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Olivia Van-Cleve

Missouri UCC search showing weird results - debtor name variations causing issues

I'm running into something strange with Missouri UCC searches and hoping someone can help. We're doing due diligence on a acquisition target and when I search their exact legal name in the Missouri SOS database, I get completely different results depending on how I format it. The company is 'Midwest Manufacturing Solutions LLC' but if I search 'Midwest Manufacturing Solutions, LLC' (with the comma) or 'Midwest Mfg Solutions LLC' I get totally different UCC filings showing up. Some show active liens, others don't. This is making it impossible to get a clear picture of what's actually filed against them. Has anyone dealt with Missouri UCC search quirks like this? I'm worried we're missing critical filings because of name variations.

Mason Kaczka

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Missouri's search logic is notoriously finicky with entity names. The database doesn't handle punctuation and abbreviations consistently. You need to run multiple searches with every possible variation - with/without commas, with/without LLC designations, abbreviated versions, etc. It's tedious but necessary for complete due diligence.

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That's what I was afraid of. Do you have a systematic approach for covering all the variations? This target has had several name changes over the years too.

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Mason Kaczka

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Start with the exact name from their articles of incorporation, then try removing all punctuation, then try common abbreviations like Mfg, Co, Corp, etc. For name changes, you'll need to search historical names too.

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Sophia Russo

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I've been doing Missouri UCC searches for 15 years and this is the biggest pain point. What makes it worse is that filers often use shortened versions of company names on UCC-1 forms, so you might have liens filed under 'Midwest Mfg' when the legal name is 'Midwest Manufacturing Solutions LLC'. The search algorithm doesn't catch these variations.

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Evelyn Xu

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This is exactly why I switched to using Certana.ai's document verification tool. You can upload the target company's charter documents and any UCC filings you find, and it automatically flags name inconsistencies and suggests additional search terms you might have missed. Saved me hours on my last deal.

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That sounds helpful - does it work specifically with Missouri's database quirks?

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Evelyn Xu

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It works with any state's filings. You just upload PDFs of what you've found and it cross-references everything to identify gaps or inconsistencies in debtor names across documents.

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Dominic Green

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ugh Missouri is THE WORST for this stuff. I once missed a $2M lien because it was filed under an abbreviation that didn't show up in my initial search. Now I'm paranoid and do like 20 different search variations for every target.

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Hannah Flores

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What abbreviation did you miss? Trying to build my own checklist of common variations.

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Dominic Green

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The company was 'Advanced Technology Systems Incorporated' but the lien was filed under 'Advanced Tech Sys Inc' - totally different search result. Cost us big time in negotiations.

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Have you tried using wildcard searches? Missouri allows partial matching with asterisks. So for 'Midwest Manufacturing Solutions LLC' you could try 'Midwest*Manufacturing*' or 'Midwest*Mfg*' to catch variations.

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I didn't know Missouri supported wildcards! That could help a lot. Any specific syntax tips?

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Use asterisks for multiple characters, but be careful not to make it too broad or you'll get hundreds of irrelevant results. 'Midwest*Solutions*' would catch most variations of your target.

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Wildcards help but they're not perfect. I still find manual variations work better for thorough due diligence.

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Grace Lee

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This is a systemic problem with UCC searches nationwide, not just Missouri. The Uniform Commercial Code assumes perfect debtor name matching but reality is messy. I always recommend running searches with at least 5-7 name variations minimum.

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What's your typical list of variations? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything obvious.

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Grace Lee

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Exact legal name, name without punctuation, common abbreviations, name without entity designation, historical names, and any DBAs. Then I cross-check everything for consistency.

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Mia Roberts

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Pro tip: always check the SOS business entity database first to see all registered name variations and historical names. Then use those as your UCC search terms. Missouri keeps good records of name changes and that can save you from missing old filings.

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The Boss

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Good point about historical names. I've seen active UCC filings still under old company names that never got amended.

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Mia Roberts

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Exactly. And those old filings are still legally valid even if the company changed names, unless the secured party filed an amendment.

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Another thing to watch for in Missouri - some counties have their own UCC databases for fixtures and that adds another layer of complexity. If your target owns real estate, make sure to check county-level filings too.

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They do own manufacturing facilities. Which counties have separate databases?

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St. Louis County and Jackson County both have their own systems. Check with the recorder of deeds in any county where they own property.

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I ran into this exact issue last month. What finally worked was using a combination of the state database and a third-party service that aggregates UCC data. The third-party service caught variations that the state search missed.

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Which third-party service did you use?

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I used Certana.ai's verification tool. It's not a search service but it helped me validate that all the UCC documents I found were consistent and flagged where there might be missing filings based on name variations.

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Jasmine Quinn

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How does that work exactly? Does it integrate with Missouri's database?

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You upload PDFs of documents you've found and it cross-checks everything for consistency. It flagged that some of my UCC-1s had slight debtor name variations that could indicate I was missing related filings.

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Oscar Murphy

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This is why I hate Missouri deals. Their UCC search is so unreliable compared to states like Delaware or New York. You basically have to become a detective to make sure you're not missing anything.

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Nora Bennett

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At least Missouri has online search. Some states still require written requests for comprehensive searches.

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Oscar Murphy

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True, but I'd rather have a reliable written search than an unreliable online one that gives false confidence.

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Ryan Andre

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Here's what I do for Missouri UCC searches: 1) Search exact legal name 2) Remove all punctuation 3) Try common abbreviations 4) Search without entity type 5) Check historical names 6) Use wildcard variations 7) Cross-reference with business registration database. It's tedious but catches everything.

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This is super helpful. How do you organize all the results to make sure you're not double-counting filings?

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Ryan Andre

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I create a spreadsheet with filing numbers, dates, and secured parties. Then I sort by filing number to eliminate duplicates. The key is the unique filing number - same filing can show up under different name searches.

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Lauren Zeb

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That's a solid system. I also note which search term found each filing so I can track which variations are most productive.

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