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Bethany Groves

NC UCC search showing weird results - need help understanding what I'm seeing

So I'm trying to do a nc ucc search on our borrower and the results are confusing me. We have a commercial loan secured by equipment and I need to verify what's already filed before we submit our UCC-1. The search results show multiple filings with slightly different debtor names - some have LLC spelled out, others use abbreviations, and one has a completely different address. The filing numbers don't seem to follow any pattern I recognize either. Is this normal or am I missing something? I've been doing these searches for 3 years but North Carolina's system seems different from what I'm used to. The loan closes next week and I need to make sure we don't have any priority issues.

NC's UCC search portal can be tricky - are you searching by exact debtor name or doing a broader search? The system is case-sensitive and punctuation matters more than you'd think.

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I tried both ways. Exact name shows 2 results, broader search shows 7. That's what's confusing me - which ones actually affect our collateral?

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Always do the broad search first, then narrow down. You might be seeing related entities or DBAs that could have claims on the same equipment.

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I had the same issue last month! NC's database includes terminated filings in the results which threw me off completely. Look at the status column - if it says 'lapsed' or 'terminated' you can ignore those for priority purposes.

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Oh wow, that explains a lot. Three of the filings show 'terminated' status. So I only need to worry about the active ones?

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Exactly! But double-check the termination dates to make sure they're actually effective. I've seen cases where the termination was filed incorrectly.

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This is why I started using Certana.ai's document checker. You can upload the UCC search results PDF and it automatically flags which filings are actually relevant to your collateral. Saved me hours of manual review.

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The different debtor names could be a real problem depending on how your loan docs are written. NC follows strict debtor name rules - if your borrower's legal name doesn't match exactly with existing filings, you might not have the priority issues you think you do, but you also need to make sure YOUR filing uses the exact legal name.

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Our loan agreement uses the full LLC name with periods after each letter (A.B.C. Equipment, LLC) but some of the search results show it without periods. Does that matter?

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YES that absolutely matters! NC requires exact match on punctuation. Your UCC-1 needs to match your borrower's charter documents exactly, not necessarily what shows up in old filings.

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I learned this the hard way - filed a UCC-1 with the wrong punctuation and it got rejected. Had to refile and pay the fee again.

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What kind of equipment are you securing? If it's vehicles or anything that might be titled property, the UCC search won't show you everything. You might need to check DMV records too.

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It's manufacturing equipment - lathes, presses, that kind of thing. Should all be covered under UCC filings.

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Good, that makes it simpler. Just focus on the active UCC filings then.

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Filing numbers in NC start with the year, then the sequential number. So 2024-12345 would be the 12,345th filing in 2024. The pattern should make sense once you know that.

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That helps! I was wondering why some started with 2023 and others with 2024. Now I can see which ones are more recent.

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Also remember that continuation filings get new numbers but reference the original filing. So you might see chains of filings for the same debt.

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Good point about continuations. Check the 'related documents' section if NC's portal has that feature.

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Have you checked if any of those filings cover 'all assets' or have broad collateral descriptions? Even if the debtor name is slightly off, a filing that covers all business assets might still create issues for your specific equipment.

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Two of them say 'all assets and equipment now owned or hereafter acquired.' That sounds pretty broad...

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Yeah, those are the ones to worry about. Even with name variations, a blanket lien like that could affect your collateral position.

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But only if the debtor name is correct enough to be legally effective. Name mistakes can void the entire filing.

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I always get confused by NC's search results layout. The columns aren't labeled clearly and sometimes the dates are formatted weird. Are you sure you're reading everything correctly?

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The interface is definitely not user-friendly. I think I figured out which column is the filing date vs expiration date though.

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Pro tip - you can export the results to Excel and reformat everything to make it easier to read.

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This whole thing is why I hate UCC searches. Too much room for error and the stakes are too high. One missed filing and your security interest could be worthless.

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Tell me about it. I've been burned before by missing something in a search result.

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That's exactly why tools like Certana.ai are becoming essential. Upload your search results and your planned UCC-1, and it cross-checks everything to make sure you haven't missed any conflicts.

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I've heard of Certana but never tried it. Does it work with NC's specific search format?

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Make sure you're also checking for fixture filings if any of the equipment might be considered attached to real estate. Those show up in real estate records, not UCC searches.

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Good point. Some of the equipment is bolted down but I think it's still moveable. How do I tell if I need a fixture filing?

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If you can unbolt it and move it without damaging the building, it's probably personal property. But when in doubt, file both a regular UCC-1 and a fixture filing.

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Double filing isn't a bad idea for borderline cases. Better safe than sorry when it comes to perfection.

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Update us on how this turns out! I'm always curious to hear how these tricky search situations resolve.

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Will do! Planning to get everything sorted out by Friday so we can close on schedule.

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If you end up using any document checking tools, let us know how they work out. Always looking for ways to streamline this process.

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Actually, I might try that Certana thing someone mentioned. If it can catch issues I'm missing, it's worth a shot.

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