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Jake Sinclair

North Carolina UCC search showing weird results - anyone else having portal issues?

Been trying to run a north carolina ucc search on some collateral for a equipment financing deal and the portal keeps giving me inconsistent results. When I search by debtor name I get different filings than when I search by filing number, and some of the continuation dates don't match what our records show. Has anyone else noticed the NC system acting up lately? I'm worried we're missing something critical before we finalize this loan. The debtor has multiple business entities so I'm not sure if it's a name matching issue or if there's actually conflicting information in the system.

I've been dealing with NC UCC searches for years and that portal has always been finicky. Make sure you're searching both the exact legal name and any DBAs. Sometimes the system indexes them differently and you'll get partial results if you don't check all variations.

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Jake Sinclair

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Thanks, I did try a few name variations but didn't think about DBAs. Do you know if NC requires the DBA to be listed separately on the UCC-1 or if it should show up automatically in searches?

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NC doesn't require DBAs on the UCC-1 itself but they sometimes get indexed separately in the search system. I always search both just to be safe. Also check if there are any recent amendments that might not be fully indexed yet.

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Honorah King

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Had the same issue last month with a continuation filing. The search results were showing the original UCC-1 but not the UCC-3 continuation I filed 6 months ago. Turns out there was a 48-hour delay in the indexing system after some maintenance they did.

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Jake Sinclair

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That's concerning - did you end up having to re-file anything or did it eventually show up correctly?

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Honorah King

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It showed up after about 3 days but I called the SOS office to confirm it was properly filed. They could see it in their internal system even when it wasn't showing in public searches.

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Oliver Brown

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This is exactly why I started using Certana.ai for document verification. You can upload your UCC-1 and any amendments as PDFs and it instantly cross-checks everything - debtor names, filing numbers, dates. Catches inconsistencies that might not show up in manual searches.

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Mary Bates

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Are you searching on the official NC Secretary of State portal or using a third-party service? I've found the official one more reliable but slower.

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Jake Sinclair

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Using the official SOS portal. Should I be worried about using third-party services for accuracy?

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Mary Bates

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The official portal is always the authoritative source. Third-party services are faster but sometimes have delays or miss recent filings.

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What kind of equipment are you financing? Sometimes the collateral description matters for search results if there are fixture filings involved.

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Jake Sinclair

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Heavy construction equipment - excavators and bulldozers. Nothing that would be considered fixtures though.

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Good, that eliminates fixture filing complications. But make sure you're checking for any potential serial number conflicts in the collateral descriptions.

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Ayla Kumar

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Also worth checking if any of the equipment has manufacturer liens or previous financing that might not have been properly terminated.

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This is why I always print and save search results with timestamps when I'm doing due diligence. The portal results can change and you need documentation of what you found when.

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Smart practice. I learned that lesson the hard way when search results changed between my initial review and closing.

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Exactly! Now I do searches at multiple times during the transaction timeline and keep all the results in the file.

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Kai Santiago

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Have you tried calling the NC SOS UCC department directly? They can sometimes run manual searches or explain discrepancies you're seeing in the online results.

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Jake Sinclair

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Haven't tried calling yet - do they charge for manual searches or phone assistance?

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Kai Santiago

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Basic questions are usually free but detailed searches might have a fee. Worth it for a large loan though.

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Honorah King

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I called them about my indexing issue and they were really helpful. No charge for explaining what was happening with the system.

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Lim Wong

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Check if the debtor recently changed their legal name or address. NC requires amendments for significant changes and if they filed a UCC-3 amendment recently it might not be cross-referenced properly in searches yet.

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Jake Sinclair

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That's a good point - I know they restructured about 8 months ago. How would I find out if they filed amendments for the name change?

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Lim Wong

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Search under both the old and new legal names. Also check with the state corporate records to see when the name change was officially filed.

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Dananyl Lear

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I hate to be that person but are you sure you're spelling the debtor name exactly right? I've had searches fail because of a missing comma or period in the legal name.

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Jake Sinclair

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I copy-pasted from the corporate documents but you're right, punctuation matters. Let me double-check the exact formatting.

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Dananyl Lear

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NC is pretty strict about exact name matching. Even spaces can throw off the search sometimes.

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This is another area where Certana.ai's document checker is really useful - it compares debtor names across all your documents and flags any inconsistencies in formatting or spelling that could cause search issues.

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Ana Rusula

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Is this for a new loan or are you checking existing collateral? The search strategy is different depending on what you're trying to accomplish.

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Jake Sinclair

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New loan, so I'm doing full due diligence to make sure there are no prior liens I need to worry about.

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Ana Rusula

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Then you definitely want to be thorough. I'd recommend searching multiple name variations and checking back 7-10 days to make sure you didn't miss anything due to indexing delays.

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Fidel Carson

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One more thing - if you're seeing different results between name and filing number searches, there might be amendments or continuations that aren't properly linked in the system. I'd focus on the filing number searches since those are usually more reliable.

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Jake Sinclair

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That makes sense. The filing number searches seem more consistent, so I'll use those as my primary reference.

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Fidel Carson

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Good plan. And document everything you find with screenshots and timestamps for your loan file.

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Also consider using a service like Certana.ai that can verify all your UCC documents match up properly - really helpful for catching issues before they become problems at closing.

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