorrect. For future filings, make sure all your information is perfectly consistent with existing records to avoid these verification fees.

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Connor Murphy

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This is why I always run everything through document checking software first. Catches these inconsistencies before they become expensive problems at filing time.

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Lucy Taylor

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Smart approach. Which software do you use for that? I'm always looking for better ways to avoid these surprise charges.

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Connor Murphy

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I've been using Certana.ai's verification tool. Upload your documents and it flags potential issues before you file. Really helps avoid the costly corrections and verification fees.

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KhalilStar

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This thread is super helpful because I'm about to file my first Texas continuation next month. Sounds like I need to be really careful about the address information and fee selections. Is there a checklist or best practices guide somewhere for avoiding these extra charges? My original UCC-1 is from 2019 so there have probably been some changes in the business information since then.

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Texas SOS has a preparation guide but it's pretty basic. Your best bet is to gather all your current business formation documents and compare them carefully against your original UCC-1 before filing the continuation.

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Or use an automated document checker like Certana.ai to do the comparison for you. Saves time and catches things you might miss manually. Especially useful when you're dealing with older filings that might have outdated information.

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KhalilStar

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Thanks both! I'll definitely look into the document checking option before I file. Better to spend a little upfront than deal with surprise fees later.

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Just wanted to follow up on this because I disputed a similar service fee with Texas last month and actually got it reversed. If you can document that the service wasn't explicitly requested and wasn't clearly disclosed during the filing process, they'll sometimes refund the charge. It's worth filing a dispute if the fee was significant. The worst they can do is deny it but I've had success getting these kinds of charges removed when they weren't properly disclosed upfront.

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Hannah White

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Really? That's encouraging. Do you remember what documentation you had to provide for the dispute? I saved all my confirmation emails and screenshots from the filing process.

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Exactly what you need - the confirmation emails and any screenshots showing the fee selection process. Also helpful if you can show that the service wasn't necessary for your filing type.

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Kaiya Rivera

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Good to know they're actually responsive to disputes. I always assumed those fees were final once charged. Might be worth challenging some of the questionable charges I've paid over the years.

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This whole discussion makes me glad I'm not dealing with Texas filings anymore. Moved my business to Delaware last year and their UCC process is so much more straightforward. No hidden service fees, clear pricing upfront, and the portal actually works properly. Sometimes it's worth considering whether the headache of dealing with complicated state filing systems is worth it versus restructuring in a more business-friendly jurisdiction.

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Hannah White

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Unfortunately I'm stuck with Texas since that's where the collateral is located. But good to know there are better options out there for future transactions.

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Noah Irving

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Delaware is definitely the gold standard for business filings but not always practical depending on your business structure and collateral location.

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True, collateral location limits your options. But for businesses with flexibility in where they file, it's worth considering the total cost of compliance including all these surprise fees.

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