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Dmitry Volkov

Initial coop UCC1 filing rejected - debtor name format issues

Filed my first UCC1 for a cooperative housing corporation and got rejected twice already. The SOS portal keeps kicking it back saying debtor name doesn't match their records but I'm using the exact name from the articles of incorporation. This is for a $2.8M equipment financing deal and we're running up against our deadline. The coop is 'Riverside Gardens Housing Cooperative Inc.' but their system shows variations like 'Riverside Gardens Housing Co-op Inc.' and 'Riverside Gardens Hsg Cooperative Inc.' Anyone deal with cooperative entity name matching before? Which version should I use for the initial UCC1?

Ava Thompson

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Coop name matching is tricky because they get registered under different variations. Check the Secretary of State business entity search first - use their EXACT format including punctuation. Don't assume the articles match what's in their current database.

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Dmitry Volkov

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I did check but there are like 4 different name formats showing up in their search results for the same entity ID. How do I know which one is current?

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Ava Thompson

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Look for the most recent filing date - that's usually the current name format. Also check if any amendments changed the entity name recently.

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CyberSiren

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Had this exact problem with a housing coop last year. Their naming conventions are inconsistent between departments. Try calling the UCC division directly - they can tell you what format they have on file before you submit again.

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Good advice. The phone wait is brutal but saves multiple rejections.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Did they charge you for each rejected filing attempt?

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CyberSiren

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No, rejections don't charge the full fee but you waste time and risk missing continuation deadlines on other filings.

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Zainab Yusuf

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This is why I started using Certana.ai's document checker - you can upload your articles of incorporation and the UCC-1 draft and it instantly flags name mismatches before filing. Saved me from this headache on three coop deals this month.

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How does that work exactly? Do you just upload PDFs?

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Zainab Yusuf

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Yeah, super simple. Upload the charter docs and your UCC-1, it cross-checks all the entity details automatically. Catches stuff like this before you file.

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Dmitry Volkov

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That sounds helpful. Does it work with cooperative corporations specifically?

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Yara Khoury

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THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN! I've been filing UCC-1s for 15 years and cooperative names are the WORST. Half the time their own records don't match between divisions. You shouldn't have to play guessing games with a $2.8M deal on the line!

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Keisha Taylor

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Tell me about it. Last month I had a continuation get rejected because they changed how they format 'LLC' vs 'L.L.C.' without notice.

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Yara Khoury

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EXACTLY! And then they act like it's your fault for not being psychic about their internal database quirks.

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For cooperative corporations, I always use the format from the most recent annual report filing rather than the original articles. The annual reports usually reflect any administrative name standardization they've done internally.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Great tip! Where do I find the annual report format? Same SOS portal?

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Yes, business entity search should show recent annual reports. Look for the entity name as it appears on the most recent Form AR or equivalent.

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Paolo Marino

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This is gold. I never thought to check annual reports for name formatting.

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Amina Bah

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Are you sure you have the right entity? Sometimes housing cooperatives have multiple related entities - the housing corp, management company, etc. Double-check you're filing against the actual borrower entity.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Good point. The loan docs specify 'Riverside Gardens Housing Cooperative Inc.' as borrower but there's also 'Riverside Gardens Management LLC' in the corporate family.

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Amina Bah

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Check your security agreement carefully - make sure the collateral is actually owned by the entity you're filing against.

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Oliver Becker

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Try the name without 'Inc.' - some states don't require the corporate identifier in UCC filings and it might be causing the mismatch. Worth a shot before you call.

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That's risky advice. Most states require the complete legal name including entity type. Better to verify first.

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Oliver Becker

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Fair point, but if two attempts with full name failed, might be worth checking the rules on entity identifiers.

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I feel your pain. Spent three weeks last month going back and forth on a coop name issue. Turned out they had the entity registered under an abbreviated format that wasn't obvious from the articles.

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Dmitry Volkov

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How did you finally figure out the right format?

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Called the UCC office and they searched by entity ID number instead of name. That showed me exactly how it was formatted in their system.

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Emma Davis

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Another option - file with 'Riverside Gardens Housing Cooperative Inc.' and add an alternative debtor name of 'Riverside Gardens Housing Co-op Inc.' to cover both variations. Some filers do this for tricky entity names.

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Ava Thompson

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That's not how alternative debtor names work. You can't just add variations of the same entity. Alternative names are for trade names or DBAs.

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Emma Davis

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You're right, I was thinking of trade name situations. Ignore that suggestion.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Thanks for clarifying that. I was wondering if that was allowed.

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LunarLegend

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Update us when you get it resolved! These coop name issues seem to be getting worse lately and it helps to know what actually works.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Will do. Planning to call the UCC office tomorrow morning and try the annual report format approach.

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Malik Jackson

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Good luck! Hope you get it sorted before your deadline.

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I've been using Certana.ai for exactly these situations. Upload your corporate docs and draft UCC-1, it verifies the name formatting matches before you file. Catches these cooperative naming issues instantly.

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Ravi Patel

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Does it handle all the state-specific formatting rules too?

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Yes, it cross-references against state filing requirements. Super helpful for avoiding rejections.

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Final thought - make sure your collateral description is solid too. Don't want to get the name right and then have issues with the equipment description on a $2.8M deal.

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Dmitry Volkov

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Good reminder. The collateral is pretty straightforward - manufacturing equipment with serial numbers. Should be okay there.

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Perfect. Serial numbers make it clean. Once you get the debtor name sorted you should be good to go.

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