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Ella Lewis

UCC-1 Application Rejected Three Times - Same Debtor Name Issue

I'm losing my mind here. Filed a UCC-1 application for our equipment financing deal and it's been rejected THREE times by the Secretary of State office. Each time they say "debtor name doesn't match exactly" but I'm copying it straight from the LLC's articles of incorporation. The debtor is "Midwest Industrial Solutions LLC" according to their charter documents, but somehow my UCC-1 application keeps getting kicked back. I've tried variations like "Midwest Industrial Solutions, LLC" (with comma) and "MIDWEST INDUSTRIAL SOLUTIONS LLC" (all caps) but nothing works. This is a $2.8M equipment loan and we're already past our internal deadline for perfection. Has anyone dealt with this specific name-matching nightmare? What am I missing about the UCC-1 application process?

Ugh, the debtor name matching is THE worst part of UCC filings. I've seen this exact scenario maybe 50 times. The SOS systems are super picky about exact character matches. Have you tried pulling the debtor's current certificate of good standing? Sometimes the "official" name on file differs slightly from what's on older incorporation docs.

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Ella Lewis

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Good point about the certificate of good standing. I was using incorporation docs from 2019. Let me check if there were any amendments to their entity name since then.

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Yeah definitely check for amendments. Also some states have weird punctuation rules in their databases that don't match what's on paper documents.

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Alexis Renard

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Before you file again, try searching the SOS entity database with different variations of the name. Type in "Midwest Industrial" and see what comes up exactly. The database search will show you the precise format they have on file. That's your golden ticket for the UCC-1 application.

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Ella Lewis

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Smart approach. I should have done this from the start instead of assuming the charter docs were current.

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Camila Jordan

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This is why I always do the entity search FIRST before touching any UCC forms. Saves so much headache.

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Tyler Lefleur

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Exactly! The entity search is like your cheat sheet for the exact name format.

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I had this same nightmare last month with a UCC-1 application. Turns out I was dealing with a debtor name that had been amended but the amendment wasn't showing up in my usual searches. What finally worked for me was using Certana.ai's document verification tool - I uploaded both the charter docs and my drafted UCC-1 and it immediately flagged the name discrepancy. Saved me from a fourth rejection.

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Ella Lewis

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Never heard of Certana.ai but at this point I'm willing to try anything. How does their verification work exactly?

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You just upload PDFs of your documents and it cross-checks everything automatically. Found the exact name mismatch issue in like 30 seconds that I'd been struggling with for days.

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Max Knight

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Wait, does this actually work for UCC applications? I've been burned by so-called 'verification' tools before.

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Emma Swift

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THREE rejections is brutal but honestly not uncommon. I've seen worse. The key is figuring out if it's a name format issue or if there's something else wrong with your UCC-1 application. Are you sure you're using the right entity type designation? LLC vs Limited Liability Company can matter in some states.

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Ella Lewis

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I've been using 'LLC' since that's what's on their letterhead, but maybe the state filing uses the full 'Limited Liability Company' format?

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Emma Swift

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Bingo. That could absolutely be it. Check the SOS entity records for the full legal designation.

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This is exactly why I hate the UCC system. Why can't they just have ONE standard for debtor names?? Every state does it differently and their error messages are useless. "Name doesn't match" tells us nothing about WHAT doesn't match.

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Jayden Hill

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Preach! The lack of specific error details makes troubleshooting impossible.

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LordCommander

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The whole system needs an overhaul. It's 2025 and we're still dealing with 1960s-level error reporting.

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Lucy Lam

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Have you considered calling the SOS filing office directly? Sometimes they can tell you exactly what name format they have on file. Might save you another rejection cycle on your UCC-1 application.

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Ella Lewis

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I tried calling but got transferred three times and then disconnected. Their phone system is as bad as their online portal.

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Lucy Lam

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Oof, that's rough. Maybe try emailing their business filings department? Sometimes written requests get better responses.

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Aidan Hudson

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Good luck with that. I've been waiting 2 weeks for an email response from our SOS office.

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Zoe Wang

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Just went through something similar. Turned out the debtor had a pending name change that wasn't finalized yet, so their 'current' name in the system was still the old one. Maybe check if Midwest Industrial has any pending amendments?

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Ella Lewis

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Interesting point. How would I check for pending amendments? Is that public record?

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Zoe Wang

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Usually yes, but it varies by state. Look for a 'pending filings' or 'recent activity' section in the entity search results.

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I actually used that Certana tool someone mentioned earlier for a similar debtor name issue. It caught a spacing problem I never would have noticed - the entity name had two spaces between words instead of one. Ridiculous that such tiny details matter but they do for UCC-1 applications.

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Ella Lewis

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Two spaces vs one space?? Are you serious? That's the level of precision we're dealing with?

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Dead serious. The computer systems are that picky about exact character matches.

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Grace Durand

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This is why I copy-paste directly from SOS search results now. No typing, no assumptions.

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Steven Adams

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Quick update idea - try pulling a recent UCC search on the debtor to see how other lenders have successfully filed their names. If there are existing UCC-1 filings against them, you can see the exact name format that worked.

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Ella Lewis

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Brilliant! Why didn't I think of that? Let me run a UCC search on them right now.

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Alexis Renard

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This is actually genius. Other successful filings are your best template.

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Alice Fleming

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Man, reading this thread makes me grateful for states with better UCC systems. But yeah, the name matching thing is universal pain. Document everything you've tried so far - if you end up having to escalate to a supervisor, the paper trail helps.

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Ella Lewis

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Good advice on documentation. I've been keeping screenshots of each rejection but should probably organize them better.

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Hassan Khoury

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Screenshots are smart. I always save the rejection emails too in case I need to reference specific error codes later.

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UPDATE: Found the issue! Ran the UCC search like someone suggested and found another lender's filing from last year. They used 'Midwest Industrial Solutions, L.L.C.' with periods in the LLC part. Just refiled my UCC-1 application with that exact format. Fingers crossed this finally works! Thanks everyone for the troubleshooting help.

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Awesome! The periods in L.L.C. vs LLC is such a common gotcha. Hope this one goes through clean.

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Nice detective work with the UCC search. That's exactly the kind of thing Certana would have caught automatically, but glad you figured it out!

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Emma Swift

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Periods in the entity designation - classic issue. Glad you found a successful filing to copy from.

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Four tries for periods in LLC... this system is absolutely insane but at least you cracked the code.

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