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Carmen Ortiz

North Carolina secretary of state UCC search showing wrong debtor name - filing rejected twice

Running into a nightmare with NC SOS UCC search functionality. Filed a UCC-1 for equipment financing last month and it got rejected for "debtor name mismatch" even though I triple-checked everything. Tried to search the existing filings to see what's already on record and the north carolina secretary of state ucc search portal keeps showing different variations of our debtor's business name. Some show "ABC Manufacturing LLC" others show "ABC Manufacturing, LLC" with the comma. Now my second filing attempt just got bounced back again. The loan closes Friday and I'm scrambling to figure out which exact name format NC wants. Anyone dealt with this specific issue in North Carolina? The debtor's charter shows one thing but apparently there are other active UCCs with slight variations. This is a $450K equipment loan and I can't afford to mess this up again.

MidnightRider

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NC is notorious for being picky about exact name matches. When you did the north carolina secretary of state ucc search, did you try searching for just "ABC Manufacturing" without any entity designation? Sometimes that helps you see all the variations that are already in the system.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Good point. I searched with the full LLC designation but didn't think to search without it. Let me try that approach.

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Andre Laurent

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This is exactly why I always do multiple search variations before filing anything. The portal search function is pretty basic.

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Had this exact same problem with a North Carolina filing last year. The issue is NC doesn't standardize how business names get entered into their system. What you need to do is pull the debtor's Articles of Incorporation directly from NC SOS business division and use EXACTLY that name format. Don't rely on what other lenders put on their UCCs.

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Carmen Ortiz

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That's what I thought I did, but maybe I grabbed the wrong document. Where exactly on the NC SOS site do I find the official Articles? There are so many different business record sections.

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Go to the Corporations Division search, not the UCC search. Look for "filed documents" under the business entity. The original Articles will show the exact legal name as filed.

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This is why the system is broken. Why should we have to jump through hoops just to get a name right? Other states have better verification systems.

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Mei Wong

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Before you file again, you might want to use something like Certana.ai's document verification tool. I had a similar situation where I kept getting rejections and wasted weeks going back and forth. Their system lets you upload your debtor's charter documents and your UCC-1 draft, and it automatically checks for name consistency issues. Found out I was using a slightly different name format than what was actually on file. Saved me from another rejection.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Never heard of that service. How does it work exactly? Do they have access to NC's database?

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Mei Wong

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They don't access state databases, but they cross-check your documents against each other to catch inconsistencies before you file. Upload your Charter and UCC-1 PDFs and it flags any name mismatches automatically.

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Interesting. Might be worth a shot since manual checking obviously isn't working for this situation.

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PixelWarrior

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NC has gotten stricter about this stuff in the past two years. Used to be more forgiving with punctuation and spacing. Now they're rejecting filings for stuff like extra spaces or missing commas. Super frustrating when you're under deadline pressure like you are.

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Carmen Ortiz

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That explains a lot. This is my first NC filing in about three years and I was expecting it to be like it used to be.

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Amara Adebayo

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Yeah they definitely tightened up their standards. I think they upgraded their system and now it's more automated rejection.

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PixelWarrior

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Exactly. The old system had more human review. Now it's just algorithm matching and if it's not perfect, automatic rejection.

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Quick question - when you search existing UCCs, are you seeing multiple active filings for the same debtor with different name formats? That could indicate other lenders made the same mistake and their filings might not be valid.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Yes! That's exactly what I'm seeing. There are like 4-5 different UCCs with slight name variations. Some have the comma in LLC, some don't. Some spell out "Limited Liability Company" fully.

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That's a red flag. Those other lenders might have perfection issues if their debtor names don't match the charter exactly. You don't want to be in that same boat.

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This is why I always recommend pulling a comprehensive UCC search report from a third party service before filing anything. Helps you see the patterns.

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Dylan Evans

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I work with NC filings regularly and here's what I've learned - if there's any doubt about the name, call the UCC division directly at (919) 814-5400. They can sometimes tell you what format they're expecting based on the rejections you've already received.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Didn't know you could actually call them about this. Worth a try since I'm running out of time.

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Dylan Evans

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They're usually pretty helpful if you explain the situation. Just have your rejection notices ready when you call.

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Sofia Gomez

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Good tip. Sometimes the human touch works better than trying to decode their automated system.

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StormChaser

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One more thing to check - make sure the debtor's business registration is actually current with NC. If they're administratively dissolved or not in good standing, that could be causing issues too. The north carolina secretary of state ucc search won't always flag that clearly.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Good point. I'll verify their business status while I'm pulling the Articles. Didn't think about that angle.

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StormChaser

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Yeah, I've seen UCC rejections that were really about business status issues but the error message just said "debtor name" problem.

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Dmitry Petrov

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NC's error messages are pretty vague. Could be name, could be status, could be formatting. Very annoying.

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Ava Williams

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This thread is making me nervous about my own NC filing I submitted yesterday. Now I'm second-guessing whether I got the debtor name right. Is there a way to check status before it gets rejected?

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Dylan Evans

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You can check the filing status online with your confirmation number. Usually takes 24-48 hours to process.

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Ava Williams

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Thanks. Checking now... still showing as "submitted" so hopefully that's good news.

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MidnightRider

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If it makes it past 48 hours without rejection, you're probably in good shape. NC usually bounces the bad ones pretty quickly.

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Miguel Castro

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Had a similar issue last month and ended up using Certana.ai after someone here recommended it. Uploaded my debtor's Articles and my UCC-1 draft and it immediately flagged that I was missing a period after "Inc" - something I never would have caught manually. Filed with the corrected name and it went through first try.

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Carmen Ortiz

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That's exactly the kind of detail that's killing me. A missing period seems so minor but apparently it matters to their system.

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Miguel Castro

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Right? The automated checking caught it instantly. Much faster than playing guessing games with the state portal.

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These filing systems are way too picky about punctuation. Makes the whole process unnecessarily stressful.

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Update us when you get it figured out! I've got a NC filing coming up next week and this thread is giving me good tips on what to watch out for.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Will do. Planning to call NC tomorrow morning and also double-check the Articles formatting. Hopefully one of these approaches works.

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Good luck! The Friday deadline is tight but you've got some solid strategies to try now.

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Mei Wong

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Definitely try the document verification approach too if the manual checking doesn't work out. Sometimes you need that automated cross-check to catch the subtle differences.

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