PPSA security agreement UCC filing requirements - am I missing something?
Been wrestling with this for weeks now and getting nowhere fast. We've got a PPSA security agreement from a Canadian lender that needs to be perfected here in the US through UCC filings. The debtor has assets in both jurisdictions and I'm trying to figure out if there are specific requirements or modifications needed when the underlying security agreement is governed by PPSA rather than Article 9. The collateral description in the PPSA security agreement uses some terminology that doesn't map perfectly to UCC-1 collateral categories. For instance, they reference "consumer goods" but define it slightly differently than our UCC Article 9 definition. The debtor name formatting is also different - they use the full corporate name plus jurisdiction of incorporation in a format that might not match exactly with our SOS records. Anyone dealt with cross-border situations like this? Do I need to adapt the collateral description to fit standard UCC categories, or can I reference the PPSA security agreement directly? Also concerned about whether the debtor name from the Canadian corporate registry will match what's in our state's business entity database. This is for a $2.3M equipment financing deal and I really can't afford to have the UCC-1 rejected due to name mismatches or collateral description issues. The lender is breathing down my neck to get this perfected ASAP.
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GalaxyGuardian
I've handled a few cross-border deals with PPSA security agreements and you're right to be cautious about the terminology differences. The key thing is that your UCC-1 needs to comply with Article 9 requirements regardless of what the underlying security agreement says. You can't just copy the PPSA language verbatim. For the collateral description, translate it into standard UCC categories. If the PPSA calls it "consumer goods" but it's actually equipment under Article 9, use "equipment" on your UCC-1. The UCC filing is what matters for perfection in the US, not the exact wording from the Canadian agreement. Debtor name is trickier - you need to use whatever name appears in your state's business entity records, not the Canadian format. Run a search on your SOS database first to see exactly how the entity is listed.
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Paolo Ricci
•This is spot on advice. I made the mistake once of using the exact PPSA collateral language on a UCC-1 and it got rejected because the description was too specific and didn't fit standard categories. Learned that lesson the hard way!
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Amina Toure
•Question about the debtor name though - what if the entity is registered differently in the US than in Canada? Do you use the US registration even if it's technically a Canadian corporation?
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GalaxyGuardian
•Good question. If it's a Canadian corp doing business in the US, you'd typically use the name as it appears on the foreign entity registration in your state. If they're not registered to do business in your state yet, that's a whole other issue you need to address first.
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Oliver Zimmermann
Had a similar situation last month actually. The PPSA vs UCC terminology differences are a real pain. What I ended up doing was creating a mapping document that showed how each PPSA collateral category translated to UCC categories. Saved me a lot of headaches. For the debtor name issue, definitely check your state's foreign entity registrations. A lot of Canadian companies have to register as foreign entities to do business in US states, and that registration will give you the exact name format to use on your UCC-1. One thing that helped me was using a document verification tool - I uploaded both the PPSA agreement and my draft UCC-1 to make sure everything aligned properly. There's this service called Certana.ai that does automated cross-checking between documents. It caught a couple discrepancies I would have missed, including a slight variation in the debtor name formatting.
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Keisha Robinson
•That's really helpful about the mapping document idea. Did you have to get the lender to approve the collateral description changes, or were they okay with you translating it for UCC purposes?
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Oliver Zimmermann
•The lender was fine with it once I explained that we needed to comply with local UCC requirements. I just made sure to note in my memo that the UCC collateral description was adapted from the PPSA agreement for perfection purposes but didn't change the actual security interest.
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Natasha Volkova
•Certana.ai sounds interesting - how does that verification process work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs and it compares them?
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Yeah exactly - you upload the security agreement and your UCC draft, and it flags any inconsistencies in debtor names, collateral descriptions, that kind of thing. Really streamlined the review process for me.
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Javier Torres
Oh man, cross-border filings are the worst. I'm dealing with something similar right now but with a Mexican security agreement. The terminology is completely different and I'm constantly second-guessing myself. One question - are you filing in multiple states or just one? If the debtor has assets in multiple US states you might need to file UCC-1s in each state, and each state might have slightly different requirements for foreign entity names.
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Keisha Robinson
•Just one state for now, but the debtor does have assets in two other states. I was planning to tackle those filings once I get the first one sorted out. Are the requirements really that different state to state?
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Javier Torres
•They can be, especially for foreign entities. Some states are pickier about exact name formatting than others. Delaware is usually pretty flexible, but some other states are real sticklers about punctuation and abbreviations.
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Emma Davis
•This is why I always do a test search in each state's UCC database before filing. You can see exactly how other similar entity names are formatted in their system.
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CosmicCaptain
Ugh, been there. The worst part is when you think you've got everything right and then the filing gets rejected for some tiny formatting issue. Last time this happened to me I wasted two weeks going back and forth with corrections. Have you considered reaching out to the filing office directly? Sometimes they can give you guidance on the debtor name format before you submit.
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Keisha Robinson
•I thought about calling them but wasn't sure if they'd give specific advice on individual filings. Worth a try though - this deal really can't afford delays.
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CosmicCaptain
•Most filing offices will at least confirm whether a debtor name format looks right in their system. They won't give legal advice but they can tell you if the name matches their records.
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Malik Johnson
The collateral description issue is definitely something to watch out for. PPSA uses some broader categories that don't translate directly to UCC Article 9. I usually err on the side of being more specific rather than less when adapting the description. For equipment, I'll typically list the specific types rather than just saying "equipment" generally. For inventory, I might break it down by product categories if that's how it's described in the PPSA agreement. The key is making sure your UCC description covers everything that's in the original security agreement, even if you have to use different terminology.
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Keisha Robinson
•That makes sense. The PPSA agreement has a pretty detailed equipment schedule, so I could probably use that as a basis for the UCC collateral description. Better to be too specific than too vague, right?
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Malik Johnson
•Exactly. You can always be more specific, but if you're too vague and miss something, that could create gaps in your perfection.
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Isabella Ferreira
•Just be careful not to make it so specific that it becomes a "super-generic" description that's too broad. There's a balance to strike.
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Ravi Sharma
I hate these international deals. Everything takes twice as long and there's always some weird quirk you didn't expect. Last one I did had a security agreement governed by UK law and the collateral categories were completely different from what we use here. At least with PPSA you're dealing with a system that's somewhat similar to our UCC. Could be worse - could be dealing with civil law concepts that don't translate at all.
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Freya Thomsen
•Ha, yes! I did a deal once with a French security agreement and spent hours trying to figure out how to translate "gage" into UCC terminology. What a nightmare.
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Ravi Sharma
•Oh god, French commercial law. I would have just told the client to find local counsel for that one!
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Omar Zaki
For what it's worth, I've found that most Canadian lenders are pretty understanding about these UCC adaptation issues since they deal with cross-border transactions regularly. They usually just want to make sure the security interest is properly perfected on the US side. Just document your reasoning for any changes you make to the collateral description or other terms. That way if there are any questions later, you can show that the changes were necessary for UCC compliance and didn't alter the substance of the security interest.
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Keisha Robinson
•Good point about documenting the changes. I'll make sure to create a memo explaining the adaptations I made and why they were necessary.
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Omar Zaki
•Exactly. Cover your bases with good documentation. Lenders appreciate transparency about these kinds of technical issues.
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AstroAce
One more thing to consider - make sure you're filing in the right jurisdiction for the debtor. If it's a Canadian corporation, you'll typically file where they're registered to do business in the US, not their Canadian jurisdiction. But if they haven't registered as a foreign entity yet, you might need to get that sorted out first before you can file the UCC-1. Some states won't accept UCC filings for entities that aren't properly registered to do business there.
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Keisha Robinson
•Oh wow, I hadn't thought about that. I need to check whether they're registered as a foreign entity in our state. That could be a whole other delay if they're not.
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AstroAce
•Yeah, definitely check that first. It's a common issue with international deals. The good news is foreign entity registration is usually pretty straightforward, just takes some time.
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Chloe Martin
•This happened to me once - had to delay a closing by two weeks while the debtor got their foreign entity registration sorted out. Not fun explaining that to an impatient lender.
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Diego Rojas
I actually just went through something very similar with a PPSA security agreement last quarter. What ended up working for me was creating a side-by-side comparison of the PPSA terms and the equivalent UCC language. I used one of those document checking services - Certana.ai I think it was called - that let me upload both documents and it highlighted all the inconsistencies. Made it much easier to spot the issues before filing rather than getting rejections later. The debtor name thing was tricky too. Turned out the Canadian corp had registered in our state but under a slightly different name format. Would have missed that without doing a thorough entity search.
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Keisha Robinson
•That document comparison approach sounds really useful. Did Certana.ai help with more than just name matching, or was it mainly for catching formatting issues?
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Diego Rojas
•It caught several things - debtor name variations, collateral description mismatches, even some inconsistencies in the security agreement itself that I hadn't noticed. Definitely worth the peace of mind for a deal this size.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•How does that work exactly? Do you upload PDFs and it does automatic comparison?
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Diego Rojas
•Yes, exactly that. Upload your security agreement and UCC draft, and it flags potential issues. Much faster than trying to do the comparison manually.
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Sean O'Donnell
Cross-border security agreements are always a pain but you're on the right track being careful about the terminology. I've seen too many filings get rejected because someone just copied and pasted from a foreign security agreement without adapting it properly. The $2.3M size definitely justifies being extra cautious. For deals that size, I always recommend getting a second set of eyes on the UCC filing before submitting. Whether that's another lawyer, a paralegal who specializes in UCC filings, or one of those automated checking tools, it's worth the extra step.
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Keisha Robinson
•You're absolutely right about getting another review. I've been staring at these documents for so long I'm probably missing obvious issues at this point.
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Sean O'Donnell
•Fresh eyes always help. And with international deals there are usually quirks that aren't immediately obvious to someone who hasn't dealt with that specific jurisdiction before.
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Vanessa Chang
I've been lurking in this community for a while but this post hit close to home - just joined because I'm dealing with almost the exact same situation! Canadian PPSA security agreement, US UCC filing requirements, and a very impatient lender. Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful. The advice about creating a mapping document between PPSA and UCC terminology is spot on. I'm definitely going to check out that Certana.ai tool that several people mentioned - sounds like it could save me a lot of headaches. One question for the group: has anyone dealt with situations where the PPSA security agreement covers both personal property and real estate? I'm trying to figure out if I need separate UCC and mortgage filings, or if there's a way to handle everything through the UCC system. Thanks for all the great insights everyone!
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ApolloJackson
•Welcome to the community! Great question about mixed collateral. You'll definitely need separate filings - UCC-1 for the personal property and mortgage/deed of trust for real estate. The UCC system doesn't handle real property security interests. Make sure to coordinate the timing so both get recorded properly, and watch out for any cross-default provisions between the two security interests. Some lenders want them filed simultaneously to avoid gaps in coverage.
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